Acting ability and Socionics information elements

[matilda]

is the ability to act (theater,film,etc) in any way related to these shapes?

[Trevor]

The correlation is at best marginal.

[krieger]

Probably F > T. ENFjs are known for being great actors in particular.

The best actors are those that are properly fit to their role, though, so you need another type for every type of character you want to portray.

[matilda]

hows about when it comes to flexibility?

[Beautiful sky]

I believe the most expressive actors are ESFp's and ESFj's and usually T types don't make very good actors at all with the exception of Johnny Depp

[silverchris9]

Naturalistic acting as practiced generally throughout the country is not type related. Fe is the function that is the most naturally associated with communicating one's emotions in such a way as to communicate others' emotions, but that actually has more in common with presentational acting than any other kind.

[Timeless]

is the ability to act (theater,film,etc) in any way related to these shapes?

The only relation I see to those shapes and acting is this:



:wink:

[Trevor]

..and usually T types don't make very good actors at all with the exception of Johnny Depp

Bullshit. The Hollywood is full of great (S)T actors.

[Beautiful sky]

Bullshit. The Hollywood is full of great (S)T actors.

That was a personal bias...I do like SF actors/actresses the best though

[matilda]

Naturalistic acting as practiced generally throughout the country is not type related. Fe is the function that is the most naturally associated with communicating one's emotions in such a way as to communicate others' emotions, but that actually has more in common with presentational acting than any other kind.

what do you mean by

Naturalistic acting

and how does it differ from

presentational acting

[matilda]

The only relation I see to those shapes and acting is this:



:wink:

[FDG]

The best actors are those that are properly fit to their role, though, so you need another type for every type of character you want to portray.

Yeah, that's the problem.

[marooned]

I think it's type-related, not in the sense that only certain types will be successful at acting (as I don't think that's true for a myriad different reasons that I don't feel like typing out), but in the sense that the areas of it particular people struggle with or are naturally good at, etc. will probably reflect their type.

[Cone]

The best actors are those that are properly fit to their role, though, so you need another type for every type of character you want to portray.

Yes, I agree, considering also that good acting goes far beyond simply parroting how you're supposed to portray the character. I know that in movies at least, the actors themselves bring quite a lot to the portrayal of their roles, other than what the director initially has in mind.

Probably F > T. ENFjs are known for being great actors in particular.

Um, where does it say that "ENFjs are known for being great actors"?

In lieu of the above, I don't see how the F > T thing really holds. I mean, yes, for example is about emotional expression, but not all acting roles are about emotional expression.

However, perhaps F types (or -valuers) would be better at theater acting, which is apparently more lax about over-exaggerated expression (imo, and apparently necessary because of the physical distance of the audience) than movie acting.

[silverchris9]

Naturalistic acting is all the acting that you see on TV, film, theater, nowadays. It is based in representing how regular people are, trying to get as close as possible to regular interactions that you would have with your friends.

Presentational acting is an older style (before Stanislavski) where there was less focus on naturalism and more focus on emoting and making one's emotions as broad and strong and forceful as possible. It's like playing emotions rather than playing intentions/motivations/objectives/all that bullshit. This, I think, has more of a bias towards Fe types.

[DirectorAbbie]

The best actor I know is an EIE. ILEs also make great actors, followed by SLEs. I don't know an ESE who acts, but I think they'd be good, too. IEEs aren't bad at it. I'm pretty good at it.

[jughead]

Oh I don't know ....the nickname for EIE's only happens to be "the actor" in many texts.
No doubt any type can be an actor, especially when characters fit their type

Second:Fe types have the greatest command and control over their emotions and thus can be counted on to more accurately express the emotional context/content.

[DirectorAbbie]

No doubt any type can be an actor, especially when characters fit their type

Precisely. I believe casting is the most important part of a play. If one type were to play all the parts of an unknown play, I'd choose an EIE. But I know an ILI who has done his characters very well.

[jewels]

I don't think it's type related...I was always good at it and got leads w/o even trying very hard. I had F friends who were horrible at it. Just like singing or something, not everyone is good at it. So I don't think it's type related.