A sure sign that someone is intuitive? Or not?
clumsiness and absentmindedness
A sure sign that someone is intuitive? Or not?
More yes than no. However it's not a yes in itself.
Intuition at the EM level... alertedness to ideas and possibilities, at the expense of alertedness to the actual organization of your situation.
I'm both clumsy and absent-minded... my LII mother is not, nor are several other LII people I know. But, I also know many people other than myself who are LII and yet, very clumsy!
All clumsy/absentminded people are intuitive, but not all intuitives are clumsy/absentminded? maybe. I dunno.
I'm only clumsy when I have a lot on my mind. I've walked into doors, poles, chairs, etc.
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Being clumsy seems like a weak Se attribute, which would mean leading intuitive functions, Ne in particular.
I think I usually have a lot on my mind?Originally Posted by electric sheep
I'm absent minded, but rarely clumsy.
Sometimes I trip, but just the way I move around, I normally skip out of the trip.
skip out of the trip.
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Do these things cause some kind of "disconnect" from reality? I'm just interested.
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No. I'm there. I'm just... also thinking about stuff.
My ISTj brother is clumsy, but not particularly absent minded. I think Beta STs often sacrifice grace for effective (high impact) but "clumsy" approaches. Delta ST seems to be the club that is most clearly anti-clumsy.
I am both, to an extreme in both cases. it's sad.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
I find that absent mindedness is more of a lack of Si, and clumsyness is more of lack of Se.
Si awareness of physical sensations.
Se ability to affect the physical surroundings.
Intuitives will show both, but I think it gives a little more specificity to each type. You could even apply the above to sensing types and it starts to make sense.
That one I'm not sure off...
an SEE-fi girl at my work if famous for her clumsyness.
My SEE sister is clumsy too. A lot.
awareness of physical sensations is not Si (subjective sensory dynamics), you bastard.
Jung explicitly said that this was the opposite of INTROVERTED sensation.
INTROVERTED.
DEALING WITH THE SUBJECT.
Si is a reflective and associative process. Like a recreation of sensation via introspection. So, feeling the full complexity and awareness of details of a process. It builds with each new experience, adding to the plethora of mental sensation experiences that may be "tapped" on purpose, or ignited accidentally by a physical association.
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Yeah man it's pretty bad. As a ****** IEI, I'm not even made up of corporeal matter. But of ethereal fairy dust. So soft and light you can't feel it. I effect nothing. I'm just kind of this....****** phantom. I can't actually fight or move things or effect the external, objective world around me in any way whatsoever. I just kinda.....am useless. I should probably kill myself, but I can't even do that- cause I'm not physical. There's where the angst comes in and the iei emo tears cause we would off ourselves if we could, for being so ******y and non-functional but we just CAN'T cause we aren't physical at all, and everytime we try to cut our wrists the knife just goes right through the wrist all ghost like. So I can only talk to you like this instead, using a special incorporeal keyboard.
lol i cant tell if your being sarcastic.
fwiw my infp sis did say something similar although less "******ry" was involved.
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Agreed.
Not a rule, just a trend.
IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.
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I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.
I'm doing all of the above. I'm being sarcastic, and not sarcastic, I am insulting myself- as well as everybody else, at the same time. It's coming full circle.
Physical sensations is dealing with the subject. It's your personal physical sensations. Your explanation doesn't contradict what I'm saying. Whether you create them or not, they are physical sensations.
As for ESFps being clumsy, clumsiness may not be related to Se. I know a potential ESFp who also is clumsy.
Sure, but the image you conjure up with "physical sensations" is grandma's cookies and a beach resort.
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