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    Oh, hi.

    I'm Matthew.

    I self-type as LII, although various socionics tests usually yield LII, LSI, ILI, ILE, or SLI.

    I'm here to broaden my understanding of socionics, although I'm slightly more familiar with the MBTI typology system. (not holding that against me would be appreciated)

    That's all the pertinent information for now.

    Move along, citizen.

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    MBTI is not valued. Welcome to the16types. We've got a lot of your type around here.

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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    MBTI is not valued. Welcome to the16types. We've got a lot of your type around here.
    So I've heard. What do they do for fun around here?

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    Your word choice and semantic focus displayed in your introductory post certainly sound LII. Given that and the preponderance of introvert types in your test results (which makes ILE unlikely in my mind), I see no reason to doubt your self-typing of LII.

    Isn't speculation based on almost no evidence fun?

    Also, uh, welcome, and such.
    Quaero Veritas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    Your word choice and semantic focus displayed in your introductory post certainly sound LII. Given that and the preponderance of introvert types in your test results (which makes ILE unlikely in my mind), I see no reason to doubt your self-typing of LII.

    Isn't speculation based on almost no evidence fun?

    Also, uh, welcome, and such.
    Our modern democratic systems couldn't function without speculation on minimal evidence!

    Also, your welcome is noticed and reciprocated with a hello.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    So I've heard. What do they do for fun around here?
    Rant, complain, dualize, discuss food and the weather, pist silly pictures, get advice on dealing with people (esp. romantically), and say "Hi."

    Hi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Rant, complain, dualize, discuss food and the weather, pist silly pictures, get advice on dealing with people (esp. romantically), and say "Hi."

    Hi.
    Hi.

    I can see how simply enthralling this is already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    Hi.

    I can see how simply enthralling this is already.
    Hi.

    Nice to meet you.

    How's the weather?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Hi.

    Nice to meet you.

    How's the weather?

    You know my type and still expect me to have a window in my basement dwelling?

    It's mildly sunny yet mildly breezy windy at the same time. Any psychology with diagnose it with bipolar disorder in an instant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    You know my type and still expect me to have a window in my basement dwelling?

    It's mildly sunny yet mildly breezy windy at the same time. Any psychology with diagnose it with bipolar disorder in an instant.
    In other words, moderate and tolerable.

    How was I to know you had a basement? Maybe you've got an apartment and never bothered putting up curtains, leaving you a perfect view of outside.

    Inside weather works too; it's usually rather nice inside. Today it's too cold. ' Least there's no wind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Is that Gottfried Liebniz or an 80s rockstar?
    Moonlight will fall
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    Is that Gottfried Liebniz or an 80s rockstar?
    It's open for interpretation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    It's open for interpretation.
    Reminded me of a cross between Bach and a French king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Reminded me of a cross between Bach and a French king.
    Can you VI it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    Can you VI it?
    I can try. Not much of a facial expression, though...

    ENTp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    I can try. Not much of a facial expression, though...

    ENTp?
    I've heard arguments for either Alpha NT when typing the original subject of the image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    I've heard arguments for either Alpha NT when typing the original subject of the image.
    When I VI, I fill my head with images of the hundreds of people I've typed until I decide on the group the picture fits best with.

    How do you VI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    When I VI, I fill my head with images of the hundreds of people I've typed until I decide on the group the picture fits best with.

    How do you VI?
    I'm still learning that particular skill, but I'm leaning with "analyze facial expression and attempt to determine the functions of their Ego block."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    I'm still learning that particular skill, but I'm leaning with "analyze facial expression and attempt to determine the functions of their Ego block."
    Heh. "I can't pitch, but I can throw the ball for you to hit."

    I think circles are better with VI. Not that it's considered a reliable method around here.

    How did you come to know about socionics? Brilliand introduced me, and I studied my charts with until they were stored in and I could stop working and just know.

    That test said you're your own quasi. How does that make you feel?
    I've noticed LIIs and ILIs both appreciate energy.

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    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Heh. "I can't pitch, but I can throw the ball for you to hit."

    I think circles are better with VI. Not that it's considered a reliable method around here.

    How did you come to know about socionics? Brilliand introduced me, and I studied my charts with until they were stored in and I could stop working and just know.

    That test said you're your own quasi. How does that make you feel?
    I've noticed LIIs and ILIs both appreciate energy.
    How did I come to know about Socionics? That came with my investment in studying typology matrices. (namely Enneagram, MBTI, and Socionics)

    How does it make me FEEL? You did see ILI-Te subtype and LII, right? I don't have a strong ethics function in my body.

    Anyways, it must be an indicator that I can come off multiple ways. That, or I'm living the wonderful world of Id functions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    How does it make me FEEL? You did see ILI-Te subtype and LII, right? I don't have a strong ethics function in my body.

    Anyways, it must be an indicator that I can come off multiple ways. That, or I'm living the wonderful world of Id functions.
    Lol. Just quoting a classic psychologist line. Maybe I should have said "What do you think of that?"

    You've got as much L as I do; we're both logical rationals.

    Id...*shudder* the work and the ferocity. How anyone can stay there for long periods of time without becoming a jerk is beyond me.

    I'm very familiar with both an (or a; I'm still uncertain as to the correct grammatical approach to socionics) LII and an ILI. I'd say you're an LII. Either way, you're quite common. This forum is full of introverted intuitives, and my list of people's types is mostly full of extroverted feelers.

    Favorite pizza toppings?

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    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Lol. Just quoting a classic psychologist line. Maybe I should have said "What do you think of that?"

    You've got as much L as I do; we're both logical rationals.

    Id...*shudder* the work and the ferocity. How anyone can stay there for long periods of time without becoming a jerk is beyond me.

    I'm very familiar with both an (or a; I'm still uncertain as to the correct grammatical approach to socionics) LII and an ILI. I'd say you're an LII. Either way, you're quite common. This forum is full of introverted intuitives, and my list of people's types is mostly full of extroverted feelers.

    Favorite pizza toppings?
    Ah, making decisions shortly after meeting someone. The sign of a true person of or around voting age.

    Black olives with the occasional pepperoni or occasional no toppings.

    On a side note, what about those types with jerk-like functions in valued positions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    Black olives with the occasional pepperoni or occasional no toppings.
    Huh. I think olives give pizza a somewhat undesirably strange flavor, though I love eating them from the can or with guacamole. Pepperoni is good.

    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    On a side note, what about those types with jerk-like functions in valued positions?
    You mean SLEs? Lol. I'm sure they feel like a jerk when using their id, since it's something they don't value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Huh. I think olives give pizza a somewhat undesirably strange flavor, though I love eating them from the can or with guacamole. Pepperoni is good.



    You mean SLEs? Lol. I'm sure they feel like a jerk when using their id, since it's something they don't value.
    Nice job hating on your quasi. Leave it to a Delta...

    I personally find the olives to be a second flavor to a pizza. While it varies between eating styles, the olives are one of the latter things for me to taste in mine. They become a second dash of sensation to the taste of the pizza.

    *skips off before being accused of being LSI*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    I'm going to deduce that it's a few pixels surrounded by several white pixels poorly transcribed into a circle.

    The pixels, I'm sure, represent something. The dead walking the Earth? The inspiration for Anubis? How everyone on /b/ has decent photoshop skills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    Care to disagree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    No.
    Aw... I'm sorry. Do you have self-esteem issues related to your image skills?

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    But seriously, WTF IS THAT?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    Also, your welcome is noticed and reciprocated with a hello.
    Yup. Definitely LII.

    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    But seriously, WTF IS THAT?!
    I don't know what it is, but we need to shoot it with bazookas, just to be safe.
    Quaero Veritas.

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    no doubt LII
    INTp

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    I forgot how quick Socionics typings can be. I'll have to get used to this.

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    Quick and painless.

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    Welcome!
    EII INFj
    Forum status: retired

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Quick and painless.
    The inner part of me that asks "what if?" is in pain right now, I'm sure.

    Just a hunch, actually. I don't have strength in any feeling function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    You sound reasonably intelligent and sane. So may I ask, why, again, did you sign up on this forum, then?

    (oh snap, post count is 1984. Don't tell the Ministry of Love I posted that, k?)
    Intelligence is 60% insanity,(reasonably sane is an illusion) 30% knowledge, and 10% sheer guesswork. Joining this forum was part of the 60%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    You mean SLEs? Lol. I'm sure they feel like a jerk when using their id, since it's something they don't value.
    Yup. From what I know about SLEs, I think they'd feel like not enough fun when focusing on Te and too... waste of time/lazy/distracted when focusing on Si. For my part, I wouldn't feel like a jerk if I focused on Ne and Fi... I'd just feel disingenuous, and... soft, as though Ne is less "serious" than Ni, although that can't possibly be true. But that's how it would seem to me.

    Anyway, Hi Matthew, welcome to the forum. You seem like an LII to me as well. Definitely logical, definitely rational. You're not an LSE, and you don't feel like an LIE or an LSI. LII is the natural choice.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

    Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...

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