family tree

[CheGuevara]

Is there a connection between the types of your ancestors and your own type? Are there any studies concerning this question?

If that is not the case I'd like to know your family trees to see if we can make out a tendency...


INTj.................ISFp................ESTj..... ......................INFj
..|.....................|.....................|... ............................|
..|.....................|.....................|... ............................|
..-- ESFj -- ISTj --......................-- ENFj -- INFj -- INTp--
..................|............................... ..|..............................
..................|............................... ..|..............................
..................---- INTj ------ INTp ----...............................


How to read that:
My INTj-grandfather and my ISFp-grandmother got my ESFj-aunt and my ISTj-father. My ESTj-grandfather and my INFj-grandmother got my ENFj-mother, my INFj-aunt and my INTp-uncle. I am INTj, my brother is INTp.

Is there a tendency?
It is obvious that dichotomies are not handed down directly: If your parents are both sensory it doesn't mean you are sensory, too.

[Absurd]

Is there a connection between the types of your ancestors and

Wow! You're a family oriented guy.

[Blaze]

i've thought about this before. i can't do a chart like che but here's the maternal side first:

grandmother: istj or intj
grandfather: isfp
my mom: estj, only child

father's side:
grandfather: entp
grandmother: isfj
my aunt: infp
my other aunt: estj
my other aunt: ?? she disconnected from the family
my dad: infj

my sibs:
brother: intj
brother: enfp
me: entp

my ex: estp
his wife: infp

kids:
girl 1: esfj
girl 2: entp

new boyfriend: infp

it's alpha-beta-ing. lol

my father says his mother was isfj but i am not sure about that. she died when i was five. everybody hated my father's father. i knew him pretty well. he was pretty obnoxious. but funny. once, when he was 90 and his kids wanted to put him in a nursing home, he argued with them outside on the street, pretended he had a heart attack or something, and layed down on the street. when the ambulance got there, he got up and walked away. LOL i guess it was pretty mortifying for those who were there. but anyway my father thought his father treated his mother badly.

[Azeroffs]

Dad's:
Gma: ESFj
Gpa: ?
Uncle: ESTp
Uncle: ISTj?
Dad: ISTp

Mom's:
Gpa: ENTj?
Gma: ?
Aunt: ?
Mom: ENTp

Step Dad: ESTj
Half Sis: ExTj?

No Fi in my family =[
lots of logicals

[xerx]

Me ILE
Father LSI
Mother EIE
Brother SEE

I haven't seen most of my extended family in over 18 years. So some of these are guesses to the best of my memory from when I was a toddler, and from pictures and stories.

Paternal:
Grandfather IEI
Grandmother ILI
Brother Alpha NT
Sister IEI

Maternal:
Grandfather SLE [[LSE ?]]
Grandmother Ni [[EII ?]]
Brother ILE
Sister #1 ESE(?) [[Fell in love with a sociopath who would beat her, but she got attached to him]].
Sister #2 (?)

[Wynch]

Mom: ILI
Dad: LSE
Step-mom: LSI or ESI
Step-dad: SLE

Me: ILE
Younger Brother: Enigma
Half-Brother 1: LSI or LII
Half-Brother 2: SLE

Maternal
Grandfather: ESI > LSI
Grandmother: SEI <3

Paternal
Grandfather: SLI
Grandmother: Unsure

[Trevor]

Another family:

Father: SEI
Mother: SLE
Son: ESE, his wife: EIE, their daughter: SLE

[sema sahin]

dad's mother: ESFj
dad's father: IxTx...I think ISTp
eldest uncle: xSTj
aunt: xSTj??
second eldest uncle: ESTp??
great uncle: ESTj
aunt: ESFj
aunt: ESFx
my daddy: ENTj

mum's mother: xSFj
mum's dad: ISTp??
eldest uncle: xSTx??
aunt: ESFp
second eldest uncle: ESTx??
aunt: ISTj
mummy: xSFj

my brother: INFp??
my eldest sister: ESTj
ex brother in law: xSTp??
my sissy...: Exxx???
brother in law: ENTj
niece in law??: ISFj
nephew in law: xxTx

[CheGuevara]

With all the IxTx, xSxj and so on I can't work.

I wanted to count the answers and get results like "80% of the people who have 2 introverted parents are introverted" or something like that. But it's impossible to discocver a tendency this way because the typings are not reliable.

I will start a new thread with a poll...

[silverchris9]

Mom-IEE
Mom's Mom-ESE* (I know, everyone's grandmother is ESE)
Mom's Dad-no idea
Mom's Sister-SEE (possibly SLE, probably SEE)
Her Husband-ESI
Her Daughter-ESE
Her Son-ESI
Mom's Brother 1-Gamma SF*
His Daughter-LSI
Mom's Brother 2-ILE*
Mom's Brother 3-SLI*
Dad-LII
Dad's Dad-IEI*
Dad's Mom-EII*
Dad's Sister 1-Gamma NT
Dad's Sister 2-Something Delta, probably SLI
Stepmom-LSE
Me-IEI
Brother-SEE

I put asterisks next to the ones I'm not as sure of.

EDIT:
Also, I don't think type is really hereditary. I think type is about fundamental psychological choices you make during infancy and maybe even in the womb. You find that certain ways of working with the world are successful/pleasurable and others are unsuccessful/painful. Of course, certain traits that *are* genetically based can influence how successful or unsuccessful certain strategies are. Of course, the obvious opposition to this theory is the fact that parents and children often have conflicting types, so I don't really know...

[crazedrat]

This is going nowhere. Any correlations you find will be erroneous.

[silverchris9]

^Oh, Ni... he's right, of course, but it was a fun exercise to type family members.

[Blaze]

This is going nowhere. Any correlations you find will be erroneous.

yeah really.

socionics is not genetic then. weird. but your type seems to be so "wired in". how do we explain it.

[CheGuevara]

socionics is not genetic then. weird. but your type seems to be so "wired in". how do we explain it.

Reincarnation?

I think that nature makes use of a kind of random generator! In the stone age the groups of Homo Sapiens were very small. If intuitive parents had only intuitive children e.g. it might happen that there are only intuitive people after some generations and the group woul perish. A kind of random generator seems to be necessary.

It is interesting that the type distribution probably worked well in the stone age but is a big problem of today. In the stone age more sensory than intuitive people were required, of course. Today in the information age we would need more intuitive people - but there are still more sensory people. Evolution works slowly...

[1981slater]

Me ILE
Father LSI
Mother EIE
Brother SEE

Me ILE
Father LSI
Mother EIE
Sister SEE

[Absurd]

Me ILE
Father LSI
Mother EIE
Sister SEE

Hmm. No monkeys ?

[Blaze]

Reincarnation?

I think that nature makes use of a kind of random generator! In the stone age the groups of Homo Sapiens were very small. If intuitive parents had only intuitive children e.g. it might happen that there are only intuitive people after some generations and the group woul perish. A kind of random generator seems to be necessary.

It is interesting that the type distribution probably worked well in the stone age but is a big problem of today. In the stone age more sensory than intuitive people were required, of course. Today in the information age we would need more intuitive people - but there are still more sensory people. Evolution works slowly...

you're on to something. random generator. i like that.

i've thought the same thing about sensors...being alot of them in the way back. now we're headed toward the matrix...not sure that's a good thing. where do you think we're headed, then, theoretically?

[The Exception]

Me: LII
Mother: ESE
Dad: SLI
Sister: EII
Sister's Fiancee: IEE?
Her fiancee's brother: LII?

MATERNAL SIDE:

Grandma: LSE
Grandpa: SLI
Aunt: ? SEI (wild guess)
Uncle: SLI
Cousin 1: SLI
Cousin 1's wife: ESE
Cousin 1's children: no idea, they're too young to type
Cousin 2: ESI

PATERNAL SIDE:

Grandma: I dunno. She's hard to type
Grandpa: No idea. He died when I was young
Aunt 1: ESE
Uncle 1: SLE?
Cousin 1: SLI
Cousin 1's wife: SEI
Aunt 2: IEE
Uncle 2: ILE? IEE?
Their children: ESE, SLE, SEI, and 1 unknown
Aunt 3: ?
Uncle 3: LIE
Their son: LII

Alot of SLI's in there.
Not too many gammas