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    Default clumsiness and absentmindedness

    A sure sign that someone is intuitive? Or not?
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    More yes than no. However it's not a yes in itself.

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    Intuition at the EM level... alertedness to ideas and possibilities, at the expense of alertedness to the actual organization of your situation.

    I'm both clumsy and absent-minded... my LII mother is not, nor are several other LII people I know. But, I also know many people other than myself who are LII and yet, very clumsy!

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    All clumsy/absentminded people are intuitive, but not all intuitives are clumsy/absentminded? maybe. I dunno.

    I'm only clumsy when I have a lot on my mind. I've walked into doors, poles, chairs, etc.
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    Being clumsy seems like a weak Se attribute, which would mean leading intuitive functions, Ne in particular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by electric sheep View Post
    All clumsy/absentminded people are intuitive, but not all intuitives are clumsy/absentminded? maybe. I dunno.

    I'm only clumsy when I have a lot on my mind. I've walked into doors, poles, chairs, etc.
    I think I usually have a lot on my mind?
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    I'm absent minded, but rarely clumsy.

    Sometimes I trip, but just the way I move around, I normally skip out of the trip.

    skip out of the trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I think I usually have a lot on my mind?
    Do these things cause some kind of "disconnect" from reality? I'm just interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by electric sheep View Post
    Do these things cause some kind of "disconnect" from reality? I'm just interested.
    No. I'm there. I'm just... also thinking about stuff.
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    My ISTj brother is clumsy, but not particularly absent minded. I think Beta STs often sacrifice grace for effective (high impact) but "clumsy" approaches. Delta ST seems to be the club that is most clearly anti-clumsy.

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    I find that absent mindedness is more of a lack of Si, and clumsyness is more of lack of Se.

    Si awareness of physical sensations.
    Se ability to affect the physical surroundings.

    Intuitives will show both, but I think it gives a little more specificity to each type. You could even apply the above to sensing types and it starts to make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azeroffs View Post
    and clumsyness is more of lack of Se.
    That one I'm not sure off...

    an SEE-fi girl at my work if famous for her clumsyness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    That one I'm not sure off...

    an SEE-fi girl at my work if famous for her clumsyness.
    My SEE sister is clumsy too. A lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azeroffs View Post
    I find that absent mindedness is more of a lack of Si, and clumsyness is more of lack of Se.

    Si awareness of physical sensations.
    Se ability to affect the physical surroundings.

    Intuitives will show both, but I think it gives a little more specificity to each type. You could even apply the above to sensing types and it starts to make sense.
    awareness of physical sensations is not Si (subjective sensory dynamics), you bastard.

    Jung explicitly said that this was the opposite of INTROVERTED sensation.

    INTROVERTED.

    DEALING WITH THE SUBJECT.

    Si is a reflective and associative process. Like a recreation of sensation via introspection. So, feeling the full complexity and awareness of details of a process. It builds with each new experience, adding to the plethora of mental sensation experiences that may be "tapped" on purpose, or ignited accidentally by a physical association.
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    Yeah man it's pretty bad. As a faggot IEI, I'm not even made up of corporeal matter. But of ethereal fairy dust. So soft and light you can't feel it. I effect nothing. I'm just kind of this....faggot phantom. I can't actually fight or move things or effect the external, objective world around me in any way whatsoever. I just kinda.....am useless. I should probably kill myself, but I can't even do that- cause I'm not physical. There's where the angst comes in and the iei emo tears cause we would off ourselves if we could, for being so faggoty and non-functional but we just CAN'T cause we aren't physical at all, and everytime we try to cut our wrists the knife just goes right through the wrist all ghost like. So I can only talk to you like this instead, using a special incorporeal keyboard.

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    lol i cant tell if your being sarcastic.

    fwiw my infp sis did say something similar although less "faggotry" was involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    More yes than no. However it's not a yes in itself.
    Agreed.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

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    I'm doing all of the above. I'm being sarcastic, and not sarcastic, I am insulting myself- as well as everybody else, at the same time. It's coming full circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Yeah man it's pretty bad. As a faggot IEI, I'm not even made up of corporeal matter. But of ethereal fairy dust. So soft and light you can't feel it. I effect nothing. I'm just kind of this....faggot phantom. I can't actually fight or move things or effect the external, objective world around me in any way whatsoever. I just kinda.....am useless. I should probably kill myself, but I can't even do that- cause I'm not physical. There's where the angst comes in and the iei emo tears cause we would off ourselves if we could, for being so faggoty and non-functional but we just CAN'T cause we aren't physical at all, and everytime we try to cut our wrists the knife just goes right through the wrist all ghost like. So I can only talk to you like this instead, using a special incorporeal keyboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    awareness of physical sensations is not Si (subjective sensory dynamics), you bastard.

    Jung explicitly said that this was the opposite of INTROVERTED sensation.

    INTROVERTED.

    DEALING WITH THE SUBJECT.

    Si is a reflective and associative process. Like a recreation of sensation via introspection. So, feeling the full complexity and awareness of details of a process. It builds with each new experience, adding to the plethora of mental sensation experiences that may be "tapped" on purpose, or ignited accidentally by a physical association.
    Physical sensations is dealing with the subject. It's your personal physical sensations. Your explanation doesn't contradict what I'm saying. Whether you create them or not, they are physical sensations.

    As for ESFps being clumsy, clumsiness may not be related to Se. I know a potential ESFp who also is clumsy.
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    Sure, but the image you conjure up with "physical sensations" is grandma's cookies and a beach resort.
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