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    Default Enneagram type 6 is a myth

    E6 doesn't correspont to anything socionics-related; I've heard that any type can be an E6.
    There's an odd number of enneagram types, which makes comparrisons unnecessarily complex and makes lining them up by twos impossible.
    I don't know any E6s.

    Eliminate the outlier. If you are an enneagram 6, you are either mistyped or a myth.

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    Nah, E6 exists. I'm married to one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    Nah, E6 exists. I'm married to one.
    Is he a myth? Why is he an E6? Process of elimination?

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    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Is he a myth?
    hmmmmm. maybe!

    Why is he an E6? Process of elimination?
    no, definitely not. The E6 "sin" is anxiety/fear. They're very loyal, trustworthy, hardworking and responsible. Their fixation is trying to construct security for themselves so that they can handle their fears. That's what his entire life consists of.
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    One of the common opinions on this forum that surprised me was this "universality" of 6. I think any socionics type can be any Enneagram type, but 6 seems very specific, not at all "any other person". Maybe I see it so clearly because I've known at least two, including my mother.

    I don't get this idea of unifying enneagram and socionics. Enneagram is influenced by nurture more than nature, while socionics is supposedly all nature, isn't it? Some correlation is obvious enough (i.e. most 5's being introverts), but it's more due to tendency to perceive events in a particular way than any direct relation.

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    you can't get rid of me

    But seriously, the only other thing I could be is 9, and I'm way too introspective/head-centered for that.



    Although I do have green eyes. Myth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    Nah, E6 exists. I'm married to one.
    As am I. Kelly is also a pretty clear E6 imo.

    And it's not process of elimination. From my perspective, E6's seem to define themselves by their relationships.
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    trinity is as legitimate a basis for logical inference as duality. just hard to fathom the differences...
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    Or perhaps if you think about the fact that every E type has two wing combinations making there realistically 18 types in the enneagram you could find certain ideal pairings for each type. Perhaps nothing so exclusive as duality but certain pairings are more probable than others, I would guess.

    Heck, if you wanted to you could say that the 6 types (6w5 and 6w7) are "universal" meaning that there are 16 enneagram types that match with 16 socionics types and two neutral enneagram types that could be universally applied. I don't actually believe that's true, but I guess if you wanted to take the time you might be able to prove something of the sort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoapOfSapphire View Post
    One of my best friends is an LSE 6. Whaddya think of them apples?
    Apples? Apples are fine. I'm very prejudiced against apple juice.

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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    I'm very prejudiced against apple juice.
    get out
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    some enneagram 6 exemplars:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    E6 doesn't correspont to anything socionics-related; I've heard that any type can be an E6.
    There's an odd number of enneagram types, which makes comparrisons unnecessarily complex and makes lining them up by twos impossible.
    I don't know any E6s.

    Eliminate the outlier. If you are an enneagram 6, you are either mistyped or a myth.
    You are so an LSI.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    You are so an LSI.
    I'd like to think that she wasn't at all serious about what she said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctures View Post
    I'd like to think that she wasn't at all serious about what she said.
    I was partially serious. I'm annoyed that I can't arrange enneagram in two straight lines and haven't experienced an E6 any more than I've experienced Santa Clause. So it would be personally convenient if they were a myth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    I was partially serious. I'm annoyed that I can't arrange enneagram in two straight lines and haven't experienced an E6 any more than I've experienced Santa Clause. So it would be personally convenient if they were a myth.
    well you could go for ONE straight line. What about the circle thing? that's pretty orderly, don't you think? Plus 9 is equally divisible by 3. Doesn't that count for anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctures View Post
    get out
    Juicy Juice advertises 100% juice. Have you ever read the ingredients? The same goes for lots of other juices, especially exotic blends. Apple juice is a coniving sneak of a sweetener!

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    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    well you could go for ONE straight line. What about the circle thing? that's pretty orderly, don't you think? Plus 9 is equally divisible by 3. Doesn't that count for anything?
    That counts for something, but the circular chart is weird. There's the triangle, then that goofy shape with an open end. How'd they come up with that? What's wrong with using three triangles?

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    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    I'd call it more of a filler than a sweetener.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I'd call it more of a filler than a sweetener.
    That too. It's a cheap filler. And it gave my little brother 5 cavities. (It could have been because he didn't brush his teeth, but he's an avid apple juice drinker and I'd rather blame it on that.)

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    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Does that mean the rest of Etypes are a myth ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    I was partially serious. I'm annoyed that I can't arrange enneagram in two straight lines and haven't experienced an E6 any more than I've experienced Santa Clause. So it would be personally convenient if they were a myth.
    You could arrange it on a 3x3 grid with instinct centers as one axis and object relations as the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    That counts for something, but the circular chart is weird. There's the triangle, then that goofy shape with an open end. How'd they come up with that? What's wrong with using three triangles?
    With three triangles you can't rightfully connect types with their direction of integration/distintegration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Does that mean the rest of Etypes are a myth ?
    No. I can relate very much to 1w2 sp/sx, and I personally know examples of the other types.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arctures View Post
    You could arrange it on a 3x3 grid with instinct centers as one axis and object relations as the other.
    Sounds like it'd work...what are instinct centers and object relations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Sounds like it'd work...what are instinct centers and object relations?
    Oops I used "instinct" incorrectly, they're just referred to as centers.


    Anywho, I'm not too good at enneagram stuff so I'd recommend reading about it here:
    Centers: The Enneagram's Centres
    Object relations: The Enneagram & Object Relations
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    With three triangles you can't rightfully connect types with their direction of integration/distintegration.
    I haven't paid much attention to that aspect of enneagram. It doesn't make much sense. Wings have to be right next to the type, but if I'm a healthy 1w2 I'll become a 7w4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    I haven't paid much attention to that aspect of enneagram. It doesn't make much sense. Wings have to be right next to the type, but if I'm a healthy 1w2 I'll become a 7w4.
    Yeah, it doesn't make sense if you consider evolution of the wing, but I think that they mean it with keeping wing fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Yeah, it doesn't make sense if you consider evolution of the wing, but I think that they mean it with keeping wing fixed.
    Would that make me become a 7w2 or a 7w8?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arctures View Post
    Oops I used "instinct" incorrectly, they're just referred to as centers.


    Anywho, I'm not too good at enneagram stuff so I'd recommend reading about it here:
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    Thanks. Read the first one; reading the second.

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    Fuck apple juice
    naked juice is a supreme apple filler juice offender. Almost all the juices have apple as #1 ingredient. They are too sweet and have too much sugar of course.


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    If dayjoborchestra stopped making so many food references he'd be fantastic.

    More people should do what he does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    That counts for something, but the circular chart is weird. There's the triangle, then that goofy shape with an open end. How'd they come up with that? What's wrong with using three triangles?
    The author of this article about Directional Theory seems to agree with you that three triangles would form a much neater pattern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiss View Post
    The author of this article about Directional Theory seems to agree with you that three triangles would form a much neater pattern.

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    The descriptions of 6 are often poor

    "A capricornish social person who clings desperately to authority figues."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    capricornish
    I am almost certain that's not a word.

    Also I'm an Aquarius what do I do
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    It is now.

    I am actually a cappy, but w/e.

    Vedic notwithstanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    E6 doesn't correspont to anything socionics-related; I've heard that any type can be an E6.
    There's an odd number of enneagram types, which makes comparrisons unnecessarily complex and makes lining them up by twos impossible.
    I don't know any E6s.

    Eliminate the outlier. If you are an enneagram 6, you are either mistyped or a myth.
    Well, I think I'm a 6...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    Well, I think I'm a 6...
    I'm a 6, too...to an extent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    The descriptions of 6 are often poor

    "A capricornish social person who clings desperately to authority figues."
    Too funny. I am a Capricorn and most certainly a 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VixenDogFox View Post
    I may be a 6...
    yep, 6w7
    The saddest ESFj

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    was it? Well I know it is, so

    Every ESE I have known has either been either a 2, a 3w2, or 6w7. I thought I knew some 7s, but I may have been mistaken...

    what's your instinctual thingy?
    The saddest ESFj

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