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  • I am intuitive, my parents are intuitive.

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  • I am intuitive, my parents are sensory.

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  • I am intuitive, my parents are different.

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Thread: Heredity Transmission - Intuition / Sensing

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    Default Heredity Transmission - Intuition / Sensing

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    Hey
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    one's intuitive one's sensing.

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    those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often

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    Dad - sensing
    Mom - intuitive
    Brother - intuitive
    Me - intuitive

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    Both parents sensors, intuitive me.

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    waste of time, there is no connection between parents' type and their children. This research has probably been done long before you were born.

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    I think my parents are both sensors and had two intuitive and two sensors. That I know of.
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    identical twins have different personalities; it is all nurture and no nature: punishment-based behavior leads to process, reward-seeking to result, and then quadra values take over

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    It's funny I just realized that everyone in my immediate family is a sensor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huitzilopochtli View Post
    identical twins have different personalities; it is all nurture and no nature: punishment-based behavior leads to process, reward-seeking to result, and then quadra values take over
    This is interesting... I'm starting to lean this way [nurture > nature] myself, though I would think both come into play. Do you have more ideas about environment/experience and dichotomy/type development?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huitzilopochtli View Post
    identical twins have different personalities; it is all nurture and no nature: punishment-based behavior leads to process, reward-seeking to result, and then quadra values take over
    Bullshit. Identical twins have the same type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Bullshit. Identical twins have the same type.
    the only thing that is bullshit here is you, dumbass

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    [...] a little over 40 per cent of the variation in personality is due to direct genetic factors, less than 10 per cent due to shared environmental influences (i.e. mostly the family), and about 25 per cent due to unique environmental influences experienced by the individual (everything from illness and accident to the company he or she keeps at school). The remaining 25 per cent or so is simply measurement error.
    Personality is about as heritable as body weight. The correlation between siblings in weight is 34%. The similarity between parents and children is a little lower, at 26%. Identical twins reared in the same family have a correlation of 80% while fraternal twins reared together have only 43% similarity, which suggests that genes matter more than shared eating habits. What about adoptees? The correlation between adoptees and their adoptive parents is only 4%, and between unrelated siblings in the same family it is just 1%. By contrast, identical twins reared apart in different families are still 72% similar in weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huitzilopochtli View Post
    the only thing that is bullshit here is you, dumbass
    No, you're wrong and not knowledgeable on the subject.
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    Scientists have found only minimal connection between heredity and developmental disabilities... I imagine that the same is true in terms of Socionics type... Maybe some connection, (but not enough to justify some kind of eugenics.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huitzilopochtli View Post
    identical twins have different personalities; it is all nurture and no nature: punishment-based behavior leads to process, reward-seeking to result, and then quadra values take over
    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Bullshit. Identical twins have the same type.
    I'm pretty sure not all identical twins are the same type, and I'm also very sure that nature does make up a lot of person's personality.
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    if temperament and type are not hereditary, are they reflections of the soul?

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    those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often

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    On the record: I know several couples of twins. Some of them are the same Socionics type, others aren't.
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    Most twins aren't identical. You'd have to compare identical twins.

    Anyway, my parents are both intuitive, but my brother is a sensor.
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    From: Why do Identical Twins Differ in Personality: Shared Environment Reconsidered - Anne Mari Torgersen and Harald Janson (Department of Psychology, University of Oslo, Norway)

    Environmental Influences on Big Five Personality Dimensions

    The results of many heritability studies of the Big Five personality
    dimensions show that most of the environmental
    influence is attributable to nonshared environment. In
    repeated large-scale twin and sibling studies, no major contribution
    of shared environment to the Big Five personality
    dimensions Extraversion and Neuroticism has been found
    (Eaves et al., 1998). In a Swedish study of twins reared
    apart, some effect of shared environment was found for
    Agreeableness. MZ twins reared apart, as compared to
    reared together, were significantly more different for this
    personality factor (Bergeman et al., 1993). Some evidence
    for shared environment on Agreeableness was also found by
    Loehlin (1992).
    The important conclusion to be drawn from the accumulated
    findings of behavior genetic studies of adult
    personality traits, is that familial environments influence
    siblings in different directions. “It is generally not shared
    family environment that causes family members to resemble
    each other” (Plomin, DeFries, et al., 2001; p. 298).

    Personality Differences in Monozygotic Twins

    Since behavior genetic studies agree in that about half of
    the variance explaining individual differences in personality
    is caused by environmental factors, efforts have been made
    the last years to identify such factors in MZ twin studies.
    After decades of statistical modeling, steps are now taken to
    find out more about what “nonshared environment” looks
    like in actuality.
    A number of studies have looked for objectively nonshared
    environmental factors and their effect (e.g.,
    Hetherington et al., 1994), and a few results are reported.
    Differences in MZ twins adjustment in adolescence were in
    one study found to be related to experiences of differences
    in parental negativity (Pike et al., 1996). Vernon et al.
    (1997) in a similar way demonstrated that differences
    between MZ twins in some dimensions of personality were
    correlated with differences in some family and background
    environmental measures.

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    That report does not take into account the impact that conditions in the womb has on the unborn foetus - conditions which would count as environment factors.

    This is from a book by Matt Ridley:
    According to one study, twenty percent of the similarity in intelligence of a pair of twins can be accounted for by events in the womb, while only 5 percent of the intelligence of a pair of siblings can be accounted for by events in the womb.
    ...though of course that doesn't say how much conditions in the womb influence personality.

    Identical twins would be expected to experience the same conditions in the womb, thus boosting the probable similarity in whatever variable in comparison to a random subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    That report does not take into account the impact that conditions in the womb has on the unborn foetus - conditions which would count as environment factors.

    This is from a book by Matt Ridley:


    ...though of course that doesn't say how much conditions in the womb influence personality.

    Identical twins would be expected to experience the same conditions in the womb, thus boosting the probable similarity in whatever variable in comparison to a random subject.
    I hate that guy...reading Genome was one of the biggest disappointments I have ever had...

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