Aspergers related to socionics type?

[xixi]

....certain personality types have a much more similar resemblance to the Aspergers phenotype than others. for instance, i can imagine an INTj who has Aspergers, but not an ESFj with Aspergers. the later seems like a conflation of opposing, mutually exclusive entities, like a round square or something - not possible.

INTjs seem to be the socionics type that have the closest resemblance to the Aspergers phenotype. followed perhaps by ISTp...
my question is whether individuals with Aspergers can be classified into socionics types, given that they do not have 'normal' brain functioning?

[1981slater]

Ti+Ne
Ne+Ti

[Jarno]

I know an INFP guy at my work who has all the traits of a light autistic. I don't know whether it might be called asperger.

He walks on his toes. He's unnecessary honest. Makes contact with others in good manners though in a strange way. He's above average intelligent. Has had 1 girlfriend in 10 years or so, for one day. He takes everything litteraly, so sometimes you have to add 'i was just joking at that' or 'that was meant sarcastic'. Has a good memory, knows postal codes of customers etc. Makes many mistakes at doing his job.

[HaveANiceLife]

Maybe he's ILI, not IEI. IEI has creative which is responsible for understanding people's emotional state and emotional atmosphere in environment. and asperger is an oxymoron.

[Jarno]

Maybe he's ILI, not IEI. IEI has creative which is responsible for understanding people's emotional state and emotional atmosphere in environment. and asperger is an oxymoron.

You really think you can type someone you've never met, using a questionable assumption, vs me who has worked with him the last 5 years...?

He's totally focussed on people, but just doesn't understands them quite well. Ever thought about that possibility...

[crazedrat]

in order to properly diagnose aspergers you need to interact with a clear case of it and not read categorical descriptions of it. it seems to be quickly becoming overdiagnosed

[Jarno]

I kind of agree.

There are lot's of things in this world that you would expect to not occur, that don't seem logical etc.

Yet, they occur...

That could mean that your understanding is flawed at a certain part. Which is in this case not unthinkable, since I assume none of us is an expert on asperger or autism, and the relation of information elements in regard to autism are unknown. I rather rely on what I actually see, then what one expects to see.

[tcaudilllg]

Aspergers is a problem of not assuming a subjective component in a person who has it. Seeing people as objects without also seeing them as "souls".

Very few such people actually exist. Most people's shadow functions do, quite frankly, see people in this way. An aspergers sufferer, in contrast, observes the subjective element of a person by means of their shadow. This is why the syndrome tends to abate after the sufferer reaches adulthood.

For an aspergers person to not see the "person" in another at all would require a problem of inability to assimilate to the shadow.

The aspergers condition may be modeled with Model B-contra.

[ArchonAlarion]

I kind of agree.

=l

[silverchris9]

Ni and Ti correlate the most to what I know of aspergers. Fe correlates the least.

EDIT: It is nevertheless possible to have someone with aspergers of any type, I suspect, and besides that, an IEI, having Ni as their first function, could just be overdependent on Ni and ignore Fe.

[Khamelion]

it's an environmental condition, which for me is one of those things that just clearly clashes with the socionics theory in general.

[Reuben]

Hmm. I disagree tcaud.

People can heal others, but only to a certain extent.

Those who are unwell must work with those who are well so that they can make ends meet.

Have you played Spore? It's something like the social function during creature level. If you want to make a friend, you need to input enough compatible social energy to meet the point where your potential friend is at after he or she has input his or her own social energy. Usually this is done simultaneously. Likewise, to 'heal' an aspie, you must accept his or her energy and input your own in a similar, acceptable manner.

Perhaps, this is what you mean by 'treatment'. In that case, I agree with you.

[chrys]

What Tcaudillg said basically sums up why I feel LII. Ti is synonymous with what he says, at least to me.

[The Reality Denialist]

I heard of awkward guy who made scoring list of all the girls in school and after that bluntly asked highest scorer out based on solely that criteria. He wanted to accomplish relational task he was told to consider.

I think this sounds LIE with Asperger's.

Anyways Gulenko has often put under autism. Well, sure those types may sound like ones. Highest form of logical autism can be found in IEI's. It looks so unbelievable when they hammer that logical point across.

Then I was looking at info from Richard Feynman. Some people thought that it was sign of his autism when he told in a correspondence where they compared their own offspring that his girl was not into boys yet (apparently child - info that was embedded in the letter) which was an obvious joke. Labeling someone autistic made "diagnostician" sound much more autistic than the one she was trying to diagnose.

I'm sure everyone is familiar with somene's intuitive autism (begins with S).

[Bertrand]

people worship Ni but I'm pretty sure its more like a demon society exists to keep a lid on

they're just a bunch of satanists hanging around and if their little summoning circle worked they'd be the first ones devoured

[wasp]

Ni is useless I agree