Some Basic Lists
I'm not sure what this has to do with, but it seems accurate nonetheless.
Delta = Mother Country
Alpha = Explorers
Beta = Conquerors
Gamma = Settlers
Delta = Mother Country
ect.
How the different supervision rings would go about a siege, with positivists as attackers and negativists as defenders:
Holographic: Puts soldiers at every door.
Cause-Effect: Finds a hidden passage.
Vortex: Charges a door.
Algorithmic: Defends doors as they're breached.
haahhh, ok from the defenders side on that whole thing...
well, yea, that does go into lines...
ummm, yep, delta is all about... let's go... get some stupid, shitty unstabble land, and sorta, well, if we have some betas, i we hope alfas too, we gon to live, love, and cherish our lands...
well probably not really that, but it go well into the words, of what betas might of course love about the whole delta philosophy... and probably delta dont really know whats the heck philosophy is, since.... they aren't really into feelings... right?
ummm, soorry bout saying, that... but you know, half of quadra cannot feel anything at all... and then the rest of the guys,,, are just slow... and introverted...
and is it true that deltas do really enjoy pancakes?? like 10 times a week? :/
this goes into discusionn,, so you may answer, if you feel like it, i would be honored by such you feelings...
I'm having a lot of trouble following you...are you from a different country? Deltas often like pancakes. I don't think that's type-related...I personally don't care for them.
Some Deltas are into feelings. The IEE has actually been called "The phychologist." They like philosophy, and I believe EIIs do too.
No, "ect." is actually the abbreviation for "ectoplasm".Originally Posted by ollobollo
Also, I think those are excellent analogies, Abbie. The Quadra progression one especially is very neat and tidy and, upon a moment's reflection, self-evidently true.
The only one I'm not entirely sure of is "Finds a hidden passage" for Cause-Effect. I feel like there should be a more obvious/natural analogy than that, but I can't quite put my finger on it. Hmm.
Quaero Veritas.
I'm not a super genius or anything, but I really don't understand this thread at all.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
DnD alignments (mostly focussed on their portrayals):
Lawful: Rational
Chaotic: Irrational
Good: Serious
Evil: Merry
You forgot Logos.
Lol, I thought it was:
Lawful = Serious
Chaotic = Merry
Good = Judicious
Evil = Decisive
Alpha Chaotic Good
Beta Chaotic Evil
Gamma Lawful Evil
Delta Lawful Good
The end is nigh
LIIs - Lawful Neutral
SEIs - Neutral Good
ILEs - Chaotic Neutral
ESEs - ? (Actually, by the pattern above they'd be Neutral Evil... lol)
BUT I WANT TO BE LAWFUL EVIL!!Lol, I thought it was:
Lawful = Serious
Chaotic = Merry
Good = Judicious
Evil = Decisive
Alpha Chaotic Good
Beta Chaotic Evil
Gamma Lawful Evil
Delta Lawful Good
*stomps archon's sandcastle*
lol me too kinda (Because chaotic evil people are crazy and I enjoy black spikey armor and fortresses moreso)
In practice though, I feel more Chaotic Neutral (and even neutral is pushing it and it's mostly because everyone knows good is for chumps).
The end is nigh
In reality evil = psychosis, so that's hardly surprising.
On a serious note, I think elves, hobbits, dwarves and the like are typically portrayed as Te/Fi quadra types. That's the main basis for the "Serious = good" idea.
yeah lots of damn fanfics are written by ILIs.
I like this chart
(For 2, think GLADOS from Portal)
The end is nigh
Hm. I scored Good Neutral on the alignment test.
Then go be a Gamma.
Lawful means rules, which means LSI.
Lawful = aristocratic
Chaotic = democratic
Gamma Chaotic Evil.
So serious is evil and merry is good?Lawful means rules, which means LSI.
Lawful = aristocratic
Chaotic = democratic
Gamma Chaotic Evil.
Agreed. As was mentioned in another thread, Merry types tend to provoke societal upheaval, and therefore can be most closely correlated with Chaotic. Furthermore, Se-valuing types are perceived as more aggressive than Si-valuing types, and therefore can be most closely correlated with Evil.
Quaero Veritas.
I never said it, just switched lawful/chaotic for Beta and Gamma...So serious is evil and merry is good?
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The problem that I have with your classifications is that it precludes the possibility of Ne being used for evil ends, when ENTps actually make up the majority of chaotically evil characters in pop culture. Look at people like Batman's Joker. They're in their element when they stir up the world.Lawful = Serious
Chaotic = Merry
Good = Judicious
Evil = Decisive
Alpha Chaotic Good
Beta Chaotic Evil
Gamma Lawful Evil
Delta Lawful Good
Satan himself could very well be an ENTp. He is typically a deceiver, not primarily someone who uses violence. Intuitive all the way.
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Also, perceiving functions aren't associated nearly as much with motivation of decisions and morality than judgment functions are. Perceiving functions are just the tool, not the motivation.
Fixed.
The evil/good thing is kinda tricky because most people in today's society are "good". We lock up the psychopaths these days and it's questionable whether they roamed the world in large numbers to begin with.
Ti/Fe values vs. Te/Fi values is really mostly a matter of social power (authority, popularity) vs. monetary power (material wealth).
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I'm having a hard time seeing where the "Te PoLR" association comes from, can you elaborate on it?One might say that Satan was/is rather a Fe (and I'd say Te PoLR) type in a Te dominated world. It seem to me that he was not deceiving people by smartness but temptation.
Could be. Last I check people were divided between ENTp and ENFj (the two types I think most plausible for Satan aswell). My view of Joker is that he is exceedingly extroverted, intuitive and at the same time very much in control of things. The former mixes decently with ENFj, but the latter doesn't really. ENFjs are mostly about communicating their victimhood and making other people deal with their problems.The Joker seem rather an Ethical type, his main concern is people which is unlikely to be ILE, who has a focus towards abstract things. It's not an ILE default trait to "stir up the world", when it happens it usually comes as their warning into people's help - fight with the giants, you know - not against humanity.
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Imo I would say...
Extravagance = Se
Greed = Te
Despair & Acedia = Ni
Envy = Fe or Fi I guess
Sloth = IP...
Wrath = Fe or Se or EJ
Pride = Ne/Si
Christianity is a pretty Fe/Beta religion, anyway. Also, kindness and charity and crap are not necessarily only Fi. It can also be Fe, or just about anything.
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Funny, I always thought it was more Delta.
I don't know why this made me lol so much, but it did.
Ha! Awesome.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I agree. And that's one of my favorite verses.
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