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    You know, observing from a distance, etc. Wondering if there is some sort of correlation. Ni egos maybe?

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    Does blatantly following count?

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    Sure. Some examples:

    1. Following.
    2. Observing from a distance.
    3. Pretending to be immersed in your duties, when in fact you are paying close attention to what the stalked person is saying/doing.

    Etc.

    My idea is that this correlates more strongly with some determinate type of romance style.

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    Hmm...you can put a tally mark under "caregiver."

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    Erm... stalking is expected to be somewhat romantic in nature; I observe people from a distance all the time, but mainly out of curiosity. I don't think that that counts.



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    Ni-egos my ASS. This is insulting to me. I *never* stalk people. I always give them their own space. I think that's just creepy.

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    Erm... stalking is expected to be somewhat romantic in nature
    Nah stalking to me is cowardice. If I like somebody, I just tell them. What is stalking going to do? Although I've had fantasies about *spying* on people I found attractive, I'd never actually do it.

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    I once stalked a guy who had beat his dog. I just wanted to know where he lived in case I saw it happening again so I could do something about it (politely call the police or just slash his face with a chainsaw)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Nah stalking to me is cowardice. If I like somebody, I just tell them. What is stalking going to do? Although I've had fantasies about *spying* on people I found attractive, I'd never actually do it.
    Yeah... it's more like a failed attempt at romance, not the real thing. I think it arises largely from not really knowing what you should be doing.

    The college I'm currently at has had problems with stalking in the past... the male:female ratio is about 3:1, and most of those men are Alpha NTs. What do you get when far too many Alpha NTs try to perform their socially expected behavior of competing over the short supply of girls?



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    Quote Originally Posted by xkj220 View Post
    Sure. Some examples:

    1. Following. [Caregiver?]
    2. Observing from a distance. [Victim, infantile, caregiver. Everyone does this. ]
    3. Pretending to be immersed in your duties, when in fact you are paying close attention to what the stalked person is saying/doing. [Victim, infantile, caregiver. Everyone does this. ]

    Etc.

    My idea is that this correlates more strongly with some determinate type of romance style.
    4. Stalking via the world wide web and being really good at it [Ni egos, maybe]

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    Quote Originally Posted by matilda View Post
    4. Stalking via the world wide web and being really good at it [Ni egos, maybe]
    Thanks, I was forgetting that one

    This is a summary of what I've gathered so far on the subject: Ni egos have what is called the "victim" style. There are two variants of this; the "pseudo aggressor" style (ILI and LIE), and another style that the Ni + Fe egos have, that they sort of turn it into a competition, and become whatever traits they deem appropriate at the moment in order to entice their prospects, while at the same time they seem to ignore them. Somewhat chameleon-like (I think it is called "arrogant victim"). Then there are caregivers (Si egos) -- that can be further sub-categorized into "teachers" (Si + Te). And then there are infantile, the Ne egos, and aggressors, the Se egos. The aggressors pair well with the victims, and the caregivers with the infantiles.

    My hypothesis is that the caregivers and victims are the the most likely to display stalker behavior towards the other two, that are least likely, but each will do it in their own respective style. Ni egos will be more likely to stalk the person in a more "creepy" way, sort of animal like. Si egos will do it it a more gentle manner, looking for keepsakes of their objects of affection, offering to do things for them in a roundabout way, etc.

    The problem is that I am not sure that the romance styles correlate, are what they are supposed to be, for each type. I've read account of Ni egos displaying caregiver behavior, or Ne ego not agreeing with the "infantile" style. Or any given type displaying a different interaction style depending on the style of the love interest in question, or their own maturity level.

    So now I ask you guys who are reading this; do you overall agree with the romance style you are supposed to have?
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    yes.

    A better name for Alpha NT romantic style might be "playful-avoidant" though.
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    That's interesting. Let's see if we can get a little summary phrase like that for each of the styles:

    Alpha NT: Playful-avoidant
    Alpha SF: ?

    Beta ST: ?
    Beta NF: Arrogant-victim

    Gamma NT: Pseudo-agressor
    Gamma SF: ?

    Delta ST: Teacher
    Delta NF: ?

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    Too perjorative.

    Alpha NT: Playful-avoidant
    Alpha SF: Maternal Caregiver

    Beta ST: Aggressor (?)
    Beta NF: Victim

    Gamma NT: ?
    Gamma SF: Aggressor (?)

    Delta ST: Teacher/Paternal Caregiver
    Delta NF: Innocent

    fuck i wasnt much better lol
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    Beta ST: Conqueror
    Beta NF: Prize

    leftylib gave phrases for all of these in another thread: Short descriptions of 8 romance styles

    Actually it might be worthwhile to call these quadra+Static/Dynamic, as in:
    Gamma Dynamic: Pseudo-Aggressor
    Gamma Static: Employer
    Beta Dynamic: Prize
    Beta Static: Conqueror
    Delta Dynamic: Teacher
    Delta Static: Pseudo-Caregiver
    Alpha Dynamic: Caregiver
    Alpha Static: Childlike



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    Based on my observation: I would say that the XIE types are "pseudo-aggressor" and the XSI types are "pseudo-victim". They switch roles constantly.

    IEI and ILI are "pure victim", and SLE and SEE "pure aggressor".

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    I think the pseudo-aggressor and pseudo-victim labels refer to Logic vs. Ethics - that is, Feelers are quite a bit nicer than Thinkers, which can make the Thinkers seem aggressive and the Feelers seem submissive.



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    I think that affects too, but having Se HA or Ni HA is more important.

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    intuitive introverted types maybe?

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    I don't believe stalking is related to the Erotic Styles. I think many types are capable of USING their ego functions for that end if they believe strongly in the reason for the stalking. For instance I can easily see an "Infantile" Alpha NT doing so--to catch someone who is up to some wrong doing that will have a negative impact on them personally. I can see Delta STs, all Betas, and all Gammas CAPABLE of stalking if they wanted to. Least likely in my opinion would be Alpha SFs and Delta NFs.

    As for myself, if I liked someone, I would personally see stalking as an artificial way of acquiring what I typically go out of my way to ensure is authentic. My relationships need to feel real and true and strong from within--not fabricated, tricked or "willed" into existence.

    I HAVE used my Ni though to avoid certain people who were invading my time and space. Purposely changing my route or rearranging my schedule to ensure I miss them. That would just make my life easier overall. Using Te/Ni is WAY easier for me than getting into a situation where I then must use any kind of F! I think with respect to social interaction, Gamma NTs can "take it or leave it". So if missing a really good party or social function will mean not having to see or deal with someone we don't want to (i.e. thereby invoking F!), we will see that as a winning trade off. I left Facebook over two years ago, and many people actually became upset with me. So I guess it is my opinion that Gamma NTs may employ their Ni for "reverse" stalking--to preserve their individual power, and to not be a "Victim".

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    No correlation LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    hahaha nice one wacey

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    Last edited by wacey; 03-15-2015 at 02:26 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeves View Post
    intuitive introverted types maybe?
    The ones I know are too lazy for physical stalking. Stalking is hard work. If they stalk it probably would have to be through intuitive connection or maybe social media. Ethical or Logical bases likely stalk for different reasons than intuitives. Base Sensors are more up front in finding out what you are up to or just don't care, depending on introverted or extroverted. Really I have no clue since I just made this all up in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    Yeah... it's more like a failed attempt at romance, not the real thing. I think it arises largely from not really knowing what you should be doing.

    The college I'm currently at has had problems with stalking in the past... the male:female ratio is about 3:1, and most of those men are Alpha NTs. What do you get when far too many Alpha NTs try to perform their socially expected behavior of competing over the short supply of girls?
    Ugh sounds terrible. On that note, my vote does in fact go to alpha NTs for types likely to engage in stalkerish behavior.

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