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    Default From these points, please can you help with this type :)

    * Is friendly, and polite to all. But, much less people see this cheeky, naughty side.
    * Certaintly would never call anybody names such as ugly, or criticise anyone in anyway (at least intentionally)
    * Is incredibly loyal. Yet, unfortunately, can never decide whether a relationship has run it's course, and as a consequence waits for the other person to terminate it or run it's natural course.
    * Is incredibly understanding towards people. Understands themselves very well, and would rarely judge people and their behaviour.
    * Likes to learn from other people's stories, and life events.
    * Lives to understand people, the world. How it works, and how to get on.
    * Socialises, but often this is largely because it should be done (they want to keep good relations with people), rather than because it would be fun!
    * Makes friends with people fairly easily, but often feels distanced from many, as if they'll never know their true self.
    * Reliable
    * Reacts accordingly to understanding of how people are feeling.
    * Longs to people with people their 'sort', to whom they can be themselves, all cheeky and fun, rather than suppressed.
    * Tends not to give up on tasks, or people. But does occassionally.
    * And overall, so fiercely loyal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllaC View Post
    * Is friendly, and polite to all. But, much less people see this cheeky, naughty side.
    * Certaintly would never call anybody names such as ugly, or criticise anyone in anyway (at least intentionally)
    * Is incredibly loyal. Yet, unfortunately, can never decide whether a relationship has run it's course, and as a consequence waits for the other person to terminate it or run it's natural course.
    * Is incredibly understanding towards people. Understands themselves very well, and would rarely judge people and their behaviour.
    * Likes to learn from other people's stories, and life events.
    * Lives to understand people, the world. How it works, and how to get on.
    * Socialises, but often this is largely because it should be done (they want to keep good relations with people), rather than because it would be fun!
    * Makes friends with people fairly easily, but often feels distanced from many, as if they'll never know their true self.
    * Reliable
    * Reacts accordingly to understanding of how people are feeling.
    * Longs to people with people their 'sort', to whom they can be themselves, all cheeky and fun, rather than suppressed.
    * Tends not to give up on tasks, or people. But does occassionally.
    * And overall, so fiercely loyal.
    Is it you?
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    maybe SEI or IEE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Is it you?
    Might be What type would you say that is? I had some new observations, so fancied some retyping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllaC View Post
    Might be What type would you say that is? I had some new observations, so fancied some retyping.
    I could have written this profile. My Ti-ENTp self-typing is widely accepted in the Socionics community. Nevertheless, the user Pinnocchio types me as IEE.
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    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

    To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    I could have written this profile. My Ti-ENTp self-typing is widely accepted in the Socionics community. Nevertheless, the user Pinnocchio types me as IEE.
    Ah that's cool, someone can relate to it! Ah, I'm torn between ILE, and IEE (or perhaps anything else). I see some ILE's on this form, and think I don't come across like them... maybe more softer, but maybe that's because it's been suppressed and I care about what people think
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllaC View Post
    Ah that's cool, someone can relate to it! Ah, I'm torn between ILE, and IEE (or perhaps anything else). I see some ILE's on this form, and think I don't come across like them... maybe more softer, but maybe that's because it's been suppressed and I care about what people think
    FMPOV, some ILEs never evolve and become old, naive and stupid. Fi as polr doesn't mean, IMO, that you have to mess with everybody in your way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    FMPOV, some ILEs never evolve and become old, naive and stupid. Fi as polr doesn't mean, IMO, that you have to mess with everybody in your way.
    Yes, that seems accurate
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    Quote Originally Posted by he died with a felafel View Post
    the loyalty part says Fi for sure
    Sounds like ENFp; I would love Vi

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    could be IEI. Hidden agenda=to understand. and the whole "makes friends easily but feels distanced like they'll never know true self", etc. there are other things too but I think enough to at least consider IEI.
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    * Is incredibly loyal. Yet, unfortunately, can never decide whether a relationship has run it's course, and as a consequence waits for the other person to terminate it or run it's natural course.
    * Is incredibly understanding towards people. Understands themselves very well, and would rarely judge people and their behaviour.
    This sounds like devalued Fi.
    An Fi ego type would be aware of the exact strength of a relationship. And an Fi ego extrovert would probably be the first to take initiative in terminating it, if it has run its course.

    Finally, Fi egos constantly judge other people based on their behavior. Although they may be merciful and even understanding, many will tend to put some distance between themselves and a potentially offending person, relationship wise.

    Any type could be extremely loyal though.

    Your friend seems Alpha.
    It was in the reign of George III that the aforesaid personages lived and quarrelled; good or bad, handsome or ugly, rich or poor, they are all equal now.

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    SEI then.
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    Thank you for your responses... perhaps a few more points are needed to help clarify?

    * Hopes of essentially having a career, which certaintly opts to heal social problems. Would like to be a bit of one of those unique, a bit different person that brings light and help to social problems.
    * Not inclined to chat too much about life. Although, on some things quite open and honest, but there's a noticable difference to other females in sense of gossiping.
    * Enjoys listening to people's life stories. This adds to their bank of understanding (enables to formulate / prove theories).
    ENTp... love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllaC View Post
    Thank you for your responses... perhaps a few more points are needed to help clarify?

    * Hopes of essentially having a career, which certaintly opts to heal social problems. Would like to be a bit of one of those unique, a bit different person that brings light and help to social problems.
    * Not inclined to chat too much about life. Although, on some things quite open and honest, but there's a noticable difference to other females in sense of gossiping.
    * Enjoys listening to people's life stories. This adds to their bank of understanding (enables to formulate / prove theories).
    Still sounds like ENFp

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    Thank you for all your points.

    In fairness, the ILE type has fitted (to a point). But, as you've all picked up upon, there is perhaps some differences I feel, between me and other ILEs, or I'd say I just don't have the same ... I don't know, something which say other ENTp's, ESTj's, ESTp's, INTp's, ENTj's etc. all have for example. I am much more softer I'd say, and fairly moral and very strictly into fairness. I'm not harsh, but rather understanding (I hope). But at the same time, I'm not governed by emotions: I manage them very well, and perhaps rather than having a great depth of feeling, I know what's right and what's wrong, and how to help people look at their lives and issues from different perspectives to gain something positive from the experiences.

    I am also not a debator. Ha, debate! I struggle to process all the sides of an argument and so much vast information, so could probably never follow one set side and debate it ... it makes me uncomfortable. Although that said, I do enjoy saying to those that know me well, a very ridiculous answer to things in a serious voice, in which I hope they process it in their heads to realise that I've just said the opposite to the answer they'd expect
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