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    Some types can be clearly excluded IMO, like the ISFp, INTj, ISTj, INFp, ESTj.

    But there are probably some types who are notorious of being (called) arrogant.

    Which ones stand out the most, according to you?


    (At my new job there is a SEE who is extremely haughty that it makes me feel ashamed when I think about that she is supposed to be my best match).

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    Well, low IQ people call you "arrogant" when your ability shines. That's life
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    @Jarno: I do think any type is capable of arrogance. No type should be excluded from that.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Well, low IQ people call you "arrogant" when your ability shines. That's life
    I don't know anything about your IQ level, but this post is an example of what I'd consider arrogance.

    It implies 3 arrogant things:
    -Your ability "shines" higher than others around you
    -The only reason these others accuse you of arrogance, is because their IQ is low (not because there is anything wrong with you)
    -You are able to judge other's IQ levels (that alone is arrogant)
    -"That's life" implying you are not able to adapt your own behavior to others (as you are too brilliant to change it or act as a "commoner" with a lower IQ level)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jewels View Post
    I don't know anything about your IQ level, but this post is an example of what I'd consider arrogance.

    It implies 3 arrogant things:
    -Your ability "shines" higher than others around you
    -The only reason these others accuse you of arrogance, is because their IQ is low (not because there is anything wrong with you)
    -You are able to judge other's IQ levels (that alone is arrogant)
    -"That's life" implying you are not able to adapt your own behavior to others (as you are too brilliant to change it or act as a "commoner" with a lower IQ level)
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    I think the least arrogant type is LIE.
    LIE-Ni, i think, but maybe ILI

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Well, low IQ people call you "arrogant" when your ability shines. That's life
    IME, it's not necessary to have "shining abilities". Slightly above average T-focused intelligence is enough for many idiots - especially female ones - to think "arrogance".

    This phenomenon is most visible in countries and cultures where everyone is supposed to be "equal" in a socialist sense, I think.
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    Arrogance probably has more to do with trying to exert one's ego functions. Children or teens who may not have received much praise by their parents for their ego functions may be discovering their strengths and seeking praise in their ego functions from others in the fashion of archaic narcissism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Arrogance probably has more to do with trying to exert one's ego functions. Children or teens who may not have received much praise by their parents for their ego functions may be discovering their strengths and seeking praise in their ego functions from others in the fashion of archaic narcissism.
    Pride.

    Do more good, expect more praise.

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    Which is the most arrogant type?

    Given that arrogance is simply unwarranted pride, the 16 types can help us determine if an individual is justified in the pride exhibited.

    I would suggest that arrogance has more in common with winning, or defeating an opponent (winning an argument) rather than being an attempt at accurate self-reflection. Therefore it follows that the consistently least arrogant are those types disposed to accurate self-reflection, while the consistently most arrogant are those disposed to defeating the enemy.
    LII
    that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.

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    Arrogant people I know:

    LSE-Te (2 of them)
    LIE-Te
    SLE-Se (2 of them)
    LII
    EIE
    LSI (several)
    ILI (3. I know one is a Te subtype, don't know about the others)
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    Rick -the Model- Martel was very arrogant, BTW

    Rick Martel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    lol he was, even his perfume was arrogance
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    GulwStrrrng. Most arrogant type in the entire socionneagram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolanzon View Post
    GulwStrrrng. Most arrogant type in the entire socionneagram.
    Gul you really don't seem arrogant to me. Self-centered, sure, but arrogant? No.

    Gillywstrrrng is vastly more conceited
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Some types can be clearly excluded IMO, like the ISFp, INTj, ISTj, INFp, ESTj.
    Whaaa? You've never met an arrogant LSI or LSE?

    Anyway, I strongly disagree with this kind of premise. Arrogance is NOT under the jurisdiction of socionics. Arrogance can be displayed via the prism of socionics types, but no type is inherently "arrogant". I strongly, strongly disagree that a type can be "excluded", or included. (Even further, there are many different kinds of and manifestations of/into arrogance.)




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryu View Post
    Whaaa? You've never met an arrogant LSI or LSE?

    Anyway, I strongly disagree with this kind of premise. Arrogance is NOT under the jurisdiction of socionics. Arrogance can be displayed via the prism of socionics types, but no type is inherently "arrogant". I strongly, strongly disagree that a type can be "excluded", or included. (Even further, there are many different kinds of and manifestations of/into arrogance.)



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    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    arrogant people I know:

    LIE
    LSE
    LIE
    LSE
    LII
    LII
    EIE

    edit to add:

    oh and two LSIs
    Last edited by redbaron; 08-18-2009 at 12:30 AM. Reason: adding
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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    Hey, UDP, your avatar is very loving.
    I didn't know Ryu was UDP!
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    I would think that any type is capable of arrogance, but type would influence what exactly it is that a person is arrogant about. An LII might be arrogant about his amazing and unparalleled powers of logic, for example, while an ESTj might be arrogant about his snowboarding ability, or an ENFp his ability to understand people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    I would think that any type is capable of arrogance, but type would influence what exactly it is that a person is arrogant about. An LII might be arrogant about his amazing and unparalleled powers of logic, for example, while an ESTj might be arrogant about his snowboarding ability, or an ENFp his ability to understand people.
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    Not type related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Not type related.
    That one sounds arrogant to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by octopuslove View Post
    To me, SEIs seem the least arrogant, but they could just hide it well. LSIs say things that on the surface seem really arrogant, but it's usually in jest. The most arrogant person I know is an ILI. He constantly laughs at other people's stupidity behind their backs.

    I'm pretty arrogant (IEI). I won't say, "I'm so great!" but I'll refuse to admit I'm wrong.
    totally agree with this. I almost never admit I'm wrong either (well, because I'm almost never wrong, hehe).

    and @ slater, I thought we established in that other thread that betas ARE interested in self-improvement and personal growth? (or maybe you were joking)
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    and @ slater, I thought we established in that other thread that betas ARE interested in self-improvement and personal growth? (or maybe you were joking)
    Then, FMPOV, betas probably believe THEY can improve but others CAN'T

    BTW: Redbaron calls me 1981 if she agrees with me and Slater if she doesn't
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Then, FMPOV, betas probably believe THEY can improve but others CAN'T

    BTW: Redbaron calls me 1981 if she agrees with me and Slater if she doesn't
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    BTW: Redbaron calls me 1981 if she agrees with me and Slater if she doesn't
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