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    Default Wings of Enneagram type 5 and Socionics Types

    So if I understand correctly most 5's should be either LII's, SLI's, or ILI's (any types I'm missing?)

    When splitting 5 into 5w4 and 5w6 what types are more likely to have a 4 wing and which types are more likely to have a 6 wing? I ask because I'm still trying to build confidence in my self typing and I need a lot more information before I'll be satisfied. At this point I feel INTj and 5w6 fit me extremely well but would like to know more regarding the types that are close.
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    LSIs can be 5s

    Also wouldn't rule out ILE and LIE entirely, although they're certainly not common.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    lol Parkster, I was thinking the exact same thing! Esp. since the OP name is "crispy", all I could think of is crispy wings! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    You're winging it with these visual puns, I see.

    Those look delicious though. *goes to get a midnight snack*

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    I wouldn't be surprised if there are some IEI 5s.

    ILI is the definitive 5w4 though could be w6
    IEI if they are 5 would indefinitely be 5w4

    all other 5s, especial ISTx would most likely be 5w6

    The difference between w4 and w6 is the difference between a more abstract philosopher type and a more scientific empirical type.

    5w4 tend to take on the idea that truth is beyond reality. They tend to view counter-intuitive ideas as more valuable and more likely. "Knowledge that is distinguished."
    5w6 are are a lot more grounded onto what is real and observable. Objectivity and reality are seen as the only reliable place to gain knowledge. "Knowledge I can be certain of."

    both strongly value knowledge and love using their impractical thoughts as a kind of game. Mental wanderings are their toys that they find more interesting than real life which they view as overwhelming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azeroffs View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if there are some IEI 5s.

    ILI is the definitive 5w4 though could be w6
    IEI if they are 5 would indefinitely be 5w4

    all other 5s, especial ISTx would most likely be 5w6

    The difference between w4 and w6 is the difference between a more abstract philosopher type and a more scientific empirical type.

    5w4 tend to take on the idea that truth is beyond reality. They tend to view counter-intuitive ideas as more valuable and more likely. "Knowledge that is distinguished."
    5w6 are are a lot more grounded onto what is real and observable. Objectivity and reality are seen as the only reliable place to gain knowledge. "Knowledge I can be certain of."

    both strongly value knowledge and love using their impractical thoughts as a kind of game. Mental wanderings are their toys that they find more interesting than real life.

    makes sense
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    What about LII's? Are they more likely to be 5w6 than 5w4? Is there another enneagram type/wing combo that fits closely with LII?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    What about LII's? Are they more likely to be 5w6 than 5w4? Is there another enneagram type/wing combo that fits closely with LII?
    I would guess that LIIs would be more likely to be 5w6 yes. I know two of them in fact.
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    Carl Rove could've been an IEI 5...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    hey, on that same note... what goes well with messy but all sorta harmanafalaizd ?talking of course

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    Do you even need wings? Maybe some can just be a 5. But I'm 5w4 and ILI, and some 5w6s are also ILI. 4w5 or 5w4 seems to be a popular IXI enneagram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolanzon View Post
    You're winging it with these visual puns, I see.
    olololololo

    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Do you even need wings? Maybe some can just be a 5. But I'm 5w4 and ILI, and some 5w6s are also ILI. 4w5 or 5w4 seems to be a popular IXI enneagram.
    what ever happened to Ti-ENTp?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Carl Rove could've been an IEI 5...
    how is karl rove INFp
    "And above all, watch with glittering eyes the whole world around you because the greatest secrets are always hidden in the most unlikely places. Those who don't believe in magic will never find it." -Roald Dahl

    http://forum.socionix.com/
    It's pretty cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctures View Post
    what ever happened to Ti-ENTp?
    Still no arguments to back up Ti-ENTp by anyone. Seems unlikely at this point, especially peculiar considering that I seem to value Fi.
    Fi-PoLR is superfluous.

    So my verdict is that people don't care enough to follow through on their reasoning, even though they're entitled to their opinions. This also means that I have decided to continue resourcing my normal resources once again.

    I think some people sort of confuse socionics Ti with a characteristic of MBTI Ti, and see me in that. I guess I now know this about some people here, and don't have that as a reason to be confused anymore. But I'll always be uncertain, especially when I get new information that makes me rethink things.

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    why is a 5w6 iei so not possible?
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    I wouldn't rule it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    You're winging it with these visual puns, I see.

    Those look delicious though. *goes to get a midnight snack*
    And how many wings on the plate? 5

    Good job Parkster.
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    Enneagram 5 with a side of wings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Do you even need wings? Maybe some can just be a 5.
    I consider myself a wingless 5.

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    blah. Everyone with an intellectual bent thinks they're a 5.
    The saddest ESFj

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    I'm pretty strong in both wings, probably lean more towards 6 so that's what I put in my SIG.
    LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP



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    Quote Originally Posted by warrior-librarian View Post
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    Since I don't believe T16T allows graphical signatures, you can't actually have SIGs here

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    Intj and 5w4. Their artistic and share similar moods to 4's. People have noticed I'm creative and have artistic talent though I'm not an artist of any kind. I have a ISTP brother and father. They fit the 5w6 well - specialists in their own field and their less subjective. My brother is notorious for asking too many questions which describes the 5w6 well since they tend to ask a bunch of questions without really dealing with the matter at hand - information paralysis.

    My opinion is shaped around the idea that INTJ can mean 5w6 and 5w4. There is no limitation as the same can be said for INTP who can be 5w6 and 5w4.

    As an example: Carl Jung is a INTJ and enneargram type 5 and in my opinion 5w4wing. When the 5w4 is described as having an intuitive caste over knowledge that seems accurate of Carl Jung's work. Sometimes he sounds like he is telling a mythical or epic story rather than scientifically describing psychological types.

    Charles darwin is a 5w6 and debatebly an INTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    What about LII's? Are they more likely to be 5w6 than 5w4? Is there another enneagram type/wing combo that fits closely with LII?
    I'd guess 5w6 is slightly more likely than 5w4 but I admit I don't have any strong evidence to back that up. Just basing it on the LIIs I know on this forum and in real life.

    I'd say 1w9 is also pretty common. Possibly 6w5 and 9w1. The latter is probably only common with harmonizing subtypes.


    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Do you even need wings? Maybe some can just be a 5. But I'm 5w4 and ILI, and some 5w6s are also ILI. 4w5 or 5w4 seems to be a popular IXI enneagram.
    LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP



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