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    Is there a connection between the types of your ancestors and your own type? Are there any studies concerning this question?

    If that is not the case I'd like to know your family trees to see if we can make out a tendency...


    INTj.................ISFp................ESTj..... ......................INFj
    ..|.....................|.....................|... ............................|
    ..|.....................|.....................|... ............................|
    ..-- ESFj -- ISTj --......................-- ENFj -- INFj -- INTp--
    ..................|............................... ..|..............................
    ..................|............................... ..|..............................
    ..................---- INTj ------ INTp ----...............................


    How to read that:
    My INTj-grandfather and my ISFp-grandmother got my ESFj-aunt and my ISTj-father. My ESTj-grandfather and my INFj-grandmother got my ENFj-mother, my INFj-aunt and my INTp-uncle. I am INTj, my brother is INTp.

    Is there a tendency?
    It is obvious that dichotomies are not handed down directly: If your parents are both sensory it doesn't mean you are sensory, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CheGuevara View Post
    Is there a connection between the types of your ancestors and
    Wow! You're a family oriented guy.

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    i've thought about this before. i can't do a chart like che but here's the maternal side first:

    grandmother: istj or intj
    grandfather: isfp
    my mom: estj, only child

    father's side:
    grandfather: entp
    grandmother: isfj
    my aunt: infp
    my other aunt: estj
    my other aunt: ?? she disconnected from the family
    my dad: infj

    my sibs:
    brother: intj
    brother: enfp
    me: entp

    my ex: estp
    his wife: infp

    kids:
    girl 1: esfj
    girl 2: entp

    new boyfriend: infp

    it's alpha-beta-ing. lol

    my father says his mother was isfj but i am not sure about that. she died when i was five. everybody hated my father's father. i knew him pretty well. he was pretty obnoxious. but funny. once, when he was 90 and his kids wanted to put him in a nursing home, he argued with them outside on the street, pretended he had a heart attack or something, and layed down on the street. when the ambulance got there, he got up and walked away. LOL i guess it was pretty mortifying for those who were there. but anyway my father thought his father treated his mother badly.

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    those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often

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    Dad's:
    Gma: ESFj
    Gpa: ?
    Uncle: ESTp
    Uncle: ISTj?
    Dad: ISTp

    Mom's:
    Gpa: ENTj?
    Gma: ?
    Aunt: ?
    Mom: ENTp

    Step Dad: ESTj
    Half Sis: ExTj?

    No Fi in my family =[
    lots of logicals
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    Me ILE
    Father LSI
    Mother EIE
    Brother SEE

    I haven't seen most of my extended family in over 18 years. So some of these are guesses to the best of my memory from when I was a toddler, and from pictures and stories.

    Paternal:
    Grandfather IEI
    Grandmother ILI
    Brother Alpha NT
    Sister IEI

    Maternal:
    Grandfather SLE [[LSE ?]]
    Grandmother Ni [[EII ?]]
    Brother ILE
    Sister #1 ESE(?) [[Fell in love with a sociopath who would beat her, but she got attached to him]].
    Sister #2 (?)
    It was in the reign of George III that the aforesaid personages lived and quarrelled; good or bad, handsome or ugly, rich or poor, they are all equal now.

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    Mom: ILI
    Dad: LSE
    Step-mom: LSI or ESI
    Step-dad: SLE

    Me: ILE
    Younger Brother: Enigma
    Half-Brother 1: LSI or LII
    Half-Brother 2: SLE

    Maternal
    Grandfather: ESI > LSI
    Grandmother: SEI <3

    Paternal
    Grandfather: SLI
    Grandmother: Unsure
    ILE
    7w8 so/sp

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    Another family:

    Father: SEI
    Mother: SLE
    Son: ESE, his wife: EIE, their daughter: SLE

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    dad's mother: ESFj
    dad's father: IxTx...I think ISTp
    eldest uncle: xSTj
    aunt: xSTj??
    second eldest uncle: ESTp??
    great uncle: ESTj
    aunt: ESFj
    aunt: ESFx
    my daddy: ENTj

    mum's mother: xSFj
    mum's dad: ISTp??
    eldest uncle: xSTx??
    aunt: ESFp
    second eldest uncle: ESTx??
    aunt: ISTj
    mummy: xSFj

    my brother: INFp??
    my eldest sister: ESTj
    ex brother in law: xSTp??
    my sissy...: Exxx???
    brother in law: ENTj
    niece in law??: ISFj
    nephew in law: xxTx
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    "When you see an evil act you have to stop it with your hand.
    If you can't, then at least speak out against it with your tongue.
    If you can't, then at least you have to hate it with all your heart.
    And this is the weakest of faith."

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    With all the IxTx, xSxj and so on I can't work.

    I wanted to count the answers and get results like "80% of the people who have 2 introverted parents are introverted" or something like that. But it's impossible to discocver a tendency this way because the typings are not reliable.

    I will start a new thread with a poll...
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    Mom-IEE
    Mom's Mom-ESE* (I know, everyone's grandmother is ESE)
    Mom's Dad-no idea
    Mom's Sister-SEE (possibly SLE, probably SEE)
    Her Husband-ESI
    Her Daughter-ESE
    Her Son-ESI
    Mom's Brother 1-Gamma SF*
    His Daughter-LSI
    Mom's Brother 2-ILE*
    Mom's Brother 3-SLI*
    Dad-LII
    Dad's Dad-IEI*
    Dad's Mom-EII*
    Dad's Sister 1-Gamma NT
    Dad's Sister 2-Something Delta, probably SLI
    Stepmom-LSE
    Me-IEI
    Brother-SEE

    I put asterisks next to the ones I'm not as sure of.

    EDIT:
    Also, I don't think type is really hereditary. I think type is about fundamental psychological choices you make during infancy and maybe even in the womb. You find that certain ways of working with the world are successful/pleasurable and others are unsuccessful/painful. Of course, certain traits that *are* genetically based can influence how successful or unsuccessful certain strategies are. Of course, the obvious opposition to this theory is the fact that parents and children often have conflicting types, so I don't really know...
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

    Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...

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    This is going nowhere. Any correlations you find will be erroneous.
    INTp

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    ^Oh, Ni... he's right, of course, but it was a fun exercise to type family members.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

    Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratXII View Post
    This is going nowhere. Any correlations you find will be erroneous.
    yeah really.

    socionics is not genetic then. weird. but your type seems to be so "wired in". how do we explain it.

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    those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze View Post
    socionics is not genetic then. weird. but your type seems to be so "wired in". how do we explain it.
    Reincarnation?

    I think that nature makes use of a kind of random generator! In the stone age the groups of Homo Sapiens were very small. If intuitive parents had only intuitive children e.g. it might happen that there are only intuitive people after some generations and the group woul perish. A kind of random generator seems to be necessary.

    It is interesting that the type distribution probably worked well in the stone age but is a big problem of today. In the stone age more sensory than intuitive people were required, of course. Today in the information age we would need more intuitive people - but there are still more sensory people. Evolution works slowly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Me ILE
    Father LSI
    Mother EIE
    Brother SEE
    Me ILE
    Father LSI
    Mother EIE
    Sister SEE
    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Me ILE
    Father LSI
    Mother EIE
    Sister SEE
    Hmm. No monkeys ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CheGuevara View Post
    Reincarnation?

    I think that nature makes use of a kind of random generator! In the stone age the groups of Homo Sapiens were very small. If intuitive parents had only intuitive children e.g. it might happen that there are only intuitive people after some generations and the group woul perish. A kind of random generator seems to be necessary.

    It is interesting that the type distribution probably worked well in the stone age but is a big problem of today. In the stone age more sensory than intuitive people were required, of course. Today in the information age we would need more intuitive people - but there are still more sensory people. Evolution works slowly...
    you're on to something. random generator. i like that.

    i've thought the same thing about sensors...being alot of them in the way back. now we're headed toward the matrix...not sure that's a good thing. where do you think we're headed, then, theoretically?

    ILE

    those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often

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    Me: LII
    Mother: ESE
    Dad: SLI
    Sister: EII
    Sister's Fiancee: IEE?
    Her fiancee's brother: LII?

    MATERNAL SIDE:

    Grandma: LSE
    Grandpa: SLI
    Aunt: ? SEI (wild guess)
    Uncle: SLI
    Cousin 1: SLI
    Cousin 1's wife: ESE
    Cousin 1's children: no idea, they're too young to type
    Cousin 2: ESI

    PATERNAL SIDE:

    Grandma: I dunno. She's hard to type
    Grandpa: No idea. He died when I was young
    Aunt 1: ESE
    Uncle 1: SLE?
    Cousin 1: SLI
    Cousin 1's wife: SEI
    Aunt 2: IEE
    Uncle 2: ILE? IEE?
    Their children: ESE, SLE, SEI, and 1 unknown
    Aunt 3: ?
    Uncle 3: LIE
    Their son: LII

    Alot of SLI's in there.
    Not too many gammas
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