hahaa

[electric sheep]

Wouldn't it be funny if I was an ESE SEI?

[Creepy-male]

Wouldn't it be funny if I was an ESE?

I don't think you're either Alpha Rational. Do you think you could be ESE?

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[electric sheep]

I'm pretty sure I'm rational. I don't get along with most ESEs, I always seem to end up getting into some weird kind of competition with them. A friend of mine told me that I seem really bubbly, and I guess I am sometimes. I dunno. There's this one girl I know that really seems to bring out that "inner bubbliness" in me.

Also, with socionics and just about everything else I learn, I can learn about it all I want, but I never feel confident in my ability to use that knowledge to come to a conclusion. I can explain the concepts pretty well, but I don't feel like I can make good use out of it other than picking roommates or whatever.

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[krieger]

There never was anything wrong with the INTj typing. These little type shift attention whoring adventures never go anywhere.

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[krieger]

My stating my opinion doesn't in any way obstruct the discussion from developing along it's natural course.

[electric sheep]

I'm like the anti-LIE. If you took an LIE and brainwashed him with capricious alpha values from birth, I think you'd get someone like me.

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[Azeroffs]

)
It's enough to move the Extroversion charge from the Base function of an LIE to the Creative to make it an SEI.
☰☵ - LIE
☴☱ - SEI

What?

edit: ohhhh external dynamic fields... It's not that simple.

honestly, I wouldn't discard alpha SF. You're not at all like other LIIs, at least the ones that are here.

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[electric sheep]

ok, a few things are making me question my type:

1. I've always felt like I needed to stand up for my nerdier, more awkward friends in any situation. It's just easy for me to put myself in their situation. Finding people to stick up for me is another story.
2. I'm very diplomatic, consoling, and accommodating. I don't like upsetting people, and I usually know if I'm going to say something that will upset someone, although sometimes so if I upset someone, it's usually on purpose.
3. I don't have a regimented lifestyle, I just tend to play things by ear. It makes me nervous when I have to prepare for something ahead of time. I have no problem adjusting my schedule for someone else most of the time. I don't like changing plans if I've taken the time to make them already.
4. When I'm sick, I really enjoy having someone to take care of me, but other than that I don't like being taken care of. I'm really good at taking care of myself and I have my own things I like to tend to. I think I'd like someone that's aloof enough to let me do my own things most of the time. I don't like receiving gifts either. Do something for me, but don't give me anything. I don't like stuff, I have lots of stuff.
5. I hate things that dehumanize people. Little managerial decisions bother me because I don't like to think of some people as more valuable than others. It's really hard for me to just throw someone away, for lack of a better word. When people do this it bothers me a lot.
6. I'm always getting my friends to try food. I'm not culinary artist, but I like making people try food for some reason. I've made a few people mad with this lol. It's just something my parents always did to me, so I do it to others. meh.
7. I'm just so goddamn bubbly sometimes, I can barely contain myself.
8. My last girlfriend might have been an ILE. She was not very affectionate, and she was emotionally distant. She was a lot of fun though.

maybe I should take Joe's advice? I'm not the exception?

[Creepy-male]

You're also very confident with your ideas and conclusions at times, and I'd say this is Ti HA > Ti DS, at least in the way that you can quite doggedly stick by them.

EDIT

I don't think I'm describing this well. Ti HAs can seem almost militant when it comes to defending ideas they're confident in (strrrng, rat, kam in private, me sometimes). You also seem to come up with some really strange things sometimes (the thing that stuck out to me was all these bizarre combinations of etype and sociotype, almost as if you were trying to prove that such combinations exist).

[electric sheep]

lol I just use the combinations as shorthand. I thought it could be an alternative to using subtypes. Just use what's already there--Etypes. huzzah! You think it's bizarre? I think it's innovation! Most of the SEIs I know are 9s, but I know a couple 3s. I'll lump myself in with them. In a weird way, I think using the enneagram was like giving myself an excuse to date some ILEs, because that would keep my whole theory intact (don't ask me to explain it beyond that, I don't think I could).

I guess I know why I really, really don't like LSEs now.

I pose a question to you Cool: I suck at keeping friends because I can't seem to put forth the effort, and I always feel like I'm intruding. Do you feel the same way?

[electric sheep]

Me as SEI:

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[electric sheep]

lol you first

[thePirate]

I pose a question to you Cool: I suck at keeping friends because I can't seem to put forth the effort, and I always feel like I'm intruding. Do you feel the same way?

asking gul for his opinion

proceed with caution

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[electric sheep]

I politely request some Ne, and take it easy on the Ti, ok?

i have thought that you could be an ethical type, sheep, but it's just an impression.

Yea, most of the time I act like one, but I've been paying attention to the times when I don't.

[Creepy-male]

I pose a question to you Cool: I suck at keeping friends because I can't seem to put forth the effort, and I always feel like I'm intruding. Do you feel the same way?

Sounds like me. For instance, I stopped talking to a really good friend of mine (ESE) because he lost his computer and started using mobile phone MSN, which put a mobile icon next to his name in my client. Erp. Also I tend to lose contact even with people I like if they stop talking to me, because they fall off the face of the planet as far as I'm concerned. I'm also, perhaps unbelievably, too shy to make new friends IRL most of the time. I did not have a single person in highschool to hang out with that I hadn't known in primary school or earlier and then bumped into, but I don't think this would apply to you so much.

So yes, check and check on both accounts.

And yes, I am incredibly shy off the internets. I thought I might need to run that by you all to get it past the initial disbelief.

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[electric sheep]

not really, but I almost punched my roommate when he was about to throw out my little jar of garlic because I never use it.

[electric sheep]

*bump*

ok what if I was wrong? What if I am ESI? Is there any evidence out there? I'm really good at prodding people into action. Sometimes this causes severe discomfort. My gut fix - 1w2 could also point towards ESI. I think I have a more functional than comfortable environment, so I'm very utilitarian in that respect. So what? Gamma stands for everything I hate in the world. I'll take socialism over capitalism any day. I fucking love socialized medicine and I'm not very rational about everything I do. Sometimes I do something just because I can, as an exercise in free will. I say fuck it, change something and let everyone else sort it out. What now? What do you say to that?

And yes, sometimes I am unnecessarily confrontational, but I think it can be fun. But really, I piss off just about every gamma I talk to, so it's not just you

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[electric sheep]

nope, I can't be LII. I don't think I'm ESI either. I think the only types I could be are SEI or ESE.

A lot of things seem to interfere with diagnosing my type. I'm a 3w2. This means I easily adapt to any environment. I "speak the language" in a sense that I do this wherever I go. Whether I'm in a frat party, a chess tournament, in a computer science class, another country, wherever I go, I'm always picking up cues on how people act towards each other and I mimic that. So yes I'm a very adaptable person, but I adapt with purpose.

*looks around* who are you talking to?

Are you talking to me? I don't see anyone else here, so you must be talking to me

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[thePirate]

yeah man, I mean maybe ESE, but you can definitely cross out SEI from the list. It just doesnt make sense from your posts or really from ennegram correlation

[electric sheep]

Ahhh this feels good

ESE it is.