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    Default ESIs-ISFjs don't ever seem to be depressed

    I was just wondering this.

    Since I know a girl, who's had a lot of trouble in her life (spend most of the time in hospital and is always sick and tired), yet she's never depressed.

    Recalling other ESI's that I know, I've never seen or heard about depressions they had. It almost seems as if they are immune to that.

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    Among all the people I know, only ESIs have ever gone to professional psychologists: they worry too much about things!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Among all the people I know, only ESIs have ever gone to professional psychologists: they worry too much about things!
    Acknowledging your weakness makes you stronger!
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    My ex ESI bestfriend had many psychological problems... as I can remember...The biggest one was anorexia...and yes anorexia is psychological. I am not sure about depression tho..

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    ESI's rarely show that they are having emotional problems even though they can be quite sensitive. It has to do with Fe-ignoring. I've read that they feel like expressing that just makes them feel weak. ESIs are troopers. Probably the most emotionally solid of the feeling types, at least outwardly.
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    oke thanks guys.

    it seems then that I only know happy ones.

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    The one person I'm sure is ESI has a lot of problems, but you have to pry it out of her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    Why? I wanna know.
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    Since I was four or so, I have suffered from constant existential depression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Since I was four or so, I have suffered from constant existential depression.
    One question to all ESIs: most ILEs are almost always in a good, cheerful mood, does this bother you?
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    usually it's cheerful over something irrelevant

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    One question to all ESIs: most ILEs are almost always in a good, cheerful mood, does this bother you?
    Other people's moods have no effect on me, unless it's someone I care about.

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    Kind of varies, in my experience. Introverts are consistently more depressed than extraverts, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    I'm pretty sure I know why that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azeroffs View Post
    The one person I'm sure is ESI has a lot of problems, but you have to pry it out of her.
    Same experiences with the ESI's I've known. And when you hit a "mine", they "clam up", so to speak. It's like they'd rather ignore the problems they have instead of facing them.

    At first they are concerned with keeping a facade, but for someone observant, it shows. Over time, they just self-destruct. No hope left... their dreams shattered, they resign themselves to a life of self-abasement and contempt; believing they don't deserve any better. It's sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    In this case, neither. I just have intuitive superpowers, that is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xkj220 View Post
    Same experiences with the ESI's I've known. And when you hit a "mine", they "clam up", so to speak. It's like they'd rather ignore the problems they have instead of facing them.

    At first they are concerned with keeping a facade, but for someone observant, it shows. Over time, they just self-destruct. No hope left... their dreams shattered, they resign themselves to a life of self-abasement and contempt; believing they don't deserve any better. It's sad.
    that's sad indeed. unfortunately I can see ESI's do this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    that's sad indeed. unfortunately I can see ESI's do this...
    Yep. What's worse is that it's usually other people -- scumbags, who use and abuse the good-natured ESI's -- who cause them to develop these very bleak and strategically unsound views on life.

    Also, what I said is not going to apply to all ESI's: I've met two that fit that "unhealth" description -- I've met others that don't :wink:.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    In this case, neither. I just have intuitive superpowers, that is all.
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    All types get depressed.
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    One ESI I know don't seem to handle a lot of negativity well.
    He's ESI E6, and he definitely prefers positive people. Gets 'depressed' if people talk about how bad things are all the time.
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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