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    I think names like "Seeker", "Analyst" or "Critic" really don't fit.
    Let's see if we can find better names...

    ENTp - infant
    INTj - smartass
    ESFj - philanderer
    ISFp - babe

    ENFj - dictator
    INFp - fantast
    ESTp - procurer
    ISTj - gobshite

    ENTj - robber baron
    INTp - party pooper
    ESFp - nut case
    ISFj - couch potato

    ENFp - slob
    INFj - crybaby
    ESTj - bonehead
    ISTp - deadbeat

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    We could also try to find a bad person for every type. But that might me more difficult.

    ENTp -
    INTj - Osama Bin Laden
    ESFj -
    ISFp - Michael Jackson

    ENFj - Adolf Hitler
    INFp -
    ESTp - Mike Tyson
    ISTj - Heinrich Himmler

    ENTj -
    INTp - Albert Speer
    ESFp -
    ISFj -

    ENFp -
    INFj -
    ESTj - Josef Stalin
    ISTp -

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDo View Post
    I think names like "Seeker", "Analyst" or "Critic" really don't fit.
    Let's see if we can find better names...

    ENTp - infant
    INTj - smartass
    ESFj - philanderer
    ISFp - babe

    ENFj - dictator
    INFp - fantast
    ESTp - procurer
    ISTj - gobshite

    ENTj - robber baron
    INTp - party pooper
    ESFp - nut case
    ISFj - couch potato

    ENFp - slob
    INFj - crybaby
    ESTj - bonehead
    ISTp - deadbeat
    nice :-)

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    cheguevera returns.
    INTp

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    cheguevera returns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratXII View Post
    cheguevera returns.
    It's about time. I need his autograph.

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    These are the ones I've always been using.

    ENTp - Inventor
    INTj - Analyst
    ESFj - Enthusiast
    ISFp - Mediator

    ENFj - Actor
    INFp - Romantic
    ESTp - Conqueror
    ISTj - Inspector

    ENTj - Entrepreneur
    INTp - Critic
    ESFp - Diplomat
    ISFj - Guardian

    ENFp - Psychologist
    INFj - Empath
    ESTj - Director
    ISTp - Craftsman

    Are they the ones you're trying to replace?

    ESTj
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    Brilliand's Younger Sister
    Squishy's Older Sister

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    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    First people who come to mind for me for each type...


    Alpha:

    ESFj -- Jay Leno
    INTj -- ESPN NFL Insider John Clayton (lol)
    ENTp -- Jeff Goldblum (lol)
    ISFp -- Josh Groban

    Beta:

    ENFj -- Bono
    ISTj -- Michael Jordan
    ESTp -- Madonna
    INFp -- Kurt Cobain

    Gamma:

    ENTj -- Bill Gates
    ISFj -- Johnny Carson
    ESFp -- David Lee Roth
    INTp -- Ben Stein

    (A David Lee Roth-Ben Stein dual conversation would be great.)

    Delta:

    ESTj -- Biz Stone
    INFj -- Senator Joe Liebermann
    ENFp -- Kylie Minogue
    ISTp -- Charles Bronson

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    JuJu, I've heard of four of those.

    ESTj
    1w2 sp/so 1-2-6
    Brilliand's Younger Sister
    Squishy's Older Sister

    Johari Nohari

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    These are the ones I've always been using.

    ENTp - Inventor
    INTj - Analyst
    ESFj - Enthusiast
    ISFp - Mediator

    ENFj - Actor
    INFp - Romantic
    ESTp - Conqueror
    ISTj - Inspector

    ENTj - Entrepreneur
    INTp - Critic
    ESFp - Diplomat
    ISFj - Guardian

    ENFp - Psychologist
    INFj - Empath
    ESTj - Director
    ISTp - Craftsman

    Are they the ones you're trying to replace?
    Here's the ones I like:

    ENTp - Seeker -- I like this better than Inventor, simply because not all ILEs are inventors. Also, it sounds cooler.
    INTj - Analyst
    ESFj - Enthusiast
    ISFp - Peacemaker -- I prefer Peacemaker, mostly because it reminds me of the gun.

    ENFj - Dramatist -- my own suggestion. I think it captures the essence of EIE better than either "Actor" or "Mentor".
    INFp - Lyricist When I think IEI, I think "poet".
    ESTp - Conqueror -- I also like "Marshall", just because of the mental picture it conjures up. However, like "Inventor", it seems too specific to be a name for a whole type.
    ISTj - Inspector

    ENTj - Entrepreneur
    INTp - Critic
    ESFp - Ambassador -- This generates a more vivid mental image for me than "Diplomat".
    ISFj - Guardian

    ENFp - ???
    INFj - ???
    ESTj - ??? -- I honestly don't like most of the Delta names, other than Craftsman. They don't seem very representative of the types to me. Can't think of any better ones at the moment, though.
    ISTp - Craftsman



    And, in the spirit of the thread, here is my attempt at describing the types as represented by High School Stereotypes:

    ENTp - Dork
    INTj - Geek
    ESFj - Cheerleader
    ISFp - Art Kid

    ENFj - Drama Club Kid
    INFp - Stoner
    ESTp - Jock
    ISTj - Bully

    ENTj - Model UN Nerd
    INTp - Video Game Nerd
    ESFp - Socialite Partier
    ISFj - Snooty Kid

    ENFp - Ditz
    INFj - The Invisible Kid
    ESTj - Brown-noser
    ISTp - Loner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    JuJu, I've heard of four of those.
    LOL!!!

    yeah, everyone should fill in their own w/ people they know haha... those were just the first ppl who came to mind

    P.S. Krig, you could say that about INFp, ISTj--a bunch of different types... The ISTps I remember were in the wood-shop

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    INTj: the developer

    ESTj: the professional

    INFj: the saint

    ENTp: the front-runner

    all that pops to mind so far.

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    My stereotypical, yet fun, attempt:

    Ne Kin - Imaginative/explorative
    Se Kin - Predatory
    Ni kin - Spiritual
    Si Kin - Aesthetic/whimsical
    Te Kin - Enterprising
    Fe Kin -Catalyzing
    Ti Kin - Investigative
    Fi Kin - Ethical

    Ne Business - Scholar
    Se Business - Guardian
    Ni Business - Visionary
    Si Business - Supporter
    Te Business - Historian
    Fe Business - Mediator
    Ti Business - Architect
    Fi Business - Socialite

    ENTp: Imaginative-Architect = Inventor (I like seeker too)
    INTj: Investigative-Scholar = Analyst
    ISFp: Aesthetic-Mediator = Artisan
    ESFj: Catalyzing-Supporter = Enthusiast

    ESTp: Predatory-Architect = Conqueror (Fountainhead)
    ISTj: Investigative-Guardian = Detective
    INFp: Spiritual-Mediator = Shaman/Mystic
    ENFj: Catalyzing-Visionary = Orator (Actor)

    ESFp: Predatory-Socialite = Politician
    ISFj: Ethical-Guardian = Journalist (social commentator-ish)
    INTp: Spiritual-Historian = Theologian (Mythologist, Chronologist)
    ENTj: Enterprising-Visionary = Entrepreneur (Pioneer)

    ENFp: Imaginative-Socialite = Psychologist
    INFj: Ethical-Scholar = Humanist (Empath)
    ISTp: Aesthetic-Historian = Steward
    ESTj: Enterprising-Supporter = Administrator (Director)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    P.S. Krig, you could say that about INFp, ISTj--a bunch of different types... The ISTps I remember were in the wood-shop
    True. I like your wood-shop idea better anyway.

    [Edit: Archon, those are really cool. I like.]
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    isfp: gay
    entp: straight
    esfj: tranny
    intj: bi

    infp: gay
    estp: straight
    istj: bi
    enfj: tranny

    isfj: gay
    entj: straight
    esfp: bi
    intp: tranny

    estj: straight
    infj: gay
    enfp: bi
    istp: tranny

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    Hah, I like deadbeat.

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    Ti-ENTp: mad scientist
    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    And, in the spirit of the thread, here is my attempt at describing the types as represented by High School Stereotypes:

    INTj - Geek
    ENFj - Drama Club Kid
    INTp - Video Game Nerd
    These are things I've been known as. But never a Ditz, even though I tried to play that image up during and after my ESFj self-typing stage

    In fact, there's probably a new social role at my school thanks to my influence: The Roddy. The crazy kid everyone knows, if only by virtue of being able to hear him from the other side of the school over the dull roar of a busy lunchtime.

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    A lot of these are pretty darn fitting, in my opinion:

    Ne-ENTp - Inventor
    Ti-ENTp - Selector
    Ti-INTj - Systemizer
    Ne-INTj - Reseacher
    Fe-ESFj - Popular Writer
    Si-ESFj - Trustee
    Si-ISFp - Hedonist
    Fe-ISFp - Harmonizer

    Fe-ENFj - Tutor
    Ni-ENFj - Actor
    Ni-INFp - Idealist
    Fe-INFp - Diplomat
    Se-ESTp - Coordinator
    Ti-ESTp - Organizer
    Ti-ISTj - Instructor
    Se-ISTj - Controller

    Te-ENTj - Reformer
    Ni-ENTj - Strategist
    Ni-INTp - Philosopher
    Te-INTp - Expert
    Se-ESFp - Tactician
    Fi-ESFp - Businessman
    Fi-ISFj - Moralist
    Se-ISFj - Traditionalist

    Ne-ENFp - Advisor
    Fi-ENFp - Improvisator
    Fi-INFj - Psychologist
    Ne-INFj - Teacher
    Te-ESTj - Manager
    Si-ESTj - Technologist
    Si-ISTp - Designer
    Te-ISTp - Rationalizer

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Ne-ENFp - Advisor
    Si-ISTp - Designer
    Check and check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    A lot of these are pretty darn fitting, in my opinion:

    Ne-ENTp - Inventor
    Ti-ENTp - Selector
    Ti-INTj - Systemizer
    Ne-INTj - Reseacher
    Fe-ESFj - Popular Writer
    Si-ESFj - Trustee
    Si-ISFp - Hedonist
    Fe-ISFp - Harmonizer

    Fe-ENFj - Tutor
    Ni-ENFj - Actor
    Ni-INFp - Idealist
    Fe-INFp - Diplomat
    Se-ESTp - Coordinator
    Ti-ESTp - Organizer
    Ti-ISTj - Instructor
    Se-ISTj - Controller

    Te-ENTj - Reformer
    Ni-ENTj - Strategist
    Ni-INTp - Philosopher
    Te-INTp - Expert
    Se-ESFp - Tactician
    Fi-ESFp - Businessman
    Fi-ISFj - Moralist
    Se-ISFj - Traditionalist

    Ne-ENFp - Advisor
    Fi-ENFp - Improvisator
    Fi-INFj - Psychologist
    Ne-INFj - Teacher
    Te-ESTj - Manager
    Si-ESTj - Technologist
    Si-ISTp - Designer
    Te-ISTp - Rationalizer
    Those are really good.

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    Honestly, anything's fucking better than "Auto Mechanic".

    While I have the most respect for all car mechanics (My dad was one), I think it's really stupid to categorize a whole group of people into an occupation.

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    yeah, although my SLI brother wants to be a mechanic. my SLI dad is a doctor. kind of like a mechanic for bodies.
    INTp

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    SLI career choices I know of: dentist, IT, library and information services, fashion and textile design, other artsy stuff, musician.

    As in, career or study options SLIs I know have nominated. IT actually got two individual hits, actually... but then again, so many people wind up there

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    Those are really good.
    they are the subtype names of medgved and olgovoaijoaitewahtaphta

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratXII View Post
    yeah, although my SLI brother wants to be a mechanic. my SLI dad is a doctor. kind of like a mechanic for bodies.
    and i wanna be a mechanic for computers.....


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    INTj - smartass
    INTj - Geek
    INTj - Analyst
    I can attest to the accuracy of all of these.
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    I know more LSE and LSI mechanics than I do SLI, off the top of my head. Mechanics can be merry.

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    I like a lot of the ideas here, though I think the original names are fine as they are.

    Some others (not all my ideas)...

    EIE- Visionary / Motivator
    LSI- Strategist / Tactician
    SLE- Enforcer
    IEI- Harmonizer

    SEI- (I agree with whomever said Hedonist, perfect term for them IMO)
    ILE- Seeker
    ESE- Gatherer
    LII- Analyst / Researcher / Finder

    SLI- Technician
    IEE- Improviser
    LSE- Taskmaster / Administrator
    EII- Empathist / Humanist

    LIE- Industrialist / Entrepreneur
    ESI- Moralist / Conductor
    SEE- Socialite / Ambassador
    ILI- Philosopher / Logician
    EII INFj
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    First people who come to mind for me for each type...


    Alpha:

    ESFj -- Jay Leno
    INTj -- ESPN NFL Insider John Clayton (lol)
    ENTp -- Jeff Goldblum (lol)
    ISFp -- Josh Groban

    Beta:

    ENFj -- Bono
    ISTj -- Michael Jordan
    ESTp -- Madonna
    INFp -- Kurt Cobain

    Gamma:

    ENTj -- Bill Gates
    ISFj -- Johnny Carson
    ESFp -- David Lee Roth
    INTp -- Ben Stein

    (A David Lee Roth-Ben Stein dual conversation would be great.)

    Delta:

    ESTj -- Biz Stone
    INFj -- Senator Joe Liebermann
    ENFp -- Kylie Minogue
    ISTp -- Charles Bronson
    Madonna - Ti-ISTj
    Michael Jordan - Ni-INFp
    Obama - Ne-ENFp
    Goldie Hawn - Se-ESFp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huitzilopochtli View Post
    Madonna - Ti-ISTj
    I think that I've read somewhere that there is general consensus that she is an ESTP-Ti

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    I think that I've read somewhere that there is general consensus that she is an ESTP-Ti
    you are probably right

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    Obama - Ne-ENFp
    Obama is Fi-ENFp I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDo View Post
    I think names like "Seeker", "Analyst" or "Critic" really don't fit.
    Let's see if we can find better names...

    ENTp - infant
    INTj - smartass
    ESFj - philanderer
    ISFp - babe

    ENFj - dictator
    INFp - fantast
    ESTp - procurer
    ISTj - gobshite

    ENTj - robber baron
    INTp - party pooper
    ESFp - nut case
    ISFj - couch potato

    ENFp - slob
    INFj - crybaby
    ESTj - bonehead
    ISTp - deadbeat
    "One that procures: a procurer of free tickets to concerts." hmmmm, I like that definition.

    How is an LSI a gobshite?
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    ESE: the emotive fool
    LII: the wise pansy
    ILE: the mad scientist
    SEI: the feel-good lab assistant

    EIE: the revolutionary
    LSI: the fool for propaganda
    SLE: the logistics king (even if female)
    IEI: the ...

    LIE: the wimpy CEO
    ESI: the has-your-back secretary
    SEE: the irrational yet inspiring loyalist
    ILI: the cute yet pathetic crank

    LSE: the competent yet short-sighted hands-on guy (even if female)
    EII: the one who puts up with him
    IEE: the fun wanna-be professional
    SLI: the wishes-he-wasn't-so-awkward guy (even if female)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    "One that procures: a procurer of free tickets to concerts." hmmmm, I like that definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    SLE: the logistics king (even if female)
    Si creatives are the best at logistics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Si creatives are the best at logistics.
    Even Alpha Si's?

    Logistics: the planning, implementation, and coordination of the details of a business or other operation. Coordination, engineering, masterminding, organization, planning, plans, strategy, systematization = + Beta than Delta ST ability
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    My ESE boss is great at planning vacations, picnics, camping trips, etc. He can handle the type of logistics I was talking about, but he's not good at it and is stressed out by it.

    LSE's I know tend to overlook important things when dealing with logistics. Like pulling the necessary permits and stuff.
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