starting at 2:07
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REr7XfoiKrs]YouTube - Scientology: Day 1 of the 4th of July Event[/ame]
Suggestion for naming:
Centre guy: guy1
Left guy: guy2
Right guy: guy3
Ennegram would be interesting too.
type these scientologists
starting at 2:07
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REr7XfoiKrs]YouTube - Scientology: Day 1 of the 4th of July Event[/ame]
Suggestion for naming:
Centre guy: guy1
Left guy: guy2
Right guy: guy3
Ennegram would be interesting too.
That guy is an ass for video taping them. I can't believe I'm taking a cop's side but really- if people wanna be fanatical stupid idiots and believe stupid shit, just let them. You exploiting them is shit stupid. It's basically a creepy weirdo attracting other creepy weirdos. They're all fucked up.
They seem all Te-valuing to me, for what it's worth. ;p
Hubbard was anti-homosexual.
I think when the cop touched the camera I would have said "Do you have a permit for my camera too, I wasn't aware that filming was against the law, I would like to see where in the law it is stated that what I am currently doing is illegal"Originally Posted by xkj220
I still don't agree with him but I changed my mind.
I think the guy challenging them is Beta, SLE and they are Delta types. Definitely.
Hmm, I agree on the cameraman, but I think the guy in the center is alpha SF. The guy on the right is probably EII, and the guy on the left is probably SLI, so good call. As for enneagram, the guys on the right and center seem to be sixes, and the guy on the left I don't know if he is an 8, a 3, or 9w8.
They picketed his house, which pissed cameraman off, so he decided to do this.That guy is an ass for video taping them. I can't believe I'm taking a cop's side but really- if people wanna be fanatical stupid idiots and believe stupid shit, just let them
If it happened to be a private property, it probably would. But it's a public street.I think when the cop touched the camera I would have said "Do you have a permit for my camera too, I wasn't aware that filming was against the law, I would like to see where in the law it is stated that what I am currently doing is illegal"
Among other things...Hubbard was anti-homosexual.
I know thats the point, I don't think the cop had the right to handle his camera.... as far as I am aware, there is no law against filming people in public.
See basically what I think was going on was...
The police and security wanted to simply perserve the peace... they didn't want the guy to cause disruption to the event, which obviously he wanted to do - in no serious way though.
However...
The police and security didn't have a good way of expressing to him why it was fair for him to be discluded from the event... instead they just assumed their stance as authority figures was enough to convince the man he should just go away.
So basically I think the cops wanted to not be filmed because they were afraid they'd say something stupid to the guy on camera (since they are relying on their authority vs their knowledge of the law) and that could lead to them being in trouble for misrepresenting the law. If I was that guy I would have realized this and exploited it, forcing them into a position where they'de have to explain themselves. Personally I am not that guy though, so I really don't care but if I did I would have used the law as my key since cops are subordinates of the law and have a duty to uphold it, as authority figures its critical they derive their power from the law and the law from the people (law makers as representatives of the people, elected by the people)... without deriving their power from the law they are basically abusing the power that has been given to them from the law.
I don't think any of those people are 8 -- 8's are characterized by their need for action, and most of those people just talk -- they don't act to get him escorted away, they don't threaten him with action, they don't assualt him, they don't ignore him and walk away.... they are more verbal types interested in discussing his discontent and converting him. 8's don't care about converting people, they are more likely to force people than truely convert them. Second 8's have a need to physically act out their anger, none of these types are physically acting out their anger.... most of them remain calm and collected rather than pacing furiously or exhibited stand offish body language. 8's are also less defensive than offensive in conflicts, they prefer to keep going at someone in one form or another rather than to sit back and protect themselves. Finally 8's are usually protective and unemotional, typically excuding a strong/immovable type kind of vibe... if an 8 isn't going to act or go on the offensive they are more likely to stand their disinterested like a rock or a guard... these people seem more interested in pulling him over to their thinking rather than simply dismissing him outright -- in other words they feel like they have to prove something to him by showing him he is wrong.... 8's are instinctive and act on what their first impression of wrong/right is, they don't need approval or reassurance.
The guy on the left was calmer and more withdrawn, I got a more 9 or feeling triad vibe from him.... especially the way he attempted to try to shame him by saying he beats his wife.
If anyone had 8 in their tritype it was the guy in the middle, the way he laughed back at him explosively and angered, was like the way an 8 would act out their anger physically, but I don't think any of them were 8 as their dominant type.
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