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    Say some one has something you want (emphasis on want and not need, I.E. something that would make you happy or would be nice to have). Specifically control over another individual. And some one is jokingly teasing you with their possession of the thing you want. How would you respond?
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    Indifferently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    Indifferently.
    The question was more or less directed at the Se egos, for reasons I would assume are somewhat obvious lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Say some one has something you want (emphasis on want and not need, I.E. something that would make you happy or would be nice to have). Specifically control over another individual. And some one is jokingly teasing you with their possession of the thing you want. How would you respond?
    You beat the shit out of them and take it back. . .
    I just feel like I've done something to make you think that I care about you, like what you do or say. . . For that I am sorry

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    Ok, perhaps a better question. How long can I make a SLE jump through hoops? And what happens if I accidentally get them through one hoop to many?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Ok, perhaps a better question. How long can I make a SLE jump through hoops? And what happens if I accidentally get them through one hoop to many?
    I don't think you can make them jump for that long. At first I think they would do it mostly because they don't really care, but after a while I believe they would have the mind set of something along the lines of, "Ok what the hell are you doing, and why am I doing this." you would then go on to say because I don't think you can do it. Then after that challenge I don't think you could get them to stop. . . .
    I just feel like I've done something to make you think that I care about you, like what you do or say. . . For that I am sorry

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    I wonder how easily SLEs see that they are jumping through hoops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Say some one has something you want (emphasis on want and not need, I.E. something that would make you happy or would be nice to have). Specifically control over another individual. And some one is jokingly teasing you with their possession of the thing you want. How would you respond?
    I'd laugh it off and take the controlled individual to be a weakling and not worth bothering with anyway. To be honest, I've always shied away from suck-ups and ass-kissers. Why would you want some gimp following you around?
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    My natural reaction would be to be slightly annoyed while internally scheming how to get what I want... My learned reaction would be to let it be, and not want, etc. That's Buddhism--and it's easier said than done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    The question was more or less directed at the Se egos, for reasons I would assume are somewhat obvious lol
    Well, it was an Se-ego who asked the question, wasn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Ok, perhaps a better question. How long can I make a SLE jump through hoops? And what happens if I accidentally get them through one hoop to many?
    You can make them jump through hoops as long as some enigmatic goal fuels their actions, and subtle emotional interplay is maintained enough to both guide them along and keep them confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    (i'm thinking more a possessive romantic feeling though, not "control over another individual"... i don't want that... am i understanding this thread correctly?)
    Fine... I really didn't want to explain myself but here it is. This girl I know seems to want me, I'm currently teasing her with the 'trick to getting me to do anything at anytime'. Cause it's fun and flirty and all that mess. What I'm trying to figure out is how long can I keep this up before she reacts and furthermore what is that reaction likely to be?
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    lol. I would suggest maintaining a tacit indifference, so that she can never rule out the possibility that you might drift off unconcernedly. This in combination with the red herrings you're creating, will better veil the fact that you're just being attention-seeking (which, if found out, would most likely result in your abrupt dismissal).
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    lol. I would suggest maintaining a tacit indifference, so that she can never rule out the possibility that you might drift off unconcernedly. This in combination with the red herrings you're creating, will better veil the fact that you're just being attention-seeking (which, if found out, would most likely result in your abrupt dismissal).
    LOL! I'm so glad I got actual advice, instead of ppl just loling or shaking their finger *funky dance*
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    See it, want it, got it. =D
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    If I really wanted control over someone, i would probably try to use some Fe at an opportune moment to influence things. In fact this one girl got caught in a tug of war between myself and SLE. She was sitting between us, SLE was using Se with her, I started using Fe with her. I won. (in the sense that she ended up ignoring him and talking to me)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Fine... I really didn't want to explain myself but here it is. This girl I know seems to want me, I'm currently teasing her with the 'trick to getting me to do anything at anytime'. Cause it's fun and flirty and all that mess. What I'm trying to figure out is how long can I keep this up before she reacts and furthermore what is that reaction likely to be?
    If you want amoral advice, follow strrrng's (love ya Nick ), but how about - do you want her? If so all this shit is pointless and you should get with her. If not, cut that shit out man. It's not nice to mess about with girls by leading them on. You can hurt their feelings.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    If you want amoral advice, follow strrrng's (love ya Nick ), but how about - do you want her? If so all this shit is pointless and you should get with her. If not, cut that shit out man. It's not nice to mess about with girls by leading them on. You can hurt their feelings.
    Feelings? hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    wait. . those are real?
    I just feel like I've done something to make you think that I care about you, like what you do or say. . . For that I am sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    If you want amoral advice, follow strrrng's (love ya Nick ), but how about - do you want her? If so all this shit is pointless and you should get with her. If not, cut that shit out man. It's not nice to mess about with girls by leading them on. You can hurt their feelings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    Ezra, you're a doll.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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