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    Warning: This is by no means official. These could be completely wrong.

    Now that Ive got that out of the way, Id like to share with you my guesses as to some types of celebrities which are popular nowadays, or that I like personally. Four different socionics types are being respresented today, by four differen celebs. Here they are:

    ESFJ:





    ENTJ:



    ENFJ:





    ISFJ:





    So what do you think? You agree or disagree?

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    The only one I can object to is Tom Cruise. I consider him an . Overall, I can easily see where you're coming from with each of your diagnoses. They all seem reasonable to me.

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    Tom Cruise and Eva Longoria are the ones I was more or less guessing on. Eva Longoria seems like an ENTJ to me but I havent studied her well enough, and Tom Cruise seems like ESFJ but its harder to say just from VI.

    The other two Im pretty sure of, though.

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    I think Warner is an INTp. I've given my reasoning on that in other threads. Look how his face shape is similar to Sarah.
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    Tom Cruise reminds me of Bono, which leads me more towards ENFp.
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    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    lmfao

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    Heres some other ones:

    INFJ



    ISFJ




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    Aw fuck, TIME OUT:



    But, for a certainty, back then,
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    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    Am I the only one that sees this? The triangular face? The brow? The bridge of the nose? The dominant lower lip? The almond-shaped eyes?

    No wonder I like his music.
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    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    Am I the only one that sees this? The triangular face? The brow? The bridge of the nose? The dominant lower lip? The almond-shaped eyes?

    No wonder I like his music.
    I agree.

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    The nose too, to an extent. My nostrils don't quite arch to the same extent, but the general shape is the same.

    So, is Manson an ENxx too?
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    I despise Marilyn Manson's music ... gives me the creeps and he acts like a demon possesed homosexual.

    Other than that, I hear he is a pretty good guy on his off-time performing.

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    Anyone have anything worth hearing to say?
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    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    God, I hate Manson music. It's all the same.

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    Does anyone have anything to say other than opinions on his music?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    More pics of Manson:




    Here's a great collection of him as a boy:
    http://www.marilynmanson.ru/archive/photos/youth.htm

    I've never heard his music, but I strongly suspect I wouldn't like it

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    I loathe his music.
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    Judging by things (even though I've never heard his music), he is someone who goes out of his way to make the greatest possible negative effect and break aesthetic rules (he emphasizes his asymmetric face, makes one eye different from the other, wears all sorts of scary pointy stuff, makes his face an unnatural hue, etc.). It's like he's trying to appear as unnatural (removed from nature) as possible. I want to say he's EIE, but I'm not sure yet.

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    I think there's a whole line of flamboyant EIE singers and musicians:

    Marilyn Manson
    Bono
    David Bowie
    Steven Tyler
    Mick Jagger (probably)
    Trent Reznor (maybe)

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    Gilligan Manson's face is shaped sorta like yours but not like mine or those of others INTPs. INTPs have too round a face to resemble his.

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    Maybe he's ENTp, then.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Could be, though he could also be ENFJ like most ENTPs tend to be.

    J/K. Im not sure but Ill keep it in mind, ill have to compare more of his pictures with ENFJs and ENTPs to get a better idea.

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    Compare it to mine
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    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Feels good doesnt it? :wink: If only that meant you can get Dita von Deese like he could.

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    Why is Tom Cruise typed as an ESFJ when he was types as an ISTP in typelogi?. I thought he was ENFP because of his strange behaviour and beliefs, but who knows. I'm 100% sure he is not ESFJ. What is with the overtyping of celebs as ESFJ? I don't think Jennifer Aniston or George Clooney are ESFJ. George Clooney strikes me as ENFJ and Jennifer Aniston as an ESFP.

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    As far as I'm aware, the correlation between face shape and type is minimal. The only trait I've found that has a slight correlation is that intuiters more often have a V-shaped face, and sensors more often have a squarer face. But even here there are so many exceptions that it's nearly worthless as a typing criteria. All other visual criteria that I assumed at one point to be solid have been the same way. In addition, I have found that even the people who claim to swear by some version of V.I. regular break their own rules on the basis of more important "personal experience."

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    I'm seeing Manson as either INFj or ISFp. I think ISFp may work better, though.
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    If your getting complete opposites when it comes to typing celebs, you know that it is a waste of time.
    Agreed, but at this forum one never knows whether people are referring to MBTI types or socionic types. It's okay to be one type in one system and another in the other. After all, the definitions are different, and studies have shown that socionists and MBTI divide up types differently.

    Why is Tom Cruise typed as an ESFJ when he was types as an ISTP in typelogi?.
    If someone in socionics claimed Cruise was an SLI, that would be ridiculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick
    If your getting complete opposites when it comes to typing celebs, you know that it is a waste of time.
    Agreed, but at this forum one never knows whether people are referring to MBTI types or socionic types. It's okay to be one type in one system and another in the other. After all, the definitions are different, and studies have shown that socionists and MBTI divide up types differently.[/quote]

    That is true, but there should be slight differences between the types not complete 360s. If socionics types someone as an ESFP then that could person might be an ENFP or ISFP in MBTI. If that person is typed as an ISTJ, then obviously someone is terrible at typing. I wonder how many celebs have taken the test and announced their personality type.

    Why is Tom Cruise typed as an ESFJ when he was types as an ISTP in typelogi?.
    If someone in socionics claimed Cruise was an SLI, that would be ridiculous [/quote]

    Well there is an overabundance of ESFJs, and I don't think celebs are really ESFjs at all. I can't really picture an over abundance of ESFJ actors, now ENFJ is possible. Well, Tom Cruise is described as being private and he always seems to be expressing his emotions. He looks like a definite perceiver to me. Though I'm not sure whether he is an intuitive or a sensor.

    For Tom Cruise, I would say:

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    That is true, but there should be slight differences between the types not complete 360s. If socionics types someone as an ESFP then that could person might be an ENFP or ISFP in MBTI. If that person is typed as an ISTJ, then obviously someone is terrible at typing.
    Another point. Some types are more similar to others only on paper, when you see that two types share three letters in common, while another two types share only one letter. In reality there's probably no objective way of saying one type is more or less similar to another. For example, one ILI might remind people of an LIE. Another ILI might remind people of an IEI. Another ILI might seem similar to a SEE.

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    Well there is an overabundance of ESFJs, and I don't think celebs are really ESFjs at all. I can't really picture an over abundance of ESFJ actors, now ENFJ is possible.
    Yeah, if someone thinks that, I think they are mistaking social roles for type. If this were really true, we'd all be looking at actors and saying, "why, he looks and asks just like this one!" and "I can't figure it out... all the actors seem so identical" and "why aren't there any actors out there who are like these other vast segments of the population?" Obviously this is not the case. Actors come in all shapes and sizes, just like the population at large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick
    Well there is an overabundance of ESFJs, and I don't think celebs are really ESFjs at all. I can't really picture an over abundance of ESFJ actors, now ENFJ is possible.
    Yeah, if someone thinks that, I think they are mistaking social roles for type. If this were really true, we'd all be looking at actors and saying, "why, he looks and asks just like this one!" and "I can't figure it out... all the actors seem so identical" and "why aren't there any actors out there who are like these other vast segments of the population?" Obviously this is not the case. Actors come in all shapes and sizes, just like the population at large.
    That is true, though you have to admit that there is an over abundance of actors being ESFJ. There are several ESFJ actors out there, but they are not the majority. I would say though that I believe perceivers tend to be more likely to be actors. Though, that might be a false generalization.
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    That is true, though you have to admit that there is an over abundance of actors being ESFJ.
    I can't say much about this, because I haven't typed enough actors. However, the overabundance can't be too great, because large concentrations of people of one type create a vacuum for complementary types, and when there are too many people of a certain type, other people of that type lose interest in that territory because competition for their 'niche' is too severe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick
    That is true, though you have to admit that there is an over abundance of actors being ESFJ.
    I can't say much about this, because I haven't typed enough actors. However, the overabundance can't be too great, because large concentrations of people of one type create a vacuum for complementary types, and when there are too many people of a certain type, other people of that type lose interest in that territory because competition for their 'niche' is too severe.
    I agree with what your saying and I'm aware that there would never be too much of one type. Though, I was just stating previously that socionics and others have the tendency to type actors as ESFJ. I think that is a false impression because actors tend to fake as a way to to not appear as cold. Just speculation of course, might be wrong. I can't picture too many actors being judgers, since becoming an actor/actress is a very risky thing to do.
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    Though, I was just stating previously that socionics and others have the tendency to type actors as ESFJ.
    One or two serious socionists maybe, but the rest no.
    I think that is a false impression because actors tend to fake as a way to to not appear as cold. Just speculation of course, might be wrong.
    There are very many actors who don't emphasize at all. For example, Harrison Ford, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Clint Eastwood, even Jackie Chan (if anything ). I would even say that American movies on the whole are much more about than about , especially compared to French movies or Russian movies (which are soaking with ).
    I can't picture too many actors being judgers, since becoming an actor/actress is a very risky thing to do
    Riskier than politics or big business? Again, I don't see that irrational types noticeably outnumber rationals in movies.

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    This might raise some eyebrows:
    http://www.socionics.us/celebrities/benchmark.shtml
    160 famous people who have been typed by many different socionists.

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    Alexander the Great an SLE?

    HOW DO YOU KNOW?!?

    The current information on Alexander the Great that we have today is *highley* suspect to begin with. Most historians don't agree on some of the more basic information about him. It has gotten to the point of turning him into more of a "symbol" as opposed to an actual person. Trying to type him would be like trying to type the Batman character from different Batman movies played by different actors. Actually, it's probably worse. I think it is rather childish to even claim you know Alexander the Great's type at this point. Unless you are pulling names out of a hat. Which maybe what they are doing.

    There are other ones I disagree with of course (Shakespeare was by no means an Extravert), but that ones just popped out it me as rather ridiculus and cause for not taking them seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Alexander the Great an SLE?

    HOW DO YOU KNOW?!?

    The current information on Alexander the Great that we have today is *highley* suspect to begin with. Most historians don't agree on some of the more basic information about him. It has gotten to the point of turning him into more of a "symbol" as opposed to an actual person. Trying to type him would be like trying to type the Batman character from different Batman movies played by different actors. Actually, it's probably worse. I think it is rather childish to even claim you know Alexander the Great's type at this point. Unless you are pulling names out of a hat. Which maybe what they are doing.

    There are other ones I disagree with of course (Shakespeare was by no means an Extravert), but that ones just popped out it me as rather ridiculus and cause for not taking them seriously.
    This project took into consideration only types that socionists felt they were sure of and had investigated personally. I'm just passing this information along. Read the heading carefully. You'll see that less than half felt they could type Shakespeare, while the rest declined. Only one fourth knew enough about Alexander the Great to type him. No one was pulling names out of a hat.

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    I know you can discuss forever the types of historical figures, but these three seem especially absurd to me:

    - Caesar: SEE
    - Nero: EIE
    - Richard Nixon: ESI

    Taking into board what Rick said, I noticed that only very few people thought of typing these three. They should have kept their mouth shut in my opinion.

    I daresay I know a lot about the lives of those three in particular, and there is no way Caesar was SEE. SLE is possible, but I think rather LIE.

    Nero as EIE? He was about the worst politician and strategist - in the sense of reading people's moods and predicting the consequences of his actions - ever to rule Rome. This was a guy who, after the fire of Rome, turned an area one third the size of Central Park right in the center of Rome into a luxury garden and palace - the Domus Aurea, Golden House - for his own aesthetic pleasure - "now I can finally live like a human being", he said - according to his own very specific designs. SEI I'd say.

    Nixon as ESI? A guy who gambled all of his savings, just after WWII, in a first-time run for Congress against a veteran politician who usually ran unopposed - the only reason why a newcomer like Nixon was even allowed to run? Also, his weak is almost painful to watch. LIE.

    EDIT: the historical knowledge regarding Caesar and Nero is far more complete than with Alexander, where Rocky has a point. There are contemporary or near-contemporary accounts, and they are quite consistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick
    Only one fourth knew enough about Alexander the Great to type him. No one was pulling names out of a hat.
    Only one fourth thought they knew enough about AtG to type him, and it seems to me that some of them were pulling names out of -- somewhere.

    I don't doubt their knowledge of socionics, but of history.

    By the way, in the particular case of Alexander I think they may be right, but I agree with Rocky.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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