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    Would LSE and SLI chase loved one if something goes wrong?? or do they only sigh and put it away and live on in spite of hurt hearts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenoritaC View Post
    Would LSE and SLI chase loved one if something goes wrong?? or do they only sigh and put it away and live on in spite of hurt hearts?
    I think there's a story behind this question.
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    Once it's over, it's over, I only ever "get back" if we somehow stay friends and i'm snared into sex, but if it's not going to work it won't, didn't work the first time and I haven't found it work the second time. I've never chased after a girl when it's over, regardless of the situation.

    Actually, i'd rather leave it as not working than going back to it, it's better to remember the good memories rather than fucking them over too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    What did we type you as?
    I believe myself to be ISTp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    My X an ISTp chased after me for two years after I ended the relationship. Maybe it's over when you end the relationship and not the other way around.
    Possibly. I remember when I was 17 I dated a girl and she finished with her partner and started dating me, he was forever chasing after her. I remember thinking that won't ever be me.

    Most relationships i've had have reached a stage where we go on to do different things, indeed, I remember one where I was never quite sure of her being sexually attractive, but she was good at listening to my feelings and I talked about a lot of stuff which was new to me to do. She wanted me to settle down but I was never quite ready to do the "moving in for ever after" at that stage. Anyway various other things including this like changes of jobs, and me moving back to a healthier lifestyle - we would go out often, smoke a lot - i'd moved away from exercise and stuff for a while, had plenty of money and enjoyed going out drinking and eating and stuff, anyway as my interests changed and I would try to get her involved in hillwalking and stuff, she wasn't really interested. Suffice to say that it sort of ended, but I still think about her fondly and think perhaps I should have made the commitment to settle down, but I wasn't quite ready.

    In the chasing after - it's my humble experience that when it comes down to it, it's often the woman who decides if she is dating or not. I think that guys find it harder to get over. Women just seem - to me - to move on easier. I dunno, they get a new hairdo and then it's like new them, where as the guy is still getting his short back and sides, lol. Interestingly perhaps, I remember going to McDonalds not so long ago, I popped in at lunchtime, and it was full of guy with their kids - sort of like guys who looked a bit old and tired. It occured to me that they were seperated, they see the kids at the weekend, and the woman has the weekend to themselves, to go out socialising, meeting new people etc, and in this country the woman gets all the additional government benefits in this situation, plus often child support from the guy. So it's sort of related in a way, anyway, that is that for observations here and there, i'm sure it works both ways.... but ... I could go on, I could be wrong, but it is just my humble observations from the part of the globe where I live.


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    Not ESTj?
    Interestingly, considered this for a while, but it wasn't quite right, it was sort of like an "ESTj gone wrong" in some ways - which is probably to do with the temperament. My ESTj boss typed me ISTp incidentally, and at later date when interacting with other ISTp's the indentity relation struck me more than what it did with mirrors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    You know how to VI so VI yourself.
    Oh, i'm sure of my type, and I VI myself as ISTp, I suppose I was just a little curious what you would come up with, sorry if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    using my method?
    Yes.

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    Yeah - I think chasing after someone happens when one partner breaks off the relationship, but the other partner still feels attachment for them. The one who broke things off probably ended the relationship mentally some time before and had already processed everything emotionally. Makes it really easy to move on.

    And I've known SLIs to do that. My ex still hadn't gotten over whatever girl he'd dated two years previously who broke up with him. He still kept pictures of her around. Not on the mantlepiece or anything, but in places where he'd see them quite often. I have photos that have my ex boyfriends in them, but they're in shoeboxes in the attic marked "College." Not pasted to everyday objects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiny_dancer View Post
    Yeah - I think chasing after someone happens when one partner breaks off the relationship, but the other partner still feels attachment for them. The one who broke things off probably ended the relationship mentally some time before and had already processed everything emotionally. Makes it really easy to move on.

    And I've known SLIs to do that. My ex still hadn't gotten over whatever girl he'd dated two years previously who broke up with him. He still kept pictures of her around. Not on the mantlepiece or anything, but in places where he'd see them quite often. I have photos that have my ex boyfriends in them, but they're in shoeboxes in the attic marked "College." Not pasted to everyday objects.
    Well, there was one girl who ended it with me first, thinking of it some more for now - like you say, she was more mentally prepared for it.

    In a way I was glad as it wasn't working out, but I wasn't ready for the switch off yet, so it took me longer to get over, but I just kept busy with extra work and stuff, and kept my "pain" to myself, lol.

    I remember a photo on the wall of us which even although i'd re-arranged the apartment, I still left it up there for some time, then decided to take it down, but took the picture down but left the frame up for some reason, dunno, was just used to something being there.

    Anyway, relationships are funny things... seems we're all interested in socionics, but maybe it's better to stay single, ha, not that i'll ever understand them. (talking on thread over for now, lol).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    You're a better explainer then I am...that is due to my ; can you explain to people how to VI based on the method I showed you? I guess what I am trying to ask is if you can word it better for me?
    Well, I think you are good at explaining things!

    I will try, but it won't be today, maybe i'll try it then run it past you first, but i'd expect resistance from certain quarters, but as always, some people learn anyway, which is good.

    Edit: Maritsa33, i'm going to forward you something, not the above but on the subject of VI, ... see if you have opinion on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Well, I think you are good at explaining things!
    I'm glad you feel that way, because I completely disagree.
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    from my expierence when these types (especially LSE) are in love they won't ever stop chasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    N and S is very hard to explain...until I find a way to do it genetically, there isn't much to say except for trust me please. I keep typing you SEE, giving you examples of matches, have asked you to post your photo's up here so we can have people type you and relate to you with Dana Reeve and you refuse. I don't know how better to help you understand that genetics is related to personality which then is all tied to morphology (the way we are shaped).
    What? i dont ever remember being asked to publically post my pics! Stop making things up!!!

    I dont trust you because I dont relate to SEE at all. And I relate completely to IEE.

    The one thought I had as to why I VI'd SEE potentially in those pics, is because I put on an Se mood for that event.

    Anyway, not to derail this thread further. Carry on with the original topic please--I am very interested in hearing the responses too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post
    I think there's a story behind this question.
    I bet there is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenoritaC View Post
    Would LSE and SLI chase loved one if something goes wrong?? or do they only sigh and put it away and live on in spite of hurt hearts?
    IMO, it depends on what went wrong, why it went wrong, how much they love, and who else is involved. If the chasee doesn't hate being chased, and only the chaser and chasee are involved, I would assume the chase would continue despite "hurt hearts."

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    It's really, really hard for me to move on after I develop feelings for someone but I never chase anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    It's really, really hard for me to move on after I develop feelings for someone but I never chase anyone.
    girl. . .you know. . .

    I am having SUCH a hard time moving on. Trying not to chase. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    You should chase, they love the attention...go for it.
    No, he is withdrawing. I need to respect that. I've been a bit intrusive lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Well, I think you are good at explaining things!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    It's really like saying a horse is a sheep; if I tell you it's a horse and you haven't learned to tell them apart how can you study them for their own personality and behavior traits then be able to differentiate them from sheep?
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    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...a-romance.html

    Generally speaking, I try to not have relationships that don't benefit me; relationships that that are detracting from me overall and don't show any sign of getting better I try to avoid (Pragma)

    If eros gets deeply involved, it is harder to move on.

    The thing is, I am very dependent on "" of someone else. If someone indicates to me that the relationship is over, I can't disbelieve that. I can not want it to be so, and not want it to end, and be emotionally and all other ways attached to them, but if they sincerely tell me, or at least indicate, that things are over, then it is.

    I would much rather force someone into telling me how they feel about me, whatever it is, than not know how someone stands in regard to me. The less sure of how I feel, the less comfortable I feel about the whole situation.

    With maturity and experience, I realize that it doesn't really matter what I feel anyway - it depends on what the other person feels - in terms of whether or not a relationship is there. (That's actually the case for most male female relationships . . .)


    One of my main goals in a relationship is to have relational clarity. I will pursue someone until I know what it is. But once someone really demonstrates that they aren't into or committed to our relationship, I'll move on. It is not really comfortable or 'possible' for me to stay in a relationship where I'm the only person who cares. I will purge myself if necessary. What remains tends to be the eros, the passion, which honestly is strong and overpowering at times; it is rare for me to stop being attracted to someone (unless I see them as changing in a significant way). But the bottom line, for me, comes down to whether or not we are having a successful and substantial, realistic relationship. But I wasn't always that way; when I was young and more naive, and had less experience, it was more the sort of typical approach to relationships - thinking a lot about how I 'felt' about the person, if they were interesting to me, and then a bit of thought about how well we got along.


    One more thing about running - I will chase someone if I think there has been misunderstanding, because making sure someone has correct information is 'important to me'. Yet, once everything is understood, if they feel a certain way about me, then I will act on what that is. But I will not chase someone who is not interested in me. I don't think it is healthy for people to pursue people who aren't interested in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    May I VI you please.


    Maritsa, do you VI as INFj?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    May I VI you please.
    Perhaps. How do you feel about chatting online?
    I'm somewhat curious about your type, you could say.
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    why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I helped someone learn VI from scratch today and that just drains me...it's not like I can post all my VI pictures here and really have great examples; anyway; please send me pictues, I would like to VI you.
    You taught someone in one day?
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    why dont you just make a thread about your proccess instead of draining yourself teaching everyone individually? wouldn't it be more 'practical' that way and beneficial to everyone?
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I would like a dual please...
    You typed the others individually without a dual, I dont see why you cant just post up what you taught them to us. Copy/Paste New Thread. At least one of your dual is on here and will see the information to help with proccessing, not to mention the other 15 types who will be of service.
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Yeah...it's not hard. And anyone who tells you it is is really aristocratic and self important; it's not a secret.
    Maritsa's spreading her inaccurate techniques!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I would like a dual please...
    You checking me out?
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    I think she's demanding that a dual stand between her and ThePirate - a sensible request, as far as her own benefit goes, although:
    • It's very hard - impractical even - to consistently keep a dual on hand.
    • Wouldn't a dual have the same problems, having just as bad a relationship with the other people?


    Alternatively, she may be calling for a dual to help her construct the thread in question; interacting about a topic is generally easier than placing all needed information in a structured form, especially, I suspect, for a Feeler.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    I think she's demanding that a dual stand between her and ThePirate - a sensible request, as far as her own benefit goes, although:
    • It's very hard - impractical even - to consistently keep a dual on hand.
    • Wouldn't a dual have the same problems, having just as bad a relationship with the other people?


    Alternatively, she may be calling for a dual to help her construct the thread in question; interacting about a topic is generally easier than placing all needed information in a structured form, especially, I suspect, for a Feeler.
    BOOM HEAD SHOT


    PS: if no one else does, I'll put this in the hall of fame later
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryu View Post
    BOOM HEAD SHOT


    PS: if no one else does, I'll put this in the hall of fame later
    I don't get it... :/

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    uh, it's not really a joke, per se. So don't worry about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryu View Post
    uh, it's not really a joke, per se. So don't worry about it.
    Ok, I want to know your VI results by Maritsa.

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    I have a strange feeling she's already undressing me with her eyes, you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryu View Post
    I have a strange feeling she's already undressing me with her eyes, you know?
    Yeah, she sees your spine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    I don't get it... :/
    I don't either.


    I actually consider myself reasonably good at gathering, organizing and presenting needed information in a both a readable and structured format.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    Ok, I want to know your VI results by Maritsa.
    You know when people say shit like this, she doesn't understand that people don't take her seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctures View Post
    You know when people say shit like this, she doesn't understand that people don't take her seriously.
    I would think that the banning thread is enough... give her some credit. I'm actually interested to what she says for Ryu.

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