what do you think, alpha?
Love, Alpha Style
what do you think, alpha?
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
I like this one
The saddest ESFj
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Yeah, I would agree. A good example of what Alpha is like when it's being serious.Originally Posted by Blaze
Quaero Veritas.
This video reminds me of When Harry Met Sally. But yes, I do think that this is a good representation of serious Alpha love.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
Well it seems only appropriate that a Canadian musician be the best person to express Alpha love
And I love that song by Leonard Cohen <3
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
I don't need viagra; I have RUSH.
The end is nigh
idk, this video made me feel embarassed. Oh, my love for you is so passionate I'm going to juxtapose a burning violin in here. Here's the lace blowing wistfully in the wind, here are the touching sepia portraits...and I happen to be pouring water over my wife's head now as a symbol of everlasting love. D'oh! I could hardly get over it. Wouldn't she be annoyed or something? Like GTFO dude, I already spend as much time with you as it is, don't follow me into the bathtub or I'll kick your ass.
To me the imagery is far too corny. I can't relate to this red velvet age of Steve's imaginary steak bar. This isn't "timeless" material; not everyone has the ballroom and the padded walls that look like a mattress (??), and my life is curiously absent of the certain brand of middle aged men that happen to enjoy going around singing in tuxes. Perhaps Leonard Cohen can send me one of them through the post.
My Delta parents would love it, they have music like this on the radio playing in the background all the time. They'd probably mourn the "good old days" aristocratically and Dad would comment on some interesting obscure fact about how Canadian culture is morally superior.
Anyway, I don't even know what I'm saying. Betas get rape and BDSM while Deltas bake cookies and dance around in feathered fields while a faucet drip drip drips in unsurpassed clarity. Hoodrat and his dual probably get off submission porn while driving a trolley off the edge of a skyscraper. Apparently when Alphas are serious in love they dance around while sheer linen waves in the background.
But that's boring. Can you jump on the padded mattresses/walls? I kind of want to pull one of the buttons off like Corduroy pulled the button off that white mattress in the empty department store at night before the security guard found him, wreathed Corduroy's head in the golden glow of his flashlight, and took him home.
To me "love styles" are about people, and the spidery veined solemness of the couples in the video was overshadowed by the unrealistic, overly sentimental atmosphere. I for one would like to see settings and material from a more accessible vantage of life to be incorporated into such videos. imo love makes the ordinary special, can burn into our brain images of otherwise inconsequential details, because they're associated with the person we care about. You don't need ballrooms and sparkly dresses to have romance, and the creepy sliding of the hand across the skin in slow motion thing is overdoing it; when you're in love, someone whapping you accidentally with their elbow into your stomach can seem romantic.
I'd rather eat string cheese at the bottom of a cold damp stairwell and talk earnestly about life. But maybe they can't make a video like that.
lol yeah it was a little corny.
I think Rush fits better.
6w5 so/sx Alpha NT:
When the dragons grow too mighty
To slay with pen or sword
I grow weary of the battle
And the storm I walk toward
When all around is madness
And there's no safe port in view
I long to turn my path homeward
To stop a while with you
When life becomes as barren
And as cold as winter skies
There's a beacon in the darkness
In a distant pair of eyes
In vain to search for honor
In vain to search for truth
But these things can still be given
Your love has shown me proof
The end is nigh
No, please not dragons!!We've either got waltzing around in oxytocin, or fantasy roleplaying. Can we get a little more happy medium here? Like depressing indie film that looks like real life?
edit: well, your video is cute I guess. I tend to think this sort of thing falls along the line of personal preference, though, rather than quadra..
oh well the geeky dragon shit yeah kinda.
but the message of feeling like life is a constant uphill battle in a search for truth and meaning and then finding a secure comfort (like a homebase) in a lover, is pretty consistent with alpha NT...
The end is nigh
It was really bland and commercial for my taste, except for the French Gypsy themed music, which was good, but I would have liked it more if every cafe in my town didn't have a Gypsy orchestra.
It's probably Alpha. Incidentally, my best friend in HS, this guy, Adam Sandler and Bob Dylan all look alike. They might all be ISFp or it might be a Jewish thing.
Video of ESFJ acting manipulative
Last edited by xerx; 12-14-2009 at 04:12 AM.
"Although structured as a love song, the song was in fact inspired by the Holocaust. In an interview, Cohen said of the song:'Dance Me to the End Of Love' ... it's curious how songs begin because the origin of the song, every song, has a kind of grain or seed that somebody hands you or the world hands you and that's why the process is so mysterious about writing a song. But that came from just hearing or reading or knowing that in the death camps, beside the crematoria, in certain of the death camps, a string quartet was pressed into performance while this horror was going on, those were the people whose fate was this horror also. And they would be playing classical music while their fellow prisoners were being killed and burnt. So, that music, "Dance me to your beauty with a burning violin," meaning the beauty there of being the consummation of life, the end of this existence and of the passionate element in that consummation. But, it is the same language that we use for surrender to the beloved, so that the song -- it's not important that anybody knows the genesis of it, because if the language comes from that passionate resource, it will be able to embrace all passionate activity."
ETA: Rush makes me want to punch kittens while running barefoot across broken glass and having vultures gouge my eyes out.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
Rush would be fine with you doing that.
The end is nigh
That song is scary, but I think that's kind of the point.
I just looked at what you posted. While I saw the picture of the woman, and I assumed it was a crappy pop music video, but when I saw that the title was J. Strauss - Die Fledermaus, I just knew that it had to be the "Laughing Song" that you posted. Such a good song and a fun opera. The overture is one of my all time favorites.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
"Although structured as a love song, the song was in fact inspired by the Holocaust. In an interview, Cohen said of the song:
'Dance Me to the End Of Love' ... it's curious how songs begin because the origin of the song, every song, has a kind of grain or seed that somebody hands you or the world hands you and that's why the process is so mysterious about writing a song. But that came from just hearing or reading or knowing that in the death camps, beside the crematoria, in certain of the death camps, a string quartet was pressed into performance while this horror was going on, those were the people whose fate was this horror also. And they would be playing classical music while their fellow prisoners were being killed and burnt. So, that music, "Dance me to your beauty with a burning violin," meaning the beauty there of being the consummation of life, the end of this existence and of the passionate element in that consummation. But, it is the same language that we use for surrender to the beloved, so that the song -- it's not important that anybody knows the genesis of it, because if the language comes from that passionate resource, it will be able to embrace all passionate activity."
i did not know this, explains a lot. thanks.
something about the way the couples are together, makes me think of long marriages, and having faced a lot together. the song is steady, the images emphasize care, which i imagine is meant to be healing.
alpha is not always all fun and games.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
That's a good thing, right? Because it's so intense?
The saddest ESFj
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Agreed on all counts.
Agreed.
Quaero Veritas.
I've heard the Holocaust stuff before. It's interesting and sobering, in a different context, but doesn't change my opinion of the piece. "It's not important that anybody know the genesis of it"... I guess he's trusting that the universal theme described above will come through clearly, but honestly he sounds arrogant. What if it doesn't come through universally? What if the burning violin is cheesy? Woohoo, at least I've still got the Holocaust get out of jail free card to mentally slap people into solemnity? I don't know if this is your intention but it seems like it. I've been exposed to an array of Holocaust material, and it has a time and place. This wasn't it."Although structured as a love song, the song was in fact inspired by the Holocaust. In an interview, Cohen said of the song:'Dance Me to the End Of Love' ... it's curious how songs begin because the origin of the song, every song, has a kind of grain or seed that somebody hands you or the world hands you and that's why the process is so mysterious about writing a song. But that came from just hearing or reading or knowing that in the death camps, beside the crematoria, in certain of the death camps, a string quartet was pressed into performance while this horror was going on, those were the people whose fate was this horror also. And they would be playing classical music while their fellow prisoners were being killed and burnt. So, that music, "Dance me to your beauty with a burning violin," meaning the beauty there of being the consummation of life, the end of this existence and of the passionate element in that consummation. But, it is the same language that we use for surrender to the beloved, so that the song -- it's not important that anybody knows the genesis of it, because if the language comes from that passionate resource, it will be able to embrace all passionate activity."
ETA: Rush makes me want to punch kittens while running barefoot across broken glass and having vultures gouge my eyes out.
And who says that this wasn't it? You? Why? Because you say so? Who cares if it is cheesy? Perhaps like wants it to be cheesy? Look at me throw up a bunch of questions, as if this somehow makes me sound, eh? Do I not like to sound like a contrarian? I don't know if this is your intention, but it seems like it. Please, dolphin, remove the stick from your ass and give it a rest.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
Yes, I do say that this wasn't it. Yes, this is my opinion. No, I'm not speaking for anyone else, if the disclaimers distributed throughout the posts didn't make that clear. The nature of a question being a question has little to do with the point, the content of the questions being the relevant part. I could restate them as statements and they'd still carry their essential meaning. And why am I a contrarian, because I reject your established wisdom? Oh ho ho.
Damn, someone has figured me out.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
I apologize for being defensive, it really wasn't my intention to disagree for the sake of it. It's been my experience in the pasts that people would throw the Holocaust into an argument like a grenade to gain the advantage, which seemed intellectually dishonest and unfair. However, I think your intention was simply to add a bigger context to the original video, not make a hard to respond to faux moral statement. I actually was able to enjoy the video more after I read what you wrote because it had meaning, when before it didn't seem to make much sense. Like the time period, and the style of music with violins that I had heard of through various Holocaust material. Except for I still think he's kind of arrogant for not caring to let people know about his inspiration, or at least, no one should be subtly morally bitch slapped because they didn't know, that is, it's not ethical and is also an intellectual copout for him to enforce it afterwards, or someone who is quoting his position as if they agree with it. He wasn't supposed to care, right? It's like he changed his mind and went "bwahaha" or something.Damn, someone has figured me out.
dolphin: take a chill pill. it's just a song. and a romantic one at that. because even if you remove the holocaust as a factor, marriage and life is incredibly difficult and this vid - and song - seems to find a way to look at how people find the strength to get through, together. if you don't like the song, you're entitled to your opinion. but this isn't some kind of art critic thread...it's commentary on what i think is unique about alpha.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
yes. me too
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Ok, we all know I'm pretty much a whore for the barenaked ladies, but I love this song. I think it describes my kind of love ideal:
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
The saddest ESFj
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Bret is the only man I'd ever fuck.
The end is nigh
Well, I don't think it's unique about Alpha and this is my way of saying that. Just because the style of my writing happened to be long winded and verbose like some art critic doesn't mean it's exempt from being commentary. They're not mutually exclusive.
i didn't think your post was long-winded. you criticize the video's artistic characteristics, which i think is a separate issue from whether or not the vid represents alpha values.
having said that, you would make an incisive art critic, your writing is quite compelling.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
hilarious.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Ooh ok. I've never thought of it that way, but that actually does make a lot of sense. Disliking it artistically is not mutually exclusive to it being Alphai didn't think your post was long-winded. you criticize the video's artistic characteristics, which i think is a separate issue from whether or not the vid represents alpha values.
having said that, you would make an incisive art critic, your writing is quite compelling.
Alphas: Resolving internal issues peacefully since 1978
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
that's some REAL alpha love
The saddest ESFj
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Ah! I love this song as well.
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LII
Ooh ok. I've never thought of it that way, but that actually does make a lot of sense. Disliking it artistically is not mutually exclusive to it being Alpha
Alphas: Resolving internal issues peacefully since 1978
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
The end is nigh
yo jake, i love that song.
D-SEI9w1
This is me and my dual being scientific together
I recently came across this pic and it made me think of Alpha NT love
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