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    I'm in love with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sycophant
    I'm in love with him.
    everyone, i mean everyone, has a dad crush on my dad.


    especially gammas and betas, damnit.
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    Edited for gayness.
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    ENFj?
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    lord, no!
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    He does sound a lot like my ENFj dad. A LOT. Though that could be a dad thing.

    He looks a scary lot like my dad too. Well my dad has red hair but still a lot alike in the expression on his face. My dad even wore his hair like that back in the early 60s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    lord, no!
    Um, yes?
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    weird!

    i never once thought ENFj for him.

    he thinks ralph nader is the best guy ever and he's kind of a socialist at heart.
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    p.s. sara

    you're such a fucking sucker for ENFj men! (;
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    Well, think about it:

    - He's overdramatic at times.
    - He's bursting with energy.
    - He's blunt with his opinions.
    - He's heavily focused on the family.
    - Quick and careful.

    I'd say that's ENFj, all right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    Well, think about it:

    - He's overdramatic at times.
    - He's bursting with energy.
    - He's blunt with his opinions.
    - He's heavily focused on the family.
    - Quick and careful.

    I'd say that's ENFj, all right.
    yeah, i agree, it sounds right! there's just something missing for him to be ENFj. if he's ENFj, he doesn't remind me of any of the male ENFjs i have ever known (aside from being dramatic sometimes.)

    he's blunt in his opinions, yeah, but not in that ENFj way. i seriously don't think he realizes at all when he's being blunt.
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    Well, let's assume for a moment that your dad is a definite ENFj. If you have never even thought for a second that your dad was ENFj, then perhaps it is that every other ENFj guy you knew really wasn't ENFj. It is possible.
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    I am not! ENFjs suck. I hate your dad.

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    Cannot see ESTp, sorry. I think the fact that your mom thought he was ENFp really points to something important.

    So, I may be horribly wrong, but I will DIE with ENFj.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    Cannot see ESTp, sorry. I think the fact that your mom thought he was ENFp really points to something important.
    i agree. but what?
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    That he's an emotional person, plus some other obscure stuff. Just read the ENFp description...

    But he's seems too energetic to be ENFp or ESTp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    That he's an emotional person, plus some other obscure stuff. Just read the ENFp description...

    But he's seems too energetic to be ENFp or ESTp.
    ENFj's aren't TACTLESS like that, I don't think. They also aren't womanizers, usually.

    ENTj
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    thing.

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    The description reminds me of a toned down ENTj but not sure. The whole no tolerance for idiots sounds very ENTj to me. There are other types that feel this way but their the only type I know who verbalizes it usually

    Just the fact that he's a surgeon too. I seem to know a lot of ENTjs who excelled in the medical field. They also make excellent administrators and leaders

    One of my former bosses was an ENTj female and she was the first female Dean of Health Professions at the University where I worked and started the job when she was in her 30s!!!. Her accomplishments and ethics always impressed me for the most part, we just disagreed a bit on method. I felt she would make rash decisions occassionaly but for the most part, her decision making was so good, you really couldn't complain.

    I could see why they might want a stay at home wife. The ones I know are so driven, that it would be awesome for them to have someone to take care of all the daily household things. Plus you can't be tuff all the time and its nice to have someone to let you card down with.

    Your dad sounds like a really wondeful man.
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    The description reminds me of a toned down ENTj but not sure. The whole no tolerance for idiots sounds very ENTj to me. There are other types that feel this way but their the only type I know who verbalizes it usually

    Just the fact that he's a surgeon too. I seem to know a lot of ENTjs who excelled in the medical field. They also make excellent administrators and leaders

    One of my former bosses was an ENTj female and she was the first female Dean of Health Professions at the University where I worked and started the job when she was in her 30s!!!. Her accomplishments and ethics always impressed me for the most part, we just disagreed a bit on method. I felt she would make rash decisions occassionaly but for the most part, her decision making was so good, you really couldn't complain.

    I could see why they might want a stay at home wife. The ones I know are so driven, that it would be awesome for them to have someone to take care of all the daily household things. Plus you can't be tuff all the time and its nice to have someone you can just relax with.

    Your dad sounds like a really wonderful man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    i just can't see ENFj aside from being romantic.

    like he'd do stuff like dance around the living room with my mom listening to old stevie wonder records and stuff ("i just called to say i love you" is totally their song.)

    our house is pretty much a library (almost exclusively medical and history textbooks.) he also has a pretty massive gun collection.

    he also taught me how to tango when i was like... 6?
    This still sounds like my dad, except replace "tango" with "jitterbug". And replace "medical texts" with "history books" - my dad was a history teacher. Oh and replace "I just called to say I love you" with "Michelle" (by the Beatles).
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    I say ENTj, if pressurized, I'd add thinking style.


    Quote Originally Posted by implied

    he's a surgeon and an MD. he's old now so he just does general practice. he's done weird work like cutting diamonds and he also has this random bachelor's degree in anthropology.
    ENTj just has to try out things, especially the thinking style ones. They get into a lot of weird situations because they want to be sure about being right and test out their hunches.

    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    he's massively blunt with his patients (really poor bedside manners for a doctor) but people still go to see him because they know he's smart and a good diagnostician. he'll talk about really random stuff that has nothing to do with the patient he's seeing (it turns into random history trivia with him.)
    Massive bluntness only exists in thinking style types in "rational" people. That is people who waffle between ST and NT. Again also the breadth of random knowledge associated with ENTjs.

    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    he does some weird suspciously NT type stuff. like we'll be watching CNN or something and he'll start doing anthropological analysis of the anchor people. he has absolutely no patience for stupid people. or mediocrity. really he doesn't have a lot of patience in general. like if he wants something he wants it right then.
    No patience with suckiness is actually EST behaviour corresponding to his thinking style. Some ENTjs do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    he has an amazingly good memory. he memorizes love poetry and things like this. he also reads constantly.
    Good memory for specifics implies sensoric ability. Or he could just be showing off, letting nobody know how much it takes from him to remember that poetry.

    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    he thinks alexander the great was just awesome. he also loves george sand, victor hugo, & einstein. when i was maybe 15 he gave me a copy of machiavelli "the prince" and said that was all i needed to know in life.
    Don't know about Sand, Hugo was an ESFj by most people's standards and Einstein is so debated I'm not going to go there, but Il Principo is like the holy bible of ENTjness.

    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    he used to be excessively into flashy cars and things. like he had a jaguar at one point. he still has a rolex from the 1950's or something. it seems like he used to be really physically active and into sports (i know he did boxing when he was younger.)
    Hmm, random flashy stuff, screaming ENTj into my ear.

    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    my mother thought he was ENFp based off the descriptions on socionics.com.
    That's sweet from your mom. Is she an introvert?

    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    he isn't great with holidays or anything like that. he acts all tough in public when my mom is around but whatever he's such a sucker for her. affectionate in private. he also kind of sucks at picking friends.
    Being a googly-eyed moron when with your wife is sort of a badge of honor for the romantic ENTjs. The difference with an ENFjs romance is that an ENFj is a fantacist, stranger ideas but less actual romantic deeds than with the ENTj.
    Sucks how? (the friends thing)

    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    when i was little he used to drill me on random WWII trivia. so i know everything there is to know now about erwin rommel etc.
    Hmm, Erwin Rommel is another thinking style ENTj fetish, almost on par with machiavelli. Was he specially interested in that general or did you get the whole treatment? (note: I don't know what type Rommel was but the way he's usually portrayed strikes a chord with ENTjs, I'd guess with ESTjs as well but they don't gush as much.)

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    Pretty much ditto to everything SmilingEyes cited. ENTj would be my guess. As I said: puts up a "manly" front, then gets all gushy towards his better half. <- sounds like a few ENTjs I know.

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    That does make sense. And ENTj would also explain the various relations between him and his family.
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    The only thing that seems non-ENTj to me is the 5 marriages.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    The only thing that seems non-ENTj to me is the 5 marriages.
    That's true. But we don't really know the specifics. There might be reasons that have nothing to do with his personality for the divorces. We don't even know if he was divorcing, being divorced or if some of his wives weren't divorced but died.
    Also, his Te seems very strong. He might periodically act like an ESTj: prematurely throw away something slightly problematic.

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    When I read this I thought ENTj right away. I'm just too pussy to say anything.

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    he's ENTj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sycophant
    When I read this I thought ENTj right away. I'm just too pussy to say anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sycophant
    I'm in love with him.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    I actually think ISTP or something close. The cursing thing is a definite. Don't ENTJs like to stay light and cheery? When I think about it, he reminds me a lot like my ISTP uncle.

    Socionics ISTP, but more likely undifferentiated attitude. (xSTP)

    Does his behavior imply anything like, viewing the external consequences of internal motivations? Does he remark about what people are likely to do given their circumstances?

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    There are definitely some things that could be ESTJ. Since that was a feeling I had, and it was mentioned he could be ENTJ, then there is probably dominant possibility. Also, Expat and Smilingeyes saw ENTJ behavior. So, in conclusion, he's probably ENTJ.

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    Yeah, but ENTjs think everybody is ENTj.
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