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    Default Lauryn Hill

    Famous and amazing rapper/singer/songwriter/genius, gets big with the Fugees, breaks up with Wyclef, the group breaks up, massive commercial, critical, and artistic success with The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill (one of the greatest albums of the 90s, period), goes somewhat crazy (perhaps due to the pressures of fame), becomes super-reclusive (and extremely weird), married to one of Bob Marley's kids... thoughts? Also, E-type thoughts?













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    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

    Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...

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    Hmmm I'd say Beta and maybe introvert.
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    She's the best.

    Db [or C#] major (Virgo):



    I could be wrong, yet I think she's ENFj. Based on my experience of her music and lyrics, her ethics seems dominant (is the most prominent function) as opposed to creative (secondary), and it's extraverted. Thus I believe she's ENFj (EIE). I don't really have an opinion on subtype though. At least not yet. Then again I could be completely wrong about her being ENFj. She's definitely an ethical type in my opinion. And my ex-boyfriend thought she V.I.'d as an ESFj (although I think he primarily used the socionics.com famous people 'catalogue' for comparison), and ultimately she strikes me as more Beta -- therefore, ENFj.


    I think this song is a perfect example of dominant ethics -- when it's Extraverted... 'ethical', 'pronounced', 'expansive', 'moral' and more 'rational', 'external', 'apparent', etc. in comparison to how an IEI might express moral problems, etc.

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    Once, when my ex-boyfriend (who was a Gemini) was kind of upset with me, and this was I think quite some time before I visited him, he sent these lyrics via chat: "You might win some but you just lost one." And that repeats over and over. Of course I was familiar with the song, but considering how fragmented and confused and insecure and guilty and 'inferior' and self-centred and flawed I am as a person it often makes me feel like I'm in the wrong or that I did something wrong, which of course, is often the case. Yet it's often been a challenge for me to focus on the positive and see what I can try to improve on or overcome, as opposed to just allowing myself to stay the same or become worse.
    Anyway, after I talked to him more he was saying how that lyric to him actually meant that he could lose me, and at that time he didn't want that.

    If I'm right, Lauryn Hill is definitely one of the good ENFj's. Yet I think a lot of people are hesitant to type people ENFj because it has a bad reputation, yet I think ENFj has just as much variety as any other type. Sometimes I wish I was ENFj, whether or not I really am. There's a lot I can relate to from that type.

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    I think ENFj-Ni is a possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazybones View Post
    Yet I think a lot of people are hesitant to type people ENFj because it has a bad reputation, yet I think ENFj has just as much variety as any other type.
    I would hope. Maybe she should be an archetype.. instead of.. I dunno.. people who should not be named.

    She's great. I would have thought she was INFP or ENFP in MBTI, but it's fair to say that those types can be Beta here.

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    Another argument for her being EIE (http://www.socioniko.net/ru/type-foto/et-fil.html) --

    Robert Christgau doesn't seem to like her music too much (especially her solo stuff):

    http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_a...me=Lauryn+Hill

    'The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill [Ruffhouse, 1998]
    P.C. [Politically Correct] record of the year--songs soft, singing ordinary, rapping skilled, rhymes up and down, skits de trop, production subtle and terrific ("Lost Ones," "Superstar"). ***

    MTV Unplugged 2.0 [Columbia, 2002]
    Probably not the worst album ever released by an artist of substance--there are all those Elvis soundtracks. But in the running. Full-length double-CD of wordy strophic strolls that often last six, seven, eight minutes, accompanied solely by a solo guitar Hill can barely strum (the first finger-picked figure occurs on track 10, where it repeats dozens upon dozens of times, arghh). Unlike Hill herself, who during one of many spoken-word breaks tells the adoring multitude that her singing voice has been roughed up by a late night (but not how weak it is when she gets her eight hours), the melodies do not assert themselves. Inspirational Patter: "Every single one of these songs is about me first." Makes them realer, aight? D-'


    And this makes sense if Robert Christgau is INTp and Lauryn Hill is ENFj.

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    Here are a couple of pictures:

    http://affrodite.net/wp-content/uplo...ryn_hill_6.jpg

    http://thankgodimnatural.files.wordp...auryn-hill.jpg


    She actually reminds me a bit of Ani DiFranco. My ex really liked Lauryn Hill, yet I once made a mixed CD that had a couple of Ani DiFranco songs, and he really liked them both ("School Night" and "Swan Dive"). He especially liked "School Night."

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazybones View Post

    Robert Christgau doesn't seem to like her music too much (especially her solo stuff):

    And this makes sense if Robert Christgau is INTp and Lauryn Hill is ENFj.
    That's not a very good argument. I love The Fugees' The Score and I think she has one of the best female Hip Hop personalities and vocals as a singer.
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    If she's not Ni-INFp then Fe-ENFj.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Though I don't think it's the case than an ILI would necessarily dislike an EIE's work.
    In my experience liking or disliking music (other kinds of art too?) isn't always subject to intertype relations: one of my current favorite songs is This Is The Life by Amy MacDonald, who is definitely some kind of ISTj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    If she's not Ni-INFp then Fe-ENFj.
    Why these subtypes?

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    She looks ISFp to me. And definitely an introvert.

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    Default Lauryn Hill

    Black dolphin. SEE-Fi is what I'm thinking.

    You can hear some fairly intimate interview content beginning around 6:30.





    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I typed Lauryn Hill EIE-Fe (ENFj-INFj?). I'm probably wrong though.

    http://www.socioniko.net/ru/type-foto/et-fil.html

    If you're interested in what Christgau had to say about her, here's a link:

    http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_a...me=Lauryn+Hill


    I personally disagree with the idea that Fi always equates to moralizing as opposed to Fe. (Clearly Fi does not hold the patent on respect, honour, morals, empathy, etc. There are a lot of Fi-PoLR types that value honor, 'ethics', etc. a lot.)
    My ex-boyfriend liked Lauryn Hill a lot, and he thought she VI'd ESE, yet he self-typed LII.





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    she's incredible.
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    Spiritually, I get Ni/Se vibes from her interviews and personality. Off the stage she doesn't seem forceful, active, or demonstratively passionate in her emotional range as I'd expect for EIE; she's pretty calm and confidential offstage, saving her passion for the studio.

    I'm not sure of Introvert/Extravert, but she does seem Ethical to me. So I at least have her as NF for Beta or SF for Gamma, though the realness she exudes lean me to Gamma.
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    SEE for sure.

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    She's female and has a neck. Thus SEE for sure imo.

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    Huh...I would see IEI>EIE for her. She strikes me as irrational, definitely sx primary, maybe a 6w5 sx/so?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Lauryn Hill at first glance seems XNFj.

    She dresses rather flamboyantly with all of those hats etc for an INFj though, so ENFj fits her better in terms of attire. Though this of course could just be part of a celebrity/stage persona which she has developed. She also at times wears a considerable amount of bling up on stage but maybe that is also just part of the show.

    In general her overall demeanour seems very spiritual, thoughtful and more introverted like.

    Found this article about her which I thought was interesting:

    http://www.people.com/people/archive...221692,00.html
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    Default Lauryn Noelle Hill

    Lauryn Hill: EIE-Fe (Dominant subtype) [EIE-ESE or EIE-EIE]

    My ex-boyfriend thought she VI’d ESE.





    " . . . . Now I may have faith to make mountains fall / But if I lack love then I am nothin' at all / I can give away everything I possess / But left without love then I have no happiness / I know I'm imperfect / And not without sin / But now that I'm older all childish things end . . . ."








    " . . . . I wrote these words for everyone who struggles in their youth / Who won't accept deception / Instead of what is truth / It seems we lose the game before we even start to play / Who made these rules? / We're so confused / Easily led astray . . . . After winter, must come spring . . . ."






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    <3 she is so pretty.

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