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  • Activity, Mirror, Identical

    8 22.86%
  • Identical, Mirror, Activity

    2 5.71%
  • Activity, Identical, Mirror

    13 37.14%
  • Mirror, Activity, Identical

    2 5.71%
  • Identical, Activity, Mirror

    7 20.00%
  • Mirror, Identical, Activity

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    Default Rank who you want relationships with after your dual

    E.g.

    1. Activity
    2. Mirror
    3. Identical
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    Activity, Identical, Mirror.

    As an Ep, I'm most adverse to Ij temperament.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    The dual cult said, "Hi."
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    tie between semi-dual, illusionary. then activity. rationality is an issue. i would not want to be in a long term relation with another logical.

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    1. Natalie Portman
    2. Megan Fox
    3. Jennifer Love Hewitt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    Elijah Wood has nice eyes.
    Really? His eyes are sort of creepy. Like the children in the Total Eclipse of the Heart video level of creepy. Or have you seen him in Sin City? Creepy eyes.
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    So this is only for same-quadra. Mirror would get boring, but not as boring as identical. Living with an activity for the rest of my life would drive me nuts.

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    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    But he makes such a cute hobbit.
    I suppose it doesn't really matter. He is not one of my ranked relationships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Activity, Identical, Mirror.

    As an Ep, I'm most adverse to Ij temperament.
    I'm not sure if that logic makes sense...whatever type your dual or mirror is, their SuperId functions are SuperId functions because of the sheer strength of their Ego. Your dual or mirror is far removed from your opposing quadra...

    I chose Activity, Mirror, Identical rather than Activity, Identical, Mirror because I think a Mirror relationship allows more bases to be covered.

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    Megan Fox is in your quadra if she chooses to be in your quadra.

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    I think I would go with semi-dual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom View Post
    I think I would go with semi-dual.
    That would be preferred to mirror, activation, or identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    That would be preferred to mirror, activation, or identical.
    by a large margin.

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    Yup. I would say semi-dual too.

    Well, some SEIs are cool, some aren't. From the LSEs I know, they'd be a safe bet. EIIs can be really cool when I relate, but not so much when I don't. IEE is definitely on the bottom of my list.

    So, between EII and LSE... from how I get along with my ESI mum (HERP DERP DERP :TE: FAILURE), I'd say EII has a potential for a really unpleasant life if we're both dreamy and impractical. But at the same time, I find that I can't connect that deeply with LSEs more often than not.

    Still, I suppose you can get TeSi services outside of a relationship. So, yeah.

    Mirror -> Activity -> Identical.

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    And again, I stress, Si is good for me. On a superficial level, the EIIs I like have similar characteristics to the SLIs and SEIs I like.

    Well, according to theory, Fake Caregiver NFs can get really stressed out when they deplete themselves because they're too busy looking after their partner. I could see this leading to the both of us getting stuck in a really negative rut with no way to recharge and refresh. Not good.

    And while we're talking of potentials, I know Sereno mentioned starting to appreciate STs more. Thinking that, and the above thought, I'd change my preference to LSE > EII.
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    Activity relations IS "Semi-dual" isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    Activity relations IS "Semi-dual" isn't it?
    Yes, but it's the wrong half

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    I think I would prefer semi-dual to mirror, but not to activation.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    I don't know how you could like Megan Fox. She's not in your quadra. She VIs nothing like Simon Cowell.
    That's no small coincidence since only Simon Cowell VIs like Simon Cowell.
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    Activity, Identity, Mirror.

    Mirror isn't even that good, a lot of Mirrors feel like they're from different quadras much of the time. Or is that just me? It's like you agree a lot and see the world in similar ways but it's just really boring. You can *Maybe* say the same for Identity but people who are my Identicals tend to be very attractive to me. The EJ temperament of my mirror feels clash-y and annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Activity, Identity, Mirror.

    Mirror isn't even that good, a lot of Mirrors feel like they're from different quadras much of the time. Or is that just me? It's like you agree a lot and see the world in similar ways but it's just really boring. You can *Maybe* say the same for Identity but people who are my Identicals tend to be very attractive to me. The EJ temperament of my mirror feels clash-y and annoying.
    Still, your mirrors will do a better job of providing for your DS than your identicals will.

    I've found my identicals friendly enough, but I haven't spent much time with my mirrors at all IRL... I'll keep an eye out for them. I'll have to check the comparative benefits of HA vs. shared DS for myself.



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    Actually I might say Identical over Activity too. Activity seems like.... idk, hot p0rn sex then once it's all over you're like 'what now?' But hot p0rn sex!

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    Activity, Identical, Mirror for me. I see a lot of potential with identical especially. But if I were not limited to these options, after dual, I would consider; semi-dual, supervisee, benefactor, supervisor.

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    Activity > Mirror > Identical
    LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP



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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    Aries > Libra > Leo > Gemini
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    I'd choose identical, but with reservations (some identicals I get along with great, like brothers, while others are really hard to stand). Then activity, then mirror.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    I think I would prefer semi-dual to mirror, but not to activation.
    Same here. Sex with a complementary from a Romantic attitude point of view is so much better.
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    Hm, it depends what kind of relationships we're talking about. Overall, I'd say activity-identical-mirror but when it comes to work relationships I choose mirror over others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Activity, Identity, Mirror.

    Mirror isn't even that good, a lot of Mirrors feel like they're from different quadras much of the time. Or is that just me? It's like you agree a lot and see the world in similar ways but it's just really boring. You can *Maybe* say the same for Identity but people who are my Identicals tend to be very attractive to me. The EJ temperament of my mirror feels clash-y and annoying.
    Maybe it's just that the EIEs you know are boring people =[.

    I don't care, I'd take any of those three, as long as they were interesting and pretty psychologically healthy. Actually, I would like identical the least, that just wouldn't work aha.

    I think I'd like to have an ESE if I couldn't have my dual .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Really? His eyes are sort of creepy. Like the children in the Total Eclipse of the Heart video level of creepy. Or have you seen him in Sin City? Creepy eyes.
    I think so too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinki View Post
    I think I'd like to have an ESE if I couldn't have my dual .
    dinki, I seriously hope that was a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xkj220 View Post
    Activity, Identical, Mirror for me. I see a lot of potential with identical especially. But if I were not limited to these options, after dual, I would consider; semi-dual, supervisee, benefactor, supervisor.
    you don't really mean you'd put these ahead of same quadra. trust me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Activity, Identity, Mirror.

    Mirror isn't even that good, a lot of Mirrors feel like they're from different quadras much of the time. Or is that just me? It's like you agree a lot and see the world in similar ways but it's just really boring. You can *Maybe* say the same for Identity but people who are my Identicals tend to be very attractive to me. The EJ temperament of my mirror feels clash-y and annoying.
    same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sigma View Post
    Same here. Sex with a complementary from a Romantic attitude point of view is so much better.
    This is interesting - does Rationality change whether semi-dual or mirage is better? Perhaps only for sex, but Rationals will care more about judgments anyway?



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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    you don't really mean you'd put these ahead of same quadra. trust me.
    Hmm... I'm not sure. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the point of relationships, in the context of socionics, developing your "weaknesses"? Engaging frequently with those types would produce the most benefit in the long term. But yeah, you're right, it would be a sort of "experiment" which would produce much friction (especially with the supervisor). Tbh... I think I actually prefer the company of some of the members of my opposing quadra, rather than my own (they seem to "complement" my own thinking very well. See things I overlook, etc). At least to explore possibilities and develop theories, perhaps not so much to establish some sort of personal connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    I'm not sure if that logic makes sense...whatever type your dual or mirror is, their SuperId functions are SuperId functions because of the sheer strength of their Ego. Your dual or mirror is far removed from your opposing quadra...

    I chose Activity, Mirror, Identical rather than Activity, Identical, Mirror because I think a Mirror relationship allows more bases to be covered.
    Nope, you're just being disagreable.

    I'd much rather be around someone who shares my energy levels and general reactive/sporadic productivity, than be around a "lets just stay home tonight" "You're too wild" "You need be able to work when I want you too" Ij.

    INTj's are great, but I'd rather be in a relationship with a fellow ENTp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Nope, you're just being disagreable.

    I'd much rather be around someone who shares my energy levels and general reactive/sporadic productivity, than be around a "lets just stay home tonight" "You're too wild" "You need be able to work when I want you too" Ij.

    INTj's are great, but I'd rather be in a relationship with a fellow ENTp.
    I wasn't actually just being disagreeable. You might argue one way, but someone else might say they dislike being around people of the same temperament because they often find that toes get stood on.

    What do you mean by someone who shares your "energy levels"? Do Ep and Ip temperament types really share the same energy levels compared to the Ij temperament types? An Ij type may be just a fraction away from being their mirror Ep type, and yet they will be quite distinct from the Ip temperament.

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    i would prefer a good illusory or semi dual to mirror
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    I wasn't actually just being disagreeable. You might argue one way, but someone else might say they dislike being around people of the same temperament because they often find that toes get stood on.
    Maybe toes do get stepped on, but I prefer that to what I've experienced with Ij types.

    What do you mean by someone who shares your "energy levels"? Do Ep and Ip temperament types really share the same energy levels compared to the Ij temperament types? An Ij type may be just a fraction away from being their mirror Ep type, and yet they will be quite distinct from the Ip temperament.
    Wikisocion says:

    EPs perceive IPs as pleasantly flexible and responsive to their initiatives, sometimes too unpredictable but for that very reason never boring.

    EPs perceive IJs as too predictable and boring, too unwilling to do things on the spur of the moment.

    EP: impulsive, shifting from apparent inactivity to bursts of energy, often several times a day, showing impatience during them

    IP: finds it easy to spend long periods of time in no activity, or at very low levels of energy

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    (Sometimes called 'shizothymes' in early socionics literature)

    1.Focus on what they think should be said or done in each particular situation
    2.Try to change their state of mind to fit their activity
    3.Respect, honor, and initiate traditions (repeating activities involving other people)
    4.Try to 'civilize' life by introducing good traditions, habits, and structure
    5.Like to take on obligations in advance so that they can prepare for them
    6.Intellectually, usually believe that things should be a certain way and that mankind should strive to materialize that
    7.Tend to act a certain way until circumstances stop them

    Irrationals
    (Sometimes called 'cyclothymes' in early socionics literature)

    1.Focus on their own moods and states of mind and what they feel like saying or doing
    2.Try to change their activity to fit their state of mind
    3.Tend to neglect and forget traditions (repeating activities involving other people) and instead act on their impulses
    4.Try to make life spontaneous by breaking traditions and habits for the sake of spontaneity
    5.Dislike long-term obligations but freely take on short-term obligations if they feel like it
    6.Intellectually, usually believe that things are naturally the way they are, and that mankind should recognize and accept that
    7.More artful at "going with the flow" and change their strategy more quickly

    This dichotomy (rationality and irrationality) plays a particularly important role in intertype interaction. Of the main four dichotomies in socionics (the so-called "Jungian foundation"), rationality/irrationality is the only one that dual types have in common.

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    IJ temperament is the conflicting temperament of EP. EJ is the competing temperament temperament of EP. IP is complementary.

    I don't see how "covering all bases" is equal to or greater than having the same mood and productivity patterns ("common ground").

    Are you going by experience?
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    after dual, I would pick semi-dual or activity.
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    i am also identical>activity>mirror, because I think identicals would be fun to have sex with
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratXII View Post
    i am also identical>activity>mirror, because I think identicals would be fun to have sex with
    you just hope to finally find someone who shares your rare perverted fantasies.

    that is a really good plan.

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