EDIT: TYPED SLI. I have come to agree :>
Well hello. This bunch of text probably looks intimidating. Before you run off read this: if you're one of those enthusiastic fellows that actually is interested in reading every little detail, you can read everything. If you're not, skip down to the next bolded title. If you truly wish to be helpful (thanks a bunch, it means more than you know) please read the entirety of the paragraphs below the next bolded title.
I've surfed socionics on wikipedia and have browsed socionic related articles for the past 2 (I think?) years after having been referred to it by a sibling. More on the sibling later. Personally I don't know the specific technicalities of socionics (like acronyms and some of the forum lingo) but I understand the system in its functions' relations to one's situation (base functions, ego, subconcious etc). I don't mean to be intrusive or ignorant when I say I know little of the specifics of it and make my first post as a request for help, but I could see no guideline topic for this specific end of the forum so I thought I would jump right in.
My sibling is an ESE for sure (he has had some very professional persons confirm his type, don't ask though b/c I don't know the specifics). His original typing of me was what drew me into socionics. He had originally said I was an LII, his dual. Enthused to be something that 'clicked' with him, I read up on what was my supposed type. I was amused by the LII's page and thought that it hit me spot on in some areas. However, this sibling comes back to me later (now) and informs me that he thinks instead I am an SLI. I am very unsatisfied with the SLI's page (and the deltas in general, but I'll not go into that for you deltas hehe).
However, I eventually convinced myself I am an SLI, like I did with the LII. That is, until I realized that when I look back on those years that I thought I was an LII I can't picture myself as an SLI. Given the nature of socionics, your type cannot change (at least imho) because (the reason my sibling gave) it is the way in which you view life, and if you view life in any other way you must have forgotten the way in which you previously viewed life. You cannot change yourself to meet your own standards either.
Also, my mother is an IEE. I think my mother is either a very unintelligent person, or an intelligent yet spiteful and hateful person that seeks to burden me with unnecessary interrogation and other annoying stuff (my god, the woman calls me FIVE BLOODY TIMES A DAY).
Anyway.. with this realization I concluded that I'm just flowing with this sibling's types and not asking enough of the right questions myself. However, once I tried asking these 'right questions' I noticed a ridiculous bias with myself and I ended up all over the socionics spectrum, so I've come here to appeal to the people I just noticed existed (just found your forum. BY THE WAY, I don't want to register with something my sibling would recognize, so I tried anonymous, but your forum was like 'we don't recognize you, spammer! so I said I wasn't a spammer and it accepted... I think).
Why he thought I was an LII: He never explained
Why he thinks I'm an SLI: A couple reasons, one being that I'm usually surrounded by food and drink, that I had this particularly picky issue with my glasses so that the focal point is now like a milimeter away from what it used to be, that I eat when I feel like and do not like standard eating times, I am concerned with my hearing so I do not blast music in my ears: instead I buy very special earphones that minimize outside sound and have gotten used to the higher quality and do not want to downgrade to lower quality headphones. I'm also a bit of a germophobe and do not like dirty tasks (washing dishes).
I think that wraps up the backround information. Start reading here if you just want typing information.
Who am I then? US. Male. 16 yrs old. Sophmore in high school. 3.95 GPA. Used to be a phonomenal athlete.
Not so much of a great athlete now, not because I don't want to be but because I don't consider it as high as a priority as before. The sport was and still is running (I tried them all, but couldn't bear to bring myself to 'tackle' someone for a stupid ball). I like running b/c it's individualized: if I don't perform at my best I'm not letting anyone down other than myself, and that I can live with better. However, when it comes to the actual races I try as hard as I can given my current shape and can usually outrun most average guys. That is, so long as I am not about to puke: I hate puking with a passion.
I don't like the academics. I work hard though and make sure my assignments are complete/I know the material so my future can be whatever I decide it to be (in the future ) I like the idea of the sciences, but even more so the idea of the liberal arts. However, I also think that in order of politicians to prosper the members of the liberal arts must be disillusioned. So who knows where I'll end up (either a professor with a PHD in some un-marketable english topic or an overworked doctor/engineer... though I would only become the doctor/engineer in order to get money with which I would spend time doing the things I would have done as an unknown english professor ).
Know this, though, I will never ever ever ever get a job that involves manual labor, ever. I hate the idea of pushing a lawn mower or moving thing A to point A and thing B to point B. Even if it's trivial work in a meaningless office I care nothing for: the pen and paper are my heart and soul. I also value my freedom and despise regulations, so the current 5 days a week 7 hours a day thing really gets me feeling annoyed. I also hate taking orders, so when issued one by a gaurdian I will put it off until I 'feel' like doing it: that way it feels like I'm in control of the situation.
When it comes to friends, I have a few that I have known for a long time and am very close with. I have other people (pretty much ALL ASIAN PEOPLE ) whom I would like to call friends but know that I can't because they are just people I have known for a very long time and people that are friends of the people I have known for a very long time. I have no desire to work my way up the social hierarchy and spent my whole middle school career watching the clicks and petty relationships (that I would never have the confidence to make myself.. lol... hippocrite ) unfold with utter disgust, and to the dismay of everyone around me I let them know about it with the use of witty (and sometimes insulting) metaphors. ATM I go to dances and some get-togethers here and there, but I'm no extrovert in the western sense of the word and have not found a significant other who I don't find ... er... stupid? (PS, I can't bear to log into facebook. ever)
When it comes to learning (I mean REAL LEARNING, not school) I tend to shove my ignorance in other people's faces, almost hoping for a negative response so I can affirm my belief in whatever we're talking about. On occasion, I might discuss it with my siblings. They always present a counter-argument at once, but I don't let up until they have thoroughly convinced me that I am wrong (sometimes this takes hours :redface and adjust my thoughts accordingly (so if you're engaged in an argument with me, it's frustrating if you huff up and leave it because I believe that one of us has a better understanding of whatever it is than the other and we ought not leave until we have it sorted. This might be one of my flaws, that I sometimes push myself on other people a little too much , but I wish that they would admit they're wrong or inform me of my error). Occasionally I raise the issues in my head in a class, typically a class of the social sciences, but we haven't the time nor the atmosphere to truly duke it out so-to-speak and I've grown tired of trying to dodge the teacher's regulatory system when it comes to class discussion/debate. I'm trying to become better, though, to confront others when I have a truly incomprehensible question about something they think or said, because it's damn hard to find people with a similar attitude and I need to try harder to seek them out.
I obsess myself with thinking about what I know for sure (concrete knowledge) and what is uknown (that is to say I hate it when people 'assume' things and watch out, sometimes a little too much, to avoid 'assuming' things myself). For example, I was reading the other day about how Atheists should be more forceful in their beliefs on the religious. Being an Atheist, this was relevant to me so I spent time thinking about it.
I hate converters. I didn't want to be a part of an organization that converts or shoves their values on other people like the religious do in western culture (zomfg christmas is a holiday). I had to reconsider Atheism. After a long time spent thinking (and reading of comments on the news story ) I determined that I could still be an Atheist because Atheism is not a belief, but rather the lack of one, so it is more of a status thing (example: if A represents the lack of a belief in unicorns and B represents the lack of belief in a diety and C represents the belief in a diety; you cannot truly do something because of A because you are not acitvely doing something to begin with (believing) so the same applies to B, but not to C). Therefore, I concluded that most Atheists misinterpret what exactly Atheism is, so I have another group to add to my ever growing 'I don't like you list'.
I play a lot of video games and don't really tend to clean up after myself that much. Sometimes I am very bored and end up trying to find things to do with my time. I have taken up (learning by myself with the help of the internets) learning the piano, programming, and occasional writing my thoughts (like right now :>). Occasionally I will procastinate school work by playing a game (I always get it done on time and done right though), but I have become certain the true procrastination is when you play a game when you should be doing something you want to do, in this case learning to program or play the piano (can't stand TV btw).
I can really appreciate the slow, classical tones of a piano playing a depressing or minor tune with some nice, low strings playing a part. However, I am really motivated by different types of hip-hop and I am enthralled by the lyrics of some of those types of artists. Not to mention how much motivation some of the hip-hop artists have provided me through their philosophy. Personally, I do not care for their 'ho slapping' and egotistic songs that are the trademark of that genre. On a side note, I enjoy some techno and classical rock like the beatles, but cannot stand under any circumstances heavy metal music.
That's all I care to write about now. btw, I take this seriously and expect a serious response (but I am ever so grateful for that) because I have been convinced through some discussion sessions with my sibling that socionics has some truth to it, if only to the individual. Given this, I think that I can learn a little about myself if I pry further into the mix. Also given my sibling's sporadic typing nature I can't take his typing to heart and no longer trust my bias self to type myself. Something to keep in mind though, as you reply: my sibling warned me against the forums, indicating that much of it was rubbish and misinterpretation, filled with any old Joe who thinks he's the shit on socionics. While this may be a bit of an overexaggeration, I hope that I can get a veteran typer and not someone attempting to practice their typing skills. That's not to say all ye inexperienced are not welcome here, it's only that I am very anxious on this and want to be completely sure . Quizzes don't help any either because they're so prone to inaccuracy when it comes to something as personal as this (I think I'll force myself to stop rambling here even though that's an incomplete thought).