Your feelings and why they don't matter

[JWC3]

Listen, alls I'm saying is that I really couldn't care less how any one feels about any one else when it comes to socionics types.

Alright, so your not besties with some one on this site who is supposedly your dual. Maybe you even despise some one who is supposedly your dual. That doesn't really amount to anything.

Sure having an unnatural hatred of some one you are supposed to get along with great may arouse some suspicion of what that persons type really is, but that suspicion doesn't amount to any sort of actual tangible evidence for that persons type.

Essentially what I'm getting at is that instead of saying "This person isn't type x because I'm the compliment to type x and I hate them" I propose you use your hatred of the person you claim to not be 'type x' to find actual evidence for a contrary typing of that person rather than use your own feelings as undeniable proof of your rightness.

[Azeroffs]

+1

[Suz]

No, that was indicative of Se primary (commanding people to stop being outta line), Ti creative (need evidence of typing before making a conjecture based on feelings), Fe-valuing(respect each other), and Fi-despising (you own petty feelings dont matter).


I applaud you! Spoken like a true beta (and SLE) !

[Marie84]

Essentially what I'm getting at is that instead of saying "This person isn't type x because I'm the compliment to type x and I hate them" I propose you use your hatred of the person you claim to not be 'type x' to find actual evidence for a contrary typing of that person rather than use your own feelings as undeniable proof of your rightness.

[Jarno]

Essentially what I'm getting at is that instead of saying "This person isn't type x because I'm the compliment to type x and I hate them" I propose you use your hatred of the person you claim to not be 'type x' to find actual evidence for a contrary typing of that person rather than use your own feelings as undeniable proof of your rightness.

hehe yeah, typing a relationship by looking how you get on with them online is dumb.

however when someone uses this statement when having a true close relationship in real life, it might have some value...

[JWC3]

That was very diplomatic. Diplomats are IEI-Fe. You are IEI-Fe. Q.E.D.

You know, I'm always flattered when some one tires to type me as Beta NF.

[somavision]

Good thread.

[Satan]

You know, I'm always flattered when some one tires to type me as Beta NF.

You're easily pleased.

[pinkcanary]

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[Hot Scalding Gayser]

Uhhhhhhhhh.........no.

Socionics is based on how you feel about people. Thoughts are every bit as subjective as feelings are. It is quite possible to like somebody more than they like you, which is what asymmetrical relationships are all about. (ie the supervisor is fond of the supervisee, the supervisee is annoyed by the supervisor) Socionics is entirely based on your subjective feelings towards people. Of course these feelings, depending on the relationship might take some time to reveal themselves, but they are there.

But even though THAT'S true, there's still an objective criteria for determining people's types. It is all interrelated.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

I'd invite everybody to use their emotional, irrational magical gay sides of their brain more and don't always rely on their analytical, rational reality straight sides of their brain. =D

Cause at least for me the emotional magical shaman side is always more powerful, it's the one I listen to the most and whenever I don't listen to it, I regret it.

My emotions give me power, give me strength and inspiration. I'm tired of people not understanding the other half of the universe. *sigh*

[Marie84]

Uhhhhhhhhh.........no.

Socionics is based on how you feel about people. Thoughts are every bit as subjective as feelings are. It is quite possible to like somebody more than they like you, which is what asymmetrical relationships are all about. (ie the supervisor is fond of the supervisee, the supervisee is annoyed by the supervisor) Socionics is entirely based on your subjective feelings towards people. Of course these feelings, depending on the relationship might take some time to reveal themselves, but they are there.

But even though THAT'S true, there's still an objective criteria for determining people's types. It is all interrelated.

The problem with relying too much on your feelings about someone is that it's often based on more shallow criteria.
For instance, someone may decide that they're don't/do like/dislike a person if said person doesn't/does share their views, lifestyle, etc. In other words, typing based on personal preferences and beliefs that go outside of Socionics

[Satan]

you're easily aroused.

well maybe you have a shot then.