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    Eglit IM, Pyatnitskii VV

    Study fears in one-dimensional functions

    "Filled with fear of man can be a very brave man. It can create around themselves armor. He can become fearless devil just to show that he was not afraid, just to show others that he was not afraid. And if he gets into danger, he can deceive himself that is not afraid. But even the most courageous man is afraid. All his courage around the outside, deep inside he was trembling "
    Osho "Fear"

    Fear, no doubt, is one of the brightest psychological phenomena. The importance of the phenomenon of fear can be judged by the permanent interest of the religion, philosophy, psychology, esoteric sciences, art and advertising. On the other hand, the complexity of the subject is that in the modern natural sciences, despite many approaches, there is no common understanding of this phenomenon, but many researchers disagree, even in its definition.
    Here are some definitions of fear of academic sources, which can be conventionally regarded as generally accepted.

    Fear - an emotion that arises in situations of threats to biological or social survival of the individual and directed at the source of real or imagined danger. [1]
    Fear - the state of strong anxiety, restlessness, mental confusion before any danger, misfortune, etc.; fear. [2]

    Authors of this article the phenomenon of fear interested for several reasons:
    - Fear is the emotional expression and manifestation of mental activity, apparently carrying the same strong functional load, meaning that it would be interesting to interpret in terms of Socionics.
    - The theme of fear is one of the most frequently encountered in the situation socionic diagnosis, so a good understanding of the phenomenon of fear can be productive in determining TIM psyche.
    - An interesting possibility of practical use socionic approach to the phenomenon of fear, for example, through advisory work.

    The purpose of this paper is to propose a possible theoretical approach to the phenomenon of fear in terms of system Socionics, as well as to present practical materials that may be of interest to the subject of study. In conclusion, the authors offer a method of using a list of fears for the preparation of a working hypothesis TIM psyche in the diagnostic interview.

    Theoretical background

    One of the points of view in considering the psychology of fear as a mechanism of protection. The emotional pain (fear), is a protective mechanism of the psyche, as well as physical pain is a protective mechanism of the physical body. Deeply and comprehensively covered in the theme of fear of esoteric teachings. It is believed that all the fears - there are different views of deep-seated fear - fear of death. Fear - a common human emotion (in this case, we mean no aspect Jae, and signals the mind to control the activity of organisms).
    In this article we will consider the phenomenon of fear of socionic point of view. During typing, the experts were seen repeated scoring of fears of low-dimensional functions. In accordance with the system model of the structure of the psyche, small functions are in the control unit, decide to "my problem is / is not my problem", "I can / can not. [3] If the task for execution, control is transferred to the multidimensional unit. In this paper, the authors proceed from the idea that man controls (force it to start moving in any direction, take any action) 2 principle: pain and pleasure. The pain the man leaves, the pleasure is drawn. The global mechanism is reflected in the Model A at the level of low-dimensional control blocks: superid - pleasure (f.5 - suggestion), superego - the pain (f.4 - THC). We assume that the mechanism of fear is linked with the energy of the system (mind, body). Less effective ways of processing information - more energy-intensive. Fear - is a mechanism for the disposal of the psyche of the energy-intensive areas. Normally, the body has a tendency to avoid the recurrence of pain and having the experience of psychic pain, creates a zone of fear to designate the area of avoidance.

    Experimental Materials

    While working on the definition of TEAM psyche site SHSS (Школа Системной Соционики) were accumulated working materials, when considering that it was observed that there were fears in one-dimensional functions (Illustration 4 and 5). SHSS Working Group decided to investigate this question in detail. The study was conducted on respondents whose TIM known and tested, knowledgeable model A, review your TIM and watching their reactions with socionic point of view, this introspection specialists in Socionics. Attended by 27 people. Respondents were asked to describe their fears in one-dimensional functions. Under pain was invited to understand the uneasy feeling of expectation that you can get in this aspect the situation. Do not just unpleasant, but sadly, dreary, oppressive state. Fear = heartache.
    In this study, we considered one-dimensional functions, because these features are most clearly (clearly) are manifested fears, though not rule out fears of other small size features.

    Description of observations

    Here are observations obtained during the study period, in the form of working notes.

    Fear is not only in the fourth, and fifth in the function

    From the theoretical premises of the most fear could be expected in the fourth function. What is clearly reflected in the name of the fourth function, as "painful. Morbidity causes fear, fear of causing pain.
    Contrary to expectations, the greatest number of fears of the most "painful" in the model - fax. 4, as a result of the survey, we received no fewer manifestations of fears f.5. The question arises, what can be wrong with such a psychologically "attractive" block - superide? We assume that this - the fear of loss of pleasure, individually meaningful (value), the desire to retain the desired situation.
    Sometimes respondents described the fear of the fourth and fifth of the functions together - two as one. One can assume that the cases falling in the aspect of the situation both one-dimensional functions is a strong blow to the psyche and are remembered as terrifying. There were descriptions of situations on the two functions of a macro aspects (eg, BE and Jae). Often description sounds from all fear of a small block (or superego superid).

    LII: "I thought about a fifth (function). Rather, fear not for myself - what you do wrong, and fears, stokes the fourth, only to Jae. That is: I'm not the gift said that terrible aggressive crowd than the individual. One person - there is a faint hope that it will be possible to reason (in BC, apparently). A crowd of people are - when the arguments of reason can not hear, is the herd instinct. And it soon - energy, with angry and aggressive, they want to splash out. Of passion. I think this is a minus for Jae, who wants to avoid, and which compresses and anxiety, and fear. "

    SEI: "Yes, the fear of mistakes tsp exactly is! But again, is in conjunction with the CHI (or BL) - all will see how I stuffed a fool.

    FEL: "But when" doing nothing "attacks longing of empty pastime (eg, away). There is a fear of being late, I hate when someone is late. I do not like surprises. I hate it when something happens, and I still do not know what it was all over, and I someone starts to tell everything in detail, how all this happened. Blin, first epilogue that I already knew what it was all over, and then normally could hear how it was, but I'm in the same voltage until the end of the story did not live that long. So I always made from the end to tell. " (Block BI and Jae)

    Sometimes the fear of the fifth function of the perceived stronger than the fear of the fourth function.

    YOU: "By Jae somehow do not recall explicit fears. Compared with the CHI is definitely more confident. Or maybe I just do not understand that there is a fear of Che, can I have it and there, but I just do not know what it is so called. "

    In some of the respondents clearly the fear of the fifth function, while others - as if it is not there. What does it depend? From life experience? From the conditions in which filled the fifth function? From the number obtained by the negative experience?

    Renaming, denial and rejection, exclusion (forgetting), masked under the aspect of the multidimensional function

    There is a property of the mind to forget the terrible situation. It is difficult to immediately remember the fear, if at the moment a person is not in such a situation or event has not happened recently. Perhaps rapidly replacing the painful situation of suggestive features, as fears will hinder the fundamental problem - suggestion. Although not exclude the displacement and f.4 (see example above). These observations require additional study on a larger number of respondents.

    LII: "And by Jae - do not even know. Apparently, I have it so one-dimensional and unconscious, that memory is nothing on the subject of inadequate expression of emotions. Maybe something once and it was, but I can not remember now. Either they are out of politeness to me it is not pointed to remember.

    FEL: "I remember that sometimes I say that on the fifth (function) has no worse than fourth. I do remember that the so-evaluated this feature, but now everything seems dispersed. Memory seems to quickly erase this negative.

    Since the nature of fear is aimed at excluding or avoiding undesirable situations, it is sometimes difficult to identify the true aspect of fear under the guise of filling. There is a desire to formulate fear (rejection) in other words.

    SEI: "But the fifth is not fear, but rather a general reluctance to be assessed, the rejection of any evaluations of - neither bad nor good. No need to evaluate me! Maybe this is fear and there? "

    EII: "You know, it is not as fear works, but as a distraction. If you want to do something completely unfamiliar without clear instructions to act, it is unclear what snatch. Do not see the possible negative effects, and when confronted with them, it is not the most pleasant.

    LIE: "... No more fears, and doubts ... Postfactum is crowding out, as if there was nothing like that, especially when the experience is small it is in a particular manifestation.

    A characteristic phenomenon is the non-recognition of fear. Often during typing, we have seen the desire tipiruemogo "cover up" their small-size features a demonstration of fearlessness. It shows excessive samouvernnost in perspective. Experienced tipirovschik always tell a calm confidence of a multidimensional function of assertive, unapologetic, hard-confidence in low-dimensional functions. This protective mechanism of the psyche. Most people are not aware of this protection. He is so blind that even fully coping with the situation, argues the opposite. And pierce armor so it can be impossible (and unnecessary), while the man himself does not want to deal with their fears.

    There is an idea that other people must have the same fears. This view derives from the peculiarities of information processing one-dimensional function. Man relies only on its own experience, individual perception, can not look at the situation "through different eyes, no idea how to respond differently.

    LII: "By the fourth - the fear to face the unwarranted aggression. Suddenly. From one person - it flowers. It is terrible - this crowd. Football fans or the Nazi authorities still somehow keep track of, but here's teenage street crime, when their people 10 or more: drunk or obkurennye. This is another world, they are in another dimension ... But I think that anyone would be scared, not necessarily painful ChS-nick.

    There are cases when the true fear, which is in low-dimensional functions "masked" by the fear of a multidimensional function. There is a "translation arrow". Fear is announced with a substitution of concepts.
    Thus, initially voiced fear (sensing a second quadra) "I - a bad mother and daughter, ie I'm poor to fulfill their "duties" inherent in the social role "in the identification of the causes was the following transformation:
    "I had a situation where a child psychologist told me that I - a bad mother. This was unexpected, because I came "to pull" and not for advice and for help for the school. The situation is somewhat clouded, but I well remember my feelings after her surprise-accusatory words, they say, how well you can and all that. I left a bag deal a blow to the head, and already at home in his voice roared and beat the punching bag. Yes, nothing terrible, I like and do. In her opinion, I must and was obliged to tell his son to adoption, biological papa, a former family and so on.
    "I think I got it. My parents have two children. My elder brother is not native to my father. And it told me how terrible and shameful fact. My brother was really worried when accidentally found out about it. In addition, his brother and father at that time relations have deteriorated sharply. And mama annealed about compulsory communion with his own father. And. I was just a white-hot shame that my ex-husband was never interested in her son, even out of politeness. As if he were a leper. "

    An interesting topic for research may become a theme of fear in the dream.
    Perhaps such studies will help identify low-dimensional functions.

    ESI: "There are even a number of typical dreams. The overall plot - suddenly remembered that something must be done, but no time:
    * Exam tomorrow, I'm not ready and just remembered about the exam;
    * Need to buy train tickets, and ticket office is about to be closed;
    * Then somewhere riding on a train and came to the wrong
    * Felt that the risk can pick up the front, secure, and then suddenly she appeared behind him, but not in the stress that came behind him, and that it arose because I was, say, the second door is not locked.
    In dreams, fear usually CHI (not taken into account) + FE (no time).

    FEL: "I always sleep somewhere not have time. Eternal Nightmare ".

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    The frequency of negative experiences

    In the literature description of the effect of "pulling" a negative situation. If you're afraid, it attracts a similar situation again and again. Example socionic observations:
    "Observe the other day fear EIE for sensor systems. A neighbor (EIE) toothache. He agonized with him for a week, but did not go to the doctor. He ate a cloud of analgesics. The tooth under the crown fell ill, which is "worn out". I spoke with him, advised to go into dentistry, which is located next to our house. Say what there about prices, gave feedback. He blustered, he said that money does not matter, but he will not ask how much it would cost treatment, they say, it is humiliating (small size of ES, ashamed to ask the price, because they'll think you're poor). And then he demonstrates superidnuyu Emergencies - say, for it is not a problem - the price of treatment. So, afraid of pain. But he did not recognize. Sam can not convincingly explain why he does not go to the doctor.
    As a result, when a tooth died down a week later, he goes ... where do you think? ... Community Health Center for free treatment. He was there a tooth drilled without anesthesia directly through the crown and remove the nerve. It is said that should no longer sick. And that he received as a result? Wild pain, which was afraid. The situation is simply absurd, there is no logic in the actions (not to mention the words). But now the fear of pain and the dentist fortified even more. And the next time the situation again. After all, he had the opportunity to avoid the pain and suffering. But as he deliberately chooses the path that leads to what he fears. Now the carousel will start his new stage.

    Feature explains the reactions of one-dimensional function similar to a carousel in the frequency of events. One-dimensional function can not be off the "one-track" repetition of the experience, she sees no other way to respond, even if it helps all sides, pushing the other way. Repeatability - energy-intensive way to respond to the psyche. It is blocked by fear - fear of falling into a similar situation again.
    The lack of standards, lack of confidence, inability to assess the "right / wrong" create fertile ground for consolidation of fear in the one-dimensional functions and to "pull" such a situation again.

    FEL: "If I have the slightest suspicion that that's ridiculous (for), I just do not even deal, this option will be discarded immediately. In general, I can not "lie down" and did not do. "

    FEL: "By the fifth function does not assessed in advance. Just a reaction. So before we can not know what get a result. We can not say that now I will make myself ridiculous. But experience has shown that often in new situations still be stuck. And it is remembered. And so the expectation of new situations is sometimes uncomfortable because already received a negative experience and fear of repetition: what if again that something was not right to say, do not react ... That's all I call the fear of absurdity. Well, maybe the word does not fit, can be replaced by any other. But in general, are the same - to be a possible embarrassment in the relationship.

    Failure to follow the norms of society.

    From childhood, everyone (normal) receives a set of standards for all aspects of information: it brought up, he watches to see how people react around him. But the two-dimensional functions, even memorized standard installation in every new situation is still one-dimensional reaction - based on the individual inner feeling, sensation, experience. Naturally, the social environment, such reactions are often not satisfied, and in response to a person receives a conviction or sentence, which leads to the development of fear to come back in a similar situation.

    SEI: "only cares about how the assessed work. And work for others. If I had anything to do for themselves, the estimates are not afraid and not important. "

    FEL: "I'm afraid to offend, I'm afraid that I would not understand, I'm afraid that I will do wrong in terms of law."

    YOU: "I now fear for the mass CHI, until vibrating conveyor - I think just because there always dug a lot of negative experiences. Plus not dualization mother Dreiser with the eternal spirit "if tomorrow the war, with a terrible fear of any surprise - terribly depressed."

    "EII:-Yes, by the way, for me, one of the hardest lessons of tsp (in sewing for example) - it fix what's ugly or wrong happened. This is usually done several times and, eventually, even if the thing is over, then after such a misery for the other thing I will not take, do not want at all.
    FEL: - And I know why. Because the function is based on experience. Correction is required not to use past experiences and do things differently. On the one hand people do not know how it is different, and if they knew, he was told it often turns out again to continue itself. And the remake becomes a nightmare of incorrect repetitions of the experiment. And create a new experience becomes increasingly difficult.
    By the way, there is a technique that allows you to create a new experience on the mental level, that is, mentally go through the same situation, but to do things differently. So it just as the "stall" in the scrolling frame of the old experience, and not to overwrite a new way. "


    Psychologists say that "90% of all the fears of children born of his family and steadfastly supported it." [5] The theory of age development and filling of model A [4] shows that the undersized unit superid filled in childhood and the influence of immediate environment has a profound influence on the psyche, including the occurrence of distortion and fear.
    Board of Psychologist: "The main thing to do parents in such cases - is address the underlying causes of the improved overall anxiety of the child. To do this, look closely to the child, for themselves, to the entire family situation as a whole. Should these fears parents search in themselves and work with them. Spent his fears in children drop out automatically. [5]
    Council Socionics: Parents and teachers would be worth examining Socionics least in order to see in practice, these amazing, unusual for our "common sense" phenomena of child and adolescent ... Given the functional and aspectual structure of the age development of the psyche, in our view, extremely important in the educational and pedagogical work .... ". [4]

    What to do with fears?

    This issue is relevant always. The study of this issue suggests that the best question of the fears explored in the eastern teachings. R & D fears (through the prism of Socionics) requires further study.
    Initially, one must understand and recognize the existence of a mechanism of fear. Based on the knowledge of its model, to understand the cause of an individual fears. Second - give up the struggle with fears of self defense mechanism. Third, learn to work with fear consciously.
    While we have few examples of elaboration of fear. We offer these observations:

    Facing the fear

    EII: "Look at the fear, yet he is not amplified, look, not giving it any importance, without evaluation. At some point, fear becomes a feeling of a certain energy and disappears as such. "

    Example of use of a new experience and removing fear

    EII: "By the way, that's the fear - look like a fool I had once attended. Very afraid to ask questions, because she could not estimate what that's all they know, but it is not known. That is, just do not want to look in the eyes of others a fool. But then found an outlet for chi (with sufficient normative) that all know is impossible. And instead of being afraid to just ask. Bad experience, so that people like this and have begun to despise me for not knowing something, I did not. So now I can ask any question about the most stupid member of without any fear. Good experience have worked "

    Working through the fifth member of the function (transfer to mental function)

    EII: "By the way, I noticed how the vitality tsp. If I were not doing when I'm asked, then I later on the case at all forget. So I'm very positive attitude to the fact that I was reminded of some cases, I'll email in inbokse, while I will not do what you want. They also work as a reminder. When I go on a smoke break, then scroll constantly in my head that I should do next, that we must not forget, I make a plan for minor cases: first, that's it, then that's it, then that's it. "

    The use of Gestalt therapy for "laying the new track"

    ILE: "Yesterday, after a session of Gestalt therapy loomed understanding ... We walked up to the fact that I have, that I should almost always assert, and assert themselves in me, as you know, for + ChS-BE. It seems, then at some point the feeling that is not necessarily constantly prove myself. What a choice - you can prove myself, and do not have to do it. And when there is a choice - there is freedom. Ie can not assert, wildly straining while and fear, and be "relaxed, calm, ready to adequate perception of people." And me, on this understanding so well!
    I've been so powerfully on the BE properlo, as if I was an instrument through which I can evaluate their own and others' actions, and everything in the situation of the instrument scanning, organize, neatly stored on the future. Ie I like all the forces now on this front were thrown. And it suits me. That's written about the tool, and thought, and that proper tool for something? .. The tool is in the area of responsibility for his actions. I have right now almost gone, I had no choice, "" forced me "," could also say "No", etc. Well, the truth, and she no longer accept such excuses. So I felt better, but Here was a lighter with me? "Who else, I think. And this is a natural process, where people converge, diverge, I am fine"

    List fears

    As a result of this work was a list of fears on all aspects of information, which is proposed to use the stage hypotheses TIM mind when typing. Further research on this topic can you add more. Tipirovschiki SHSS began using the material received in the practice of determining TIM psyche. Tipiruemym invited to view the list, in which fears are collected haphazardly and without reference to the aspect of information. It is noted that tipiruemye learn "their" fears. The results depend on the ability of man to be honest with each other and from the accumulated experience of reflection. Isolation tipiruemym fears only on certain aspects of information (one or two) may indicate tipirovschiku expected one-dimensional functions tipiruemogo. It is recommended to take into account the nature of the manifestation of fear, described in the observations.
    However, it must be remembered that the mechanism of pain and pleasure is universal and works on different levels. You can meet and fear not realize itself (fear of "I"), with the universal fear of death, the ancestral unconscious fears, which often come from the block ID.

    - Fear of being rejected, ignored, not taken in a group boycott - the fear to face contempt, harassment (humiliation)
    - Betrayal of a close person (can also be exposed to BBR),
    - Fear of conflict,
    - Fear of embarrassment in relations exercise.

    - Fear of being captured by strong emotions,
    - Fear get in a situation where you will pour strong negative emotions or inappropriate positive, while there will not be able to leave
    - Fear of violent emotions
    - Fear of negative emotions.

    - Confusion, uncertainty and "hang" when you have something to do the BC, but not,
    - Uncertainty: while I have it right, what do I have the right, which then rules as these rules interpret this situation?
    - Fear of status, whether you have the right,
    - Fear of mental assessment
    - Fear of the uncertain situation in the system, its place in society.

    - Fear of incompetence,
    - Fear of undertaking new business,
    - Helplessness in many cases is impossible to determine with what to do
    - Fear of responsibility to others for work
    - Fear that something is not taken into account, do not finish it,
    - Fear of looking unprofessional, not to deal with the business situation,
    - Fear of evaluation as a specialist

    - Fear of non-occurrence of events
    - Fear of unpredictability,
    - Fear of passing time,
    - Fear of predestination, inability to control events,
    - Fear of unpleasant "surprises" (events)
    - Fear of the prediction ( "not croak"),
    - Fear that will not happen the expected and desired.

    - Fear of deception, uncertainty,
    - Fear that is not understood,
    - Fear of "bad worthlessness, inability to do anything, achieve something, insolvency,
    - Fear of evaluation ( "I do not need to evaluate").
    - Fear of the unpredictability of their own

    - Fear of disease (unpleasant sensations)
    - Fear of evaluation of appearance,
    - Fear of old age because of concomitant senility, ugly appearance, dullness sensations.

    - Inability to stand up for themselves
    - Fear of unwarranted aggression, particularly from the group,
    - Violence
    - Fear of material loss,
    - Fear of material failure,
    - Helplessness in defending and protecting their interests,
    - Fear that I would have to fight and knows how it will end, including the fear of not calculate its strength and cripple human
    - Fear to confess not only to others but to themselves (or thinking about it) that is already ill and need to take action.


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    (Really big bump.)

    Regardless of the article's theory, in your experience do the "fears" below correlate to both the PoLR and Suggestive functions, or just one of the two?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eglit/Pyatnitskii?
    - Fear of being rejected or ignored by the group
    - Fear of facing contempt, harassment, and humiliation
    - Betrayal of those close to you
    - Fear of conflict
    - Fear of embarrassment in relational matters

    - Fear of being captured by strong emotions
    - Fear of being in a situation where you show inappropriate emotions (+/-) and can't get away
    - Fear of violent emotions
    - Fear of negative emotions

    - Confusion, uncertainty and hang-ups about what you're supposed to do
    - Uncertainty about "being right" and interpreting things correctly
    - Fear of one's status and being sure of it
    - Fear of mental assessment
    - Fear of being uncertain of one's place in "the system" and society

    - Fear of incompetence
    - Fear of undertaking new business
    - Helplessness in determining what to do
    - Fear of being responsible to others for work
    - Fear that something's unaccounted for or unfinished
    - Fear of looking unprofessional and un-business-like
    - Fear of being evaluated by an expert

    - Fear of events not occurring
    - Fear of unpredictability
    - Fear of passing time
    - Fear of predestination, inability to control events
    - Fear of unpleasant surprises
    - Fear of predictions
    - Fear of expectations and desires not happening

    - Fear of deception, uncertainty
    - Fear that's not understood
    - Fear of worthlessness, inability to achieve, insolvency
    - Fear of having to evaluate self or others
    - Fear of one's own unpredictability

    - Fear of disease and unpleasant sensations
    - Fear of evaluations of appearance
    - Fear of old age (senility, ugly appearance, dulled senses)

    - Inability to stand up for yourself
    - Fear of unwarranted aggression (esp. from the group)
    - Violence
    - Fear of material loss or failure
    - Helplessness in defending and protecting their interests
    - Fear of having to fight
    - Fear of miscalculating one's strength, thus crippling someone else
    - Fear of confessing to others (and self) that you're ill and need to take action
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    The point of PoLR is to avoid having an affect on certain things due to the prospect of unintended consequences. One has an affect on the suggestive function, and may get criticized for it, but where one feels that the PoLR puts one's friends (or self) at needless risk, the attitude for the suggestive function is that the effect MUST be had, although the consequences are perhaps to be feared. A person's friends will criticize the PoLR; however, one's conduct of the suggestive function is careful and respectful enough that its use for partisan purposes will generally be accepted.

    However, if you notice these fears pretty much hang on top of all that, because the point of the paper was to, as is the norm in socionics, to abstract to the point of getting something as general as possible without reaching beyond generalities already modeled.


    - Fear of being captured by strong emotions
    - Fear of being in a situation where you show inappropriate emotions (+/-) and can't get away
    - Fear of violent emotions
    - Fear of negative emotions

    You can fear these for two different reasons, because of their consequences and because of likely retribution. You have a responsibility before the social superego not to hurt society itself... not to hurt your friends, those who "put up" with you. Ask an IXTP, and they'll tell you that all of these things can be trouble because they can make people affiliated with people who allow them to happen look bad. So IXTPs avoid these things.

    Then there is the sense, among Ti types, that it's OK to feel all these things, but you've got to look out because you will be criticized, justly or unjustly, for feeling them in specific contexts.

    And then there is an intersection as well, where the just battle nonetheless imperils those close to oneself (such as family).

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