INTj DCNH Subtypes

[Crispy]

Is it more common for an H-INTj to be an INTP or INTJ in MBTI?
If one is to be an H-INTj in DCNH, what would they be closer in the 2 subtype system (Ti or Ne?)

I think I may be closer to Ni-INTj than Ti-INTj if the hypothetical descriptions are correct, but I'm wondering if that implies anything in other systems.

[Krig the Viking]

I don't know about MBTI; I try to ignore it as much as possible.

H-INTj and C-INTj are subtypes of the Ne-INTj subtype, while D-INTj and N-INTj are subtypes of Ti-INTj.

H and C are Irrational subtypes, while D and N are Rational subtypes.

[Crispy]

So the rational/irrational dichotomy precedes the introverted/extroverted dichotomy with the DCNH?

[Krig the Viking]

So the rational/irrational dichotomy precedes the introverted/extroverted dichotomy with the DCNH?

Well, I don't know if "precedes" is the right term -- they exist simultaneously. It's just that the standard two-subtype system divides the subtypes by rational/irrational (or by accepting/producing, which boils down to the same thing), so it's easier to start there.

Have you read Gulenko's articles on DCNH?

[Crispy]

I might've skimmed em; they on wikisocion?

[Krig the Viking]

I might've skimmed em; they on wikisocion?

Yeah. They're the main source we English-speakers have for knowledge of DCNH.

Compatibility and Duality - Wikisocion
System of DCNH Subtypes - Wikisocion

[717495]

I do know that a lot of MBTI INTJs I know turn out to be LSI in socionics, just a personal observation. But I've never dug deep into MBTI correlations, since a sort of grasp on two different things both called Ni, for instance, makes studying the two theories simultaneously rather harder than just studying this one: the one that seems nicer to my impressions of internal workings and lifestyle: Socionics.

I also know a lot of INTPs can be ILIs, and I guess there is an INTx-ness about LIIs. There is no real answer to your question though. Correlations are unnecessary, and certainly show themselves that way due to their obsoletism once you start to get in the mindset that Socionics is its own thing.

[Crispy]

After reading the DCNH Article I have decided that I am definitely the normalizing subtype.

[Krig the Viking]

After reading the DCNH Article I have decided that I am definitely the normalizing subtype.

I'm glad I could be of assistance.

[JohnDo]

After reading the DCNH Article I have decided that I am definitely the normalizing subtype.

This method is not reliable!! You need to know a D-LII, a C-LII, a N-LII and a H-LII personally before you can decide what you are. I thought I was C-LII first. Then I subtyped the LIIs I know personally and realized that I am actually H-LII.

[electric sheep]

I'm a D-LII. Now you know one.

[tcaudilllg]

LSI descriptions are universally poor... a phenomena that I attribute one the one hand to misunderstanding of LSIs, and on the other to LSIs' misunderstanding of themselves. Generally, LSIs try to think of how to bring people together... or, how to drive them apart. Coercing the usage of force plays into either thesis.