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    Well, let me get straight to the point instead of dancing around. I don't know my type. I haven't paid much attention to the rest of this forum, and I'm aware that this is only my first post. I probably wont ever post here again after I receive a response.

    I'm confused about my type. I have been assured that I am INxx. However, there is a lot of confusion as to those last two letters and what they could be. I was once told that maybe I just haven't "decided yet" on T/F or P/J. I think this is utter crap, and that people have to have a preference. Most people online who I chat with claim I'm INTJ. I'd like some outside opinions on this. If any of you are familiar with written identification of types then please feel free to have a go at me.

    So here's a bit about myself:

    Normally, in casual chat I'm not interested in specifics. I like to have the freedom of being general and inexact without having to worry about having every word I say looked at and turned over or dissected. I usually am well aware that the things that come out of my mouth, and the things that I realise internally are two different worlds. Often times I know something isn't 'exactly' right, but I'll say it anyway, and I usually get a lot of crap from some people for this.

    I'm not afraid of emotions, as much of the T descriptions might imply someone who scores as T would be, but I also don't prefer to indulge in hugging/intimate contact with anyone except for perhaps my girlfriend. I also have a young niece who is two that I hug. I made it a point to attempt to tell her that I love her, however that has not gone over well at all, and I find I just prefer to show those things by my decisions and judgement rather than say them. I am not very good at being understanding of the emotions of others. The only time I was was when I was in a highly emotionally manipulative relationship with an ENFP. That was hell... on ice.

    I know for a fact that I'm Introverted. I've studied the ins and outs of the differences between INFP, INFJ, INTP, and INTJ. (Fi, Ne) (Ni, Fe) (Ti, Ne) and (Ni, Te). It's difficult for me to decide which I prefer, because I don't really extravert much at all to anyone. I'm extremely introverted, and I don't really know anyone other than my family (who claim that I obsess over MBTi results WAY too much) who would help me in determining my actual type. So it's obvious I've taken into account that my subjective biadness of my actions and reasoning may be taken into consideration when answering the questions of the MBTi.

    Anyway, maybe some of you will be able to give me some insight. Maybe you can just suggest some ways that I might be able to find my type that I haven't covered already. I've tried books and a multitude of tests, short of paying $100+ for an official consultation over the phone of the MBTi. I don't plan on wasting that much money on finding my type out. I'm not rich. I've read nearly all the type descriptions.

    I'll look forward to your responses & input.

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    i have a different possible conclusion in mind than pedro's (though his was certainly well justified). but i'd like to know more about your background, i.e. family relationships, age, work/education history and how you've responded to work and formal education environments. if you don't want to add any more information i'll understand.


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    Edited for gayness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trey
    i have a different possible conclusion in mind than pedro's (though his was certainly well justified). but i'd like to know more about your background, i.e. family relationships, age, work/education history and how you've responded to work and formal education environments. if you don't want to add any more information i'll understand.


    trey
    Actually, for the sake of getting an accurate portrayal of my type, I'll try.

    Family Relationships -
    * Mother, Father: Speak to them on a daily basis usually. Ranging from 5-30 minutes of communication maximum. I've gone days, though, and they live in the same house as I do.
    * Sisters, Brother: Speak to them when they contact me. We've gone some months without contact before, though, simply because I don't like contacting others first. I admit there's a fear of rejection underneath there somewhere that I keep myself too preoccupied to deal with.

    Extended Information -
    * I'm 18.
    * I tutor math on a college campus currently.
    * My major right now is Chemical Engineering.
    However, I might change that major to something computer related in the future. I'm not sure, and I'll probably base the outcome of my major on something as simple as how much I can stand the professor who teaches the subject. I hate to learn in a setting where I have developed disrespect for the professor, because I lose all interest in the course work after that point. Unfortunately, I don't have respect for many people at all. Hopefully, I can get a job as a computer lab assistant on campus.

    Work History -
    The only jobs I've had were stocking related before the tutoring. Both physical labor related work, because they required the least human interaction. I chose to work in the back doing my job of putting things on the shelves. I worked for Budweiser for a while doing this, and also a grocery store. I'd much prefer to be doing computer lab work vs the human interaction. I do enjoy mathematics, but I get very preturbed by the personal level and specific type of intimacy which is required between teacher & subject when teaching. I like interacting with people and computers, however. I have liked showing people how to do computer work all the time.

    High School - I dropped out at 9th. Said I'd get my GED later in life and attend college. I did, however, I have no idea what I'm doing in college aside from trying to enjoy myself. I hate having to take these required courses for English etc, etc... I'd prefer strictly Maths, Sciences, and Arts...

    College, now - Sometimes I can't see the point in me even being there. Actually, sometimes life itself seems absolutely pointless, and I spend days away from campus to just stay alone in my room and think, sleep, or communicate online.

    Extra -
    I enjoy computers. I build them occassionally. I dabbled in programming a bit, but never let myself get too much into it. I did use linux for a while, but found it to be pointless after a while also, because most of my media applications didn't have functionality in linux which I had learned to use (for 3d modeling, etc)... I enjoy drawing. I design webpages. I am in love with the visual arts. I'd dare say that I am an artist. I love to design visual works.


    That's about it.

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    I think you could be entp.

    Dropping out was definitely taking a risk, doing things your own way. This is classic nonconformist entp. I have trouble picturing and intj doing that.

    There's varying degrees of extroversion, too. Not all extroverts are the life of the party.
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    Well, at least I know one thing: you're definitely not an INTp (or INFp.)

    I'll have to agree with the INTj classification, because you sound alot like my INTj cousin (and also a little like my INFj friend...)


    Your INTp friend,

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    wow, left school in 9th grade? i don't want to pry or anything, but i'm damn curious what caused that and, assuming it wasn't done out of necessity, how your parents let it happen..

    anyways, my first hunch was ENFp, and your last post has revised that to ENTp or INTj with an upbringing devoid of closeness to extraverted feeling types. i can't really differentiate further than that without writing your autobiography though.

    my best wishes to you in understanding yourself and others. it is a foundation for the trust you need to develop your relationships as well as an environment conducive to your happiness, and hopefully socionics can prove to be a useful tool to that end.


    trey

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    Interesting responses. Thanks for all your input.
    I really still can't decide on this one. I doubt my inner most desires are like my outer shell.

    I think it's safe to say my outside shell would look like that of an INTJ. When someone gets to really know me they may notice I'm more of an ENFP, though (at least in private . I'd never express these tendencies to anyone unless I felt 85%+ comfortable around them.

    Makes sense I guess, it's nearly an entire shadow of who I am outwardly. Sometimes that is the best way to play it safe.

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    Nice to see you on the forums Kreatuv...
    You remind me alot of myself, except I ended up choosing Linux over Photoshop. I don't talk to my family much at all, but always feel obligated when the call me for family events. They used to call my room 'the appt' because I would always be in there

    I like to do websites too, I do them where I work, like
    (plug)
    http://it-rocket.net
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    (check out 'featured hosting clients')

    I'm an INTJ(MBTI INTP).

    Good luck on finding your type, these guys offer lots of good opinions and different perspectives

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreatuv
    I'm confused about my type. I have been assured that I am INxx. However, there is a lot of confusion as to those last two letters and what they could be. I was once told that maybe I just haven't "decided yet" on T/F or P/J. I think this is utter crap, and that people have to have a preference. Most people online who I chat with claim I'm INTJ. I'd like some outside opinions on this. If any of you are familiar with written identification of types then please feel free to have a go at me.
    I thought I might as well offer my five cents: You are most likely an INTJ. You do not sound like a feeling type, much more likely judging type. I cannot say for sure about intuition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreatuv
    I'm not afraid of emotions, as much of the T descriptions might imply someone who scores as T would be, but I also don't prefer to indulge in hugging/intimate contact with anyone except for perhaps my girlfriend. I also have a young niece who is two that I hug. I made it a point to attempt to tell her that I love her, however that has not gone over well at all, and I find I just prefer to show those things by my decisions and judgement rather than say them. I am not very good at being understanding of the emotions of others. The only time I was was when I was in a highly emotionally manipulative relationship with an ENFP. That was hell... on ice.
    This would seem to indicate a rational (J) logical type. INTPs and ENFPs usually get on quite well. Perceiving(irrational) and feeling(ethical) types often appear emotionally manipulative to judging(rational) thinking(logical) types.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreatuv
    I know for a fact that I'm Introverted.
    I would say that if you know you are an introvert, then you are. Extroverts are not all outgoing and socially skilled, but there is no need to complicate this. I have always known I am an introvert on any model without a shadow of a doubt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreatuv
    I think it's safe to say my outside shell would look like that of an INTJ. When someone gets to really know me they may notice I'm more of an ENFP, though (at least in private . I'd never express these tendencies to anyone unless I felt 85%+ comfortable around them.

    Makes sense I guess, it's nearly an entire shadow of who I am outwardly. Sometimes that is the best way to play it safe
    This is a most fascinating INTJ trait. I first noticed this when I was fourteen and went to my INTJ friend's house to do a school project with him and another guy. Usually at school he was very controlled and emotionally cold, but then he was all of a sudden relaxed and joking like a totally different person. The controversial theoretical explanation could be, that according to Filatova's model, INTJs may at different times - some far more than others - display a kind of ENFP subtype: The second function Ne and the third function Fi amplified/more strongly expressed.

    How the subtype in this or that psychotype is shown? Differently. It happens, that the person uses a subtype as image, "carries" it as the most convenient " psychological clothes ", thus in critical situations the clothes easily "fly", and the basic type is obviously shown. It happens and on the contrary - the subtype unexpectedly arises during the intense moments of a life, helping them to go through. It was necessary to the author to observe and variants when the person passes from one condition in another in pedelah amplified functions depending on the person of the interlocutor. For example, Stirlitz's (ESTJ) touch (sensing Si) subtype can behave warmly and sincerely, is similar SEI - Dumas (ISFP), and during other, short periods of time, can becomes constrained, closed, persistent, very much reminding on character SLI - Gaben (ISTP).
    http://oldforumlinkviewtopic.php?t=1...er=asc&start=0
    Scroll to the last post. It is a messy machine translation, and I am the only one pushing this theory, but it would seem to explain some peculiar regularities in the ways the socionics types may appear.

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    I think like most of us in here, that you belong to alfa and probably are Alfa Intuitive. So either INTJ or ENTP. My guess is that ENTP. Logical Subtype. So why don't you chek out the Alfa Quadra in our forum and read closely ENTP descriptions.

    And about your weak will power. First of all, that means you are Alfa NT. Probably ENTP, cause you show to others that you can't force your self to do things you doubt. INTJ has , what gives us force to go through as Place Of Least Resistance. So INTJ fears that it is too undecisive and so tries to look forecefull. And that's also a one of the signs of rationality, i make such hypothise. But ENTP has as it is its role function and is there this function is little bit stronger so person more courgeously might show it's problems. At least my thoghts are like that. So If the is your Role function, then is your Programm and people with as programm hav a lot of interests and they want to make progress on each field. But they doubt that what's the best choice to make. They see them selfs as masters, but in the future not in here and now, so it's hard to make concrete judging what's the most potential and oprtunities giving choise.

    Anf to get rid of this doubt, go and find your self a dual. It activates your and in SUPERID block-the block of helpness and you'll become into better shape both as in mentally and as in bodily. That for sure, cause I'm in a Youth Group of Therapy and it's run by ISFP and the results are great.

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