Do you talk about socionics w people in real life?

[Creepy-]

If yes, with whom? If no, why not?

[Brilliand]

Yes; I don't talk about it often, because I can't explain it very clearly, but sometimes I'll mention it to someone who likes me enough that they won't start ignoring me if I become incoherent.

[The Exception]

No, I don't, but I secretly socioanalyze them.

[munenori2]

Not really. I might talk about it a little with my brother when he asks questions about random socionics stuff that gets thrown around during our dnd sessions. Or when I'm drunk and I'm with good friends, like my ESFj friend (formerly known as ESFp friend) where I'll bring it up in reference to him talking about types of people. We were at a bar once and he asked what I thought about him theorywise and I told him he'd really like nerdy girls and he was like "I TOTALLY DO, MAN!"

[FDG]

Very rarely, only if a really complicated social/emotional situation that can be explained via socionics develops in a group of people I know, and the person I'm talking with is sufficiently open-minded not to outright reject what I'm explaning.

[Creepy-bg]

only during sex and in public restrooms

[olduser]

no. i don't want anybody to secretly hate me more than they already do. plus i live in wyoming-- discussing someone's ego with them is grounds for a asskicking! 'i'm billy bob the giant truck driving redneck and no one tells billy bob the giant truck driving redneck about billy bob the giant truck driving redneck.'

[jewels]

I find I get pretty bored at bars when my friends are hitting on people, etc., so I'll often figure out the types of random strangers, who get all enthralled as they like the attention and feel it's some sorta magic trick. I'll describe functions w/o using the actually names for things and they'll be like OMG how did you know?

Also, it's a good way to deal w/ guys I don't like (as long as they're a less compatible type w/ me). I can give them a quick overview of why our types would clash and then recommend their dual to them.

I also tell my friends who their duals are (without using any of the terminology).

Just at a dive bar last night I was telling an ESFj friend about INTjs, and it was pretty much the type of guy she looks for. I kept making comments to my INTJ friend about various couples who were duals/good matches (she's super used to me doing this by now -- she used to have me figure out the types of guys she was dating, etc. She's now w/ her dual! yay)

The key is to not make it sound nerdy. If you break out the functions and stuff, that would be weird. But if you put it in normal language, you can really use it at any time.

Well, maybe not any time -- I hear you on that Heath! I think I would keep quiet there as well! But in NYC people are pretty open minded thank god.

[The Exception]

I talk to myself about socionics, does that count?

[717495]

I've talked about it with people who I know won't make fun of me, in front of me. I don't think any of the few people have made fun of me behind my back.

[Blaze]

I find I get pretty bored at bars when my friends are hitting on people, etc., so I'll often figure out the types of random strangers, who get all enthralled as they like the attention and feel it's some sorta magic trick. I'll describe functions w/o using the actually names for things and they'll be like OMG how did you know?

Also, it's a good way to deal w/ guys I don't like (as long as they're a less compatible type w/ me). I can give them a quick overview of why our types would clash and then recommend their dual to them.

I also tell my friends who their duals are (without using any of the terminology).

Just at a dive bar last night I was telling an ESFj friend about INTjs, and it was pretty much the type of guy she looks for. I kept making comments to my INTJ friend about various couples who were duals/good matches (she's super used to me doing this by now -- she used to have me figure out the types of guys she was dating, etc. She's now w/ her dual! yay)

The key is to not make it sound nerdy. If you break out the functions and stuff, that would be weird. But if you put it in normal language, you can really use it at any time.

Well, maybe not any time -- I hear you on that Heath! I think I would keep quiet there as well! But in NYC people are pretty open minded thank god.

exactly. i do this too...talk about socionics without calling it socionics or getting overly technical. people are very interested usually. and you help people, so it's cool.

[1981slater]

THE EIGHT RULES OF SOCIONICS

1 - Don't talk about Socionics

2 - You DO NOT talk about Socionics

3 - When someone says "I know my type", or goes limp, even if he's just faking it, the typing is over

4 - Only two guys to a typing

5 - One typing at a time

6 - They type without MBTI or Enneagram

7 - The typings go on as long as they have to (for instance, Joy's typing began in 2005 and is still ongoing. Some say it actually began in the Jurassic age)

8 - If this is your first night at the forum, you have to be typed

[leckysupport]

Nah, it takes time and patience, both of which I don't have.

'i'm billy bob the giant truck driving redneck and no one tells billy bob the giant truck driving redneck about billy bob the giant truck driving redneck.'

lol

[Park]

As a rule, I do not even hint at socionics with people IRL and only to the bare minimum online outside of the community. That's not to say that I do not apply socionics everywhere I go though I am not overly rigid about it, but I just notice a lot of things which make sense in the context of the theory. I'm the observer type, after all.

Something like this.

[redbaron]

no. i don't want anybody to secretly hate me more than they already do. plus i live in wyoming-- discussing someone's ego with them is grounds for a asskicking! 'i'm billy bob the giant truck driving redneck and no one tells billy bob the giant truck driving redneck about billy bob the giant truck driving redneck.'

[redbaron]

slater, that was hilarious.

I don't talk about it cause people think it's MBTI and I just don't have the patience to go into detail about the differences. I have one friend irl who sort of knows the theory but I think she's skeptical anyway so I rarely mention it. My husband kinda knows too but doesn't put much stock in it. I do, however, talk about it in regular language sometimes and there are some people who sort of get it instinctively, which is cool. My SLE friend for instance, seems to know exactly what I'm talking about.

[olduser]

YouTube - 8 Rules of Fight Club Trailer

THE EIGHT RULES OF SOCIONICS

1 - Don't talk about Socionics

2 - You DO NOT talk about Socionics

3 - When someone says "I know my type", or goes limp, even if he's just faking it, the typing is over

4 - Only two guys to a typing

5 - One typing at a time

6 - They type without MBTI or Enneagram

7 - The typings go on as long as they have to (for instance, Joy's typing began in 2005 and is still ongoing. Some say it actually began in the Jurassic age)

8 - If this is your first night at the forum, you have to be typed

hahah

[tiny_dancer]

A little bit. It's just too convoluted to explain, so I don't bother most of the time.

[DirectorAbbie]

Certainly I talk about it! I am the Aaron to a Moses. Last year, I was collecting people's types. I now have over a hundred. I mention things like black circle, white L, and black L in normal conversation. It's like using big words...some people understand it, and those that don't just think I'm smart.

[07490]

YouTube - 8 Rules of Fight Club Trailer

THE EIGHT RULES OF SOCIONICS

1 - Don't talk about Socionics

2 - You DO NOT talk about Socionics

3 - When someone says "I know my type", or goes limp, even if he's just faking it, the typing is over

4 - Only two guys to a typing

5 - One typing at a time

6 - They type without MBTI or Enneagram

7 - The typings go on as long as they have to (for instance, Joy's typing began in 2005 and is still ongoing. Some say it actually began in the Jurassic age)

8 - If this is your first night at the forum, you have to be typed

LOL!

[Slacker]

Only with my husband.

[redbaron]

Certainly I talk about it! I am the Aaron to a Moses. Last year, I was collecting people's types. I now have over a hundred. I mention things like black circle, white L, and black L in normal conversation. It's like using big words...some people understand it, and those that don't just think I'm smart.

or... crazy.

[stevENTj]

generally no, but...

The key is to not make it sound nerdy. If you break out the functions and stuff, that would be weird. But if you put it in normal language, you can really use it at any time.

Same here. If I ever do try to discuss socionics related concepts I translate it into real-world terms first. Otherwise it's pointless. Most people have absolutely no interest in complicated abstract theories.

[1981slater]

First rule of project Socionics is...

you DO NOT talk about Socionics

[jewels]

LOL, 1981Slater, that is hilarious!

[Animal]

Never. They might find this forum.

[ScarlettLux]

YouTube - 8 Rules of Fight Club Trailer

THE EIGHT RULES OF SOCIONICS

1 - Don't talk about Socionics

2 - You DO NOT talk about Socionics

3 - When someone says "I know my type", or goes limp, even if he's just faking it, the typing is over

4 - Only two guys to a typing

5 - One typing at a time

6 - They type without MBTI or Enneagram

7 - The typings go on as long as they have to (for instance, Joy's typing began in 2005 and is still ongoing. Some say it actually began in the Jurassic age)

8 - If this is your first night at the forum, you have to be typed

Gold.

[betterthan]

or... crazy.

! Haha, whoa identicalness, I had just thought that ^^.


& No I don't! It would take too long to explain it to people, people would misunderstand, become type prejudice, argue about their type, think i'm crazy. Oh, wait, I did tell my sister, who's really into it and always asks me about her dual - but that's different, you can talk about random geeky things with them. I also mentioned it to my IEI friend, but I haven't gone in to it further because I realize this would be a bad idea and he never really got it or was too interested in it anyways. But I do think that's kind of cool Abbie, though I would never do it myself.

(Also a while ago I used to worry that if I told my dual, they'd leave me to find a 'better one'. Rofl. )

:redface:

[betterthan]

Never. They might find this forum.

And this

[betterthan]

First rule of project Socionics is...

you DO NOT talk about Socionics

LOL

[Joy]

Yes, with a lot of different people. Family, friends, business acquaintances...

[JWC3]

I try not to unless people express an interest in it, which isn't that uncommon since my two friends who are into socionics as much as I am bring it up in public all the time and usually I can explain it the best.

If I'm going to bring it up on my own initiative it is usually with activity partners since I can usually talk to them about anything.

Most often though Beta NFs are the only ones who I talk to it about who don't already know something about socionics. That's mostly because beta NFs in general, I find, Tend to have that "You don't know me as well as you think you do" Thing going on, to which I usually chuckle and respond "You'd be surprised"

[betterthan]

I try not to unless people express an interest in it, which isn't that uncommon since my two friends who are into socionics as much as I am bring it up in public all the time and usually I can explain it the best.

If I'm going to bring it up on my own initiative it is usually with activity partners since I can usually talk to them about anything.

Most often though Beta NFs are the only ones who I talk to it about who don't already know something about socionics. That's mostly because beta NFs in general, I find, Tend to have that "You don't know me as well as you think you do" Thing going on, to which I usually chuckle and respond "You'd be surprised"

Lol.

[1981slater]

New members should know the old rules

[DirectorAbbie]

or... crazy.

True.

[Bardia]

Never. They might find this forum.

Haha this is always in the back of my mind when I tell someone about socionics...

I've told a few people about it. Mostly because they were interested in MBTI and I explained how socionics was superior and different.

[Absurd]

If no, why not?

No. They've got better things to do.

[humblepie]

i talk about it to anyone who'll listen. i'm starting to bug myself now though, i'm too obsessed! there's just so much information to take in and analyse, it's never ending.

a friend of mine (isfp) and her boyfriend (entp) were having problems ( she found him lurking on a dating site and kicked him out) they have a kid together so i emailed all the info about what an isfp-sei and entp- ile is. i emailed her the description of this dual pair also.

i called in to see her last week and her boyfriend drove me home. he said " i heard about all that weirdo voodoo shit you showed my girlfriend" i was like it isn't voodoo shit, it's real. i asked him if the description fitted him and he said he didn't even read it but that he thought it helped his case in winning her back. we had a 20 minute conversation where i was able to give him concrete reasons as to why she would be good for him and he agreed. my dad is entp and my mam is isfj so it was easy for me to see how an isfp would make a better match. ok he probably would have come to the realisation himself but probably not as quickly. thanks to socionics their beautiful baby daughter has more of a chance of having mammy and daddy stay together.

made all my weirdo over analysis worth it seeing how it can be applied to the real world like that. i was in enfp meddling heaven.

[humblepie]

I only mention it on those very rare occasions that someone who seems intelligent and potentially interested is into MBTI. Then I might mention it. I generally don't, though, particular because of the existence of this forum, but I do take some risks and figure the hell with it, most people don't pay any attention to it, anyways, and the ones who do pay attention are probably going to benefit from it and not judge me as being wonky more than I am.

But it's a reason why sometimes people mention socionics stuff on my FB and I read it and delete it before other people read it because I am very selective about what group of people I introduce the subject to. It's not something I actually talk about, though.

In short: Socionics is a taboo subject to talk about, but I am willing to make exceptions and break the rules and put myself at risk, time to time, if I feel the risk is minimum, worth it, or just don't give a shit and feel like gambling and stepping out of my comfort zone. It's usually done out of a desire to see others use it positively and so benefit from it and benefit the wider community if they happen to make progress in some way. That's the way advancement happens. And because watching people cling to and champion MBTI hurts something deep inside of me so long as I see the system as inherently flawed and primitive, to be a pretentious ass about it.

Or in short:



This. Except I don't explain Socionics as superior, I just hope that they see that on their own.

since there are people of all types here you would think it wouldn't be as taboo as it seems. anything new is taboo i guess. people here are the same people IRL. most people just don't know any better i suppose, so they poopoo it just to be safe.

i have one enfj friend who thinks it's just like astrology eventhough i managed to type her correctly before she took the test. it wasn't just luck that i chose correctly out of 16 possibilities. she told me one night to shut up about it, that it was all a whole lot of nonsense. i have another enfj friend who i just introduced to it and she can't get enough. she let me ramble on for 3 hours about it the other night. it was great. i love her for it.

sorry if the letters enfj offend you, i just couldn't be bothered looking up what they are in socionics terms. it's harder to remember them for some reason.

[humblepie]

Well, it's more like that with MBTI, it's more widely accepted and if you are studying it and participate in active communities, well, you are one of many. With Socionics, if you study the theory and are an active community member (which is entirely online), you are putting yourself out there.

It's more of a cross between wanting to study this and be anonymous and wanting to share the theory at the risk of not only being seen as a crackpot but also having your anonymous persona be at risk. Some people I wouldn't care if they knew my real and online persona, but others I would feel very uncomfortable with this. The solution is to really self-censor myself online, but do I really want to do that? I just have to deal with the risk, then, and accept that as part of living freely in an age where you are monitored like cattle via technology.

But having, for a long time, lived in fear about such matters, I find calculating the risks but taking some, anyways, and aiming for freedom to be more satisfying than not speaking out and not truly living the role I am called to live.

I suppose having been a religious fanatic and having put myself out there and have hurt my repute with friends and allies on numerous occasions to not hide my true beliefs and having been rejected by many people for that, strangers and friends, has led me to not give a shit in the long run and realize that anything can happen but being so cautious to let nothing happen is not always the best thing to do as it means missing out on a lot of opportunities for yourself and for others. Back then, I thought I had a solution to problems and sacrificed my comfort and reputation to offer that to other people. I was not pushing it, just being vocal (and rarely to people's faces). I faced a lot of ridicule, verbal harassment from complete strangers, and lost friends and had prospective romances fucked over (with people who thought I would judge them for lifestyle issues). It did much to cure my avoidance of people and my extreme shyness and extreme fear of speaking anything controversial which might hurt me reputation wise or emotionally, not that I am advocating that method or saying I was right, but my heart was in the right place, I think. But a similar principle applies, I guess.

everyone thinks i'm mad anyway so there's no fear of me damaging my reputation. i have done so much observing in the last few years that i am convinced there is definately something to all of this. i have backed down from outlandish claims i have made in the past but i will never back down on this cos it all just makes too much sense. i'm kind of semi dualised now and with my logic being a bit stronger than it used to be i feel alot more confident in the fact that i am right. and seeing how my predictions were correct for my isfp friend and her boyfriend have only strengthened my resolve. i think when you realise that the reason people poopoo your claims is more to do with them not wanting to look foolish than it is to do with logic then all there is left for you to do is go forth and educate without fear of ridicule.

what kind of religious fanatic were you?