Why so dead?

[Banana Pancakes]

Where'd the alphails go?

[The Exception]

Where'd the alphails go?

They're out on a picnic.

[Creepy-bg]

I thought we were playing the quiet game :/

[Krig the Viking]

People don't let me play the quiet game, being LII and all. I always win.

[Logos]

People don't let me play the quiet game, being LII and all. I always win.

I'm usually the first to talk. I like to lose early so I have an excuse to leave for more (un)productive pursuits of my liking.

[Banana Pancakes]

They're out on a picnic.

I was not aware of any picnic

[munenori2]

I was not aware of any picnic

Er, um...yeah...awwwwkward....

[Banana Pancakes]

Er, um...yeah...awwwwkward....

[Mediator Kam]

I am going to a college where the majority of students I interact with are alphas and possibly deltas. So I'm off doing my work and hanging off people's necks socializing like a socialist.

[Creepy-bg]

I am going to a college where the majority of students I interact with are alphas and possibly deltas. So I'm off doing my work and hanging off people's necks socializing like a socialist.

school and friends are no excuse for neglecting the internet.

[Mediator Kam]

I have bet the house on real life it seems.

[munenori2]

[Khola aka Bee]

I'm still here Jeremi <3

[The Exception]

People don't let me play the quiet game, being LII and all. I always win.

I just lost because I laughed at your quote.

[Krig the Viking]

I just lost because I laughed at your quote.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

Removed at User Request

[Krig the Viking]

I'm out for a puke.

I've been sitting here for well over a minute, trying to figure out what you're trying to say, with no luck.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

Removed at User Request

[Krig the Viking]

Ah... much better.

@Banana Pancakes: it's because people like you raid it. I think you already know who I'm talking about.

This "Alpha" subforum is like a company party: you go there and have to be smiley and happy, but actually you find nothing interesting.
Btw about your signature, I think you're ESI more than EII, I just wanted to be polite and avoid saying you're my conflictor just because we don't like each other.

@Krieg: I'm sick of these impostors. They're the first ones to care about the "Alpha place", the "Alpha way", "Alpha gatherings" and all this crap. Or to demonstrate they're Alpha.
Out of them, only Logos doesn't annoy me (afaik), he's just LSI.
He doesn't bother me for one of two reasons: either because he's Fe valuing (mn0good, Khola and BP are Fi-val and I feel a strong turn-off in their posts) or because he's not trying to demonstrate his Alpha-ness so often, he minds his own business instead.

Ahh, ok. Now I understand.

I know what you mean about the "company party" atmosphere here. It's actually the main reason I didn't join this forum before I did. I stumbled across this place a long time ago in my socionics studies, found lots of funny pictures and in-jokes, misleading thread titles that seemed to be about socionics but were actually not, but nothing particularly interesting, socionics-wise. I didn't come back until I came across a link to some posts by Expat that were informative and useful.

It's better now than it was then, though. There are actual interesting threads here, and less random nonsense.

I don't know mn0good, Khola, or BP well enough to comment on their types, though.

[munenori2]

There are actual interesting threads here, and less random nonsense.

[Krig the Viking]

Shun, shuuuuun.

[Creepy-bg]

1. Consensuses of futility

“Language is fundamentally elitist,” says Baudrillard. Therefore, in Sex, Madonna examines the neodialectic paradigm of narrative; in Erotica, however, she deconstructs capitalist nationalism.

Sartre promotes the use of structuralist nihilism to deconstruct hierarchy. It could be said that the characteristic theme of the works of Madonna is the role of the reader as poet.

Many dematerialisms concerning Foucaultist power relations exist. In a sense, the subject is contextualised into a capitalist nationalism that includes art as a reality.

Structuralist nihilism states that context is created by the collective unconscious, but only if sexuality is interchangeable with truth. But several theories concerning not, in fact, semioticism, but presemioticism may be revealed.

2. Capitalist nationalism and the subdialectic paradigm of discourse

In the works of Madonna, a predominant concept is the concept of deconstructive consciousness. Lyotard uses the term ‘textual postdialectic theory’ to denote a self-referential paradox. In a sense, if posttextual patriarchial theory holds, we have to choose between structuralist nihilism and precultural narrative.

Many situationisms concerning semanticist deconstruction exist. Thus, the stasis of the subdialectic paradigm of discourse which is a central theme of Madonna’s Sex emerges again in Erotica, although in a more subdialectic sense.

The subject is interpolated into a Foucaultist power relations that includes reality as a reality. But Lyotard uses the term ‘the subdialectic paradigm of discourse’ to denote not situationism, as structuralist nihilism suggests, but neosituationism.

3. Realities of fatal flaw

“Society is responsible for the status quo,” says Debord; however, according to Prinn[1] , it is not so much society that is responsible for the status quo, but rather the rubicon, and subsequent meaninglessness, of society. In Pulp Fiction, Tarantino reiterates textual postdialectic theory; in Four Rooms he denies the cultural paradigm of narrative. In a sense, Sartre suggests the use of textual postdialectic theory to modify and attack consciousness.

Bailey[2] holds that we have to choose between structuralist nihilism and postsemiotic dematerialism. Therefore, Baudrillard promotes the use of the subdialectic paradigm of discourse to deconstruct hierarchy.

The primary theme of Wilson’s[3] critique of cultural discourse is the role of the artist as participant. In a sense, if the subdialectic paradigm of discourse holds, we have to choose between structuralist nihilism and pretextual appropriation.

The subject is contextualised into a subdialectic paradigm of discourse that includes language as a totality. Therefore, the main theme of the works of Tarantino is the bridge between class and art.

4. Structuralist nihilism and dialectic Marxism

If one examines subtextual dematerialism, one is faced with a choice: either accept structuralist nihilism or conclude that the State is capable of truth. Sartre suggests the use of textual postdialectic theory to modify sexual identity. It could be said that Dahmus[4] suggests that we have to choose between dialectic Marxism and capitalist objectivism.

“Society is intrinsically meaningless,” says Bataille; however, according to Dietrich[5] , it is not so much society that is intrinsically meaningless, but rather the defining characteristic, and some would say the rubicon, of society. Lacan promotes the use of structuralist nihilism to challenge class divisions. Thus, if textual postdialectic theory holds, the works of Stone are reminiscent of Glass.

Several narratives concerning not theory, but neotheory may be discovered. In a sense, in Platoon, Stone affirms structuralist nihilism; in Natural Born Killers, however, he reiterates textual postdialectic theory.

Many narratives concerning dialectic Marxism exist. It could be said that the subject is interpolated into a predialectic discourse that includes narrativity as a whole.

Marx uses the term ’structuralist nihilism’ to denote a mythopoetical totality. But an abundance of theories concerning the difference between class and sexual identity may be revealed.

Foucault’s analysis of dialectic Marxism states that the significance of the writer is social comment, given that textual postdialectic theory is invalid. However, Debord uses the term ‘the textual paradigm of context’ to denote not discourse as such, but subdiscourse.

[Creepy-bg]

on a (somewhat) more serious note, if you want threads of substance and alpha socionics discussions that interest you, I direct your attention to a feature of the forum that you must be overlooking...

any irrelevant posts which may occur can be easily dealt with by using the following feature which comes with your computer...

welcome to the internet, enjoy your stay.

[Creepy-Cyclops]

Pinocchio, you seem like the Dad of the forum here to chastise us all for our pillow fights and shenanigans when we should really be doing our homework!

Ha, just joking really. I don't have an opinion on many of the peoples types you mentioned. It can seem that threads on this alpha forum can maybe go one way or another, like for instance extreme "silly" talk or extreme "intense" talk. Man, i'm no expert on the circumstances of it all, but for instance, if i'm sitting at work, people around me are being boring, I can always log on here and "lol" at some stupid thread, or I can go and talk about some socionic thing, or start a thread of my own. Although I agree with what you're saying in someways, I also agree with Krigg that overall the forums better, more balanced and "adjusted" or some word, than it's been for ages.

Anyway, I understand if you are moaning, that in itself is entertainment to an extent

[Banana Pancakes]

epheremos is still clinging to his delusions of being alpha?

That's for crapping on a perfectly good thread with your arrogant attacks. Best alpha ever.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

Removed at User Request

[Creepy-female]

I want to put a Darth Vader voice synthesizer on Ephemeros' adam's apple. That is all.

[ArchonAlarion]

1. Ephemeros is certainly ILE

2. Banana Pancakes is certainly ILE

3. Hitta II was actually Dolphin and my mind has been blown.

[Banana Pancakes]

... and all this began with a puke.

@BP: if your insinuation had a real base, the only available option would be that I'm Beta - even you admit yourself that I'm a Fi non-valuer. So either way I've be turned-off by Fi, so either way I'd be bothered by your style. That you can't differentiate ILE from SLE, this is a different problem, the only thing you prove is that you live in a fantasy world.

Beta makes more sense. I've never "admitted" that you're not Fi. Personally I don't care what your type is and don't desire to interact with you enough to form an opinion.

My favorite part about your comments is when you project your delusions on everyone else. I'M the one in the fantasy world? Right.

This thread is supposed to ask why Alpha people are not socially active in their sub-forum, am I correct? Finding my answer an attack is regrettable, may I answer why you concluded that? Why do you consider offensive the fact that I said you're impostors? Do you find inappropriate my justified reservation towards your membership to the ILE type and the fact that I tell it openly?

Congratulations, you understand the question posed in the thread. Why are there no new posts in the alpha subforum? Your post was off topic and uncalled for.

How is it an attack???

@Banana Pancakes: it's because people like you raid it. I think you already know who I'm talking about.

I'm curious how any sane person could not see this as an intentional attempt to get a rise out of me. This quadra subforum is (at least historically) a place to hang out and relax with alpha members, not a place to argue your specific opinions of mine and others' types.

Now, as to your opinion of me not being ILE, I don't have a problem with that opinion existing. If you would like to make a logical, comprehensive claim in a separate thread in an appropriate forum ("what's my type" would be a good one, "alternative socionics theories" would be better) I would be more than happy to address it.

Your current strategy, however, is childish and asinine. Stop mentioning your opinion of my type in unrelated threads. If you think everyone in alpha is typed wrong, by all means START A DEDICATED THREAD FOR YOUR COMMENTS ON MY TYPE. Stop cluttering everything else. Every time you post it derails threads while half a dozen people argue with you. I've done my best not to fall into that trap but you continue to follow me around yapping like a little dog "you're not ILE ruff ruff ruff".

[Banana Pancakes]

I don't give a fuck what any of your types are. Does anyone else like TV?

Only when COPS is on and they're raiding your house again.

[Banana Pancakes]

The cops don't raid my house!

sorry, SWAT team.

[ArchonAlarion]

Only when COPS is on and they're raiding your house again.

allow me to take offense,

...

fuck COPS.

[Banana Pancakes]

allow me to take offense,

...

fuck COPS.

[Creepy-female]

This is a happy story in the sense that an 3 year spiritual awakening nightmare is over and a kidnapping case solved – but what happened over those 3 years is just stomach-churningly horrendous and almost beyond belief. On April 1, 2007, Paul David Hewson, age 46, was kidnapped by a blonde in a car, right in front of his wife, Alison Hewson.

“As soon as I saw the door fly open, the driver’s door, I jumped on my motorized scooter and tried to get to the top of the hill but my 2 inch long fake nails prevented me from accelerating. I stomped my feet and yelled at my neighbor, There's a dingo in the backseat!” Alison recalled.

Today it was announced that not only has Paul David Hewson been found, but he’s alive and well eating homemade salsa and lime cheesecake in the basement of his kidnapper. He has expressed a very strong desire to stay there. His kidnapper's only comment was, "He wears those sunglasses for a reason. Bloody fools."

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

Removed at User Request

[Creepy-female]

[Banana Pancakes]

So you're the only one I know who thinks I'm a Fi valuer. Even Vero and Khola realize I'm a Fi PoLR.
Then, motivationally, Alphas get very well along with Betas. This time I warn you that "motivationally" restricts the meaning of the phrase, ok?
IMO, you are boring and faded for ILEs and SLEs alike. Just a subjective but sincere impression.

I'd like everyone to read over what I said and pinocchio's translation here. It's a prime example of his idiotic re-interpretation.

Nowhere did I say you either were or were not Fi valuing. Not once. You could be alpha, you could be beta, you could be zeta, I don't care.

As long as our community's consensus is that I'm an ILE and your question asked Alpha about their non-involvement, you called for my opinion implicitly.
If you really want to get rig of my annoying opinions you'll have the hard task to change the consensus, but as long as this will obviously would attract an undesirable opposition, you won't do it.

Hold up, you're saying there's a community consensus you're ILE? We're going by consensus now? There sure as hell is a consensus I'm ILE, in fact I started a thread and no one made any arguments against ILE.

Again, in big letters
I'M NOT TRYING TO RE-TYPE YOU. YOU'RE THE ONE WHO INSISTS ON TRYING TO RE-TYPE ME.

Let me remind you that this is a Socionics forum and your only right to claim Alpha membership is based on your real personality type, therefore independent on your (or anyone's) own will. It is not up to you to claim property here.
I don't give a shit if you like it or not, I'm justified to challenge your type at any moment as long as I have logical justifications.

I'm not "willing myself" to be alpha. It's simply the best fit. If you would like to convince me otherwise, please, make a logical case with evidence. YOU are the one making a claim against consensus (consensus being that I'm ILE), so it is YOUR JOB TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE, NOT MINE.

I've explain with other occasion why you are not an ILE. And:
1. You have no evidence of being ILE - provided by you, or someone else. If I'm wrong, you're free to prove otherwise.
2. As long as my (and others', if any) previous claims were not solved, you may not be de facto an ILE - but rather the other way around - therefore I have the right to debate your Socionics-related opinions in every thread.

Okay so let me see here. I claim pinocchio is, I dunno, IEI. Since this previous claim isn't solved, pinocchio is not de facto an ILE, and I get to derail threads. It's your own logic, there you have it.

I already explained you that I don't give a shit about your biased view on me, and that you are the one who's off-topic, shamelessly defying Socionics rules and our respect.
Your lack of respect towards everyone interested in Socionics is also proved by your opinionated stance combined with a shallow knowledge and trivial posts. [I apologize the others for any, unintended, collateral damage]

And yet you continue to bring it up. How about you stop interacting with me?

I agree with many of the Alpha people types on the forum, your remark - that I said all Aphas users are mistyped - prove your hypocrisy once again.

The only "alpha" I DON'T agree with is you. By your logic, since you disagree with more alphas than I do, you're the one who's not alpha.

Any more logical fallacies you'd like to present in lieu of actual evidence as to my type?

[Creepy-female]

Carla. Paul David Hewson says he'd like more chipotle in his salsa, STAT.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

Removed at User Request

[Banana Pancakes]

But your claims were based on it:



My opinion in this Alpha thread is based on it as well.

1. You asked Alphas opinions why they are not active.
2. I am Alpha.
3. You have nothing against the fact that I'm Alpha. (Or do you? This is the mystery)
---
Result: it was perfectly correct to say my opinion in this thread.

Everything else in post #18 were only intended to support this opinion, not to type you in this thread.

My mistake, from now on I'll preface all threads as "to all self typed alphas EXCEPT EPHEREMOS" so you won't have to answer.

I made that comment about your type in retaliation to your previous comment about my type (as well as my obvious identical, vero the ILE, and obvious dual, bee the SEI, as they will confirm).

I have no problem with your self typing as ILE. You can continue to type yourself ILE as much as you want. If you continue to comment about my type, I will comment just as much about yours in return, however. I'm not someone you can steamroll with your supposed flawless understanding of socionics.

All I'm looking for here is you to shut your yappy little mouth about my type unless you're going to make a formal case in a separate thread.