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    Hello everyone,

    If you have patience (and you will need it), here are some pictures of people in my life. I don't expect you to VI the whole alphabet, however I would appreciate your insights on at least some of the people you think you know the type from the photos. Thanks .

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    My serious typings:

    A ILE Ti
    A's wife SEE Se
    B ILE Ti
    C ILE Ti
    D ILI Ni
    E ILE Ne
    F ILI Ni
    G LSE Si
    H LSI Si
    I EIE Ni
    J SLE Se
    K LSE Te
    L ILE Ti
    M SLI Matt Damon/Sam Neill subtype
    N IEE Fi
    O LSE Si
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    Btw you can send me your opinions via PM if you don't feel comfortable writing it here .
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    M SLI Matt Damon/Sam Neill subtype
    Neither Damon nor Neill are SLIs. Damon is LSE, Neil is ESI. Person M looks like a LSI, and reminds me of forum member Tom a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Neither Damon nor Neill are SLIs. Damon is LSE, Neil is ESI. Person M looks like a LSI, and reminds me of forum member Tom a little.
    Only one of those is an SLI. Damon is Te-ESTj. Neill is Te-ISTp 5w6. Tom is Si-ESTj.

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    Don't you realize I don't think Damon and Neill are SLIs, but I just joked about the physical (non-Socionics) resemblance between ssmall's friend and them?
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    less talking more typing!

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    Thanks, (shameless bump).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Don't you realize I don't think Damon and Neill are SLIs, but I just joked about the physical (non-Socionics) resemblance between ssmall's friend and them?
    I realize you joked about their physical resemblance and I stated my opinion of their types regardless of whether you thought they were SLI or not, which I didn't assume either way.
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    time for some necromancy
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    meh I'm not that great at typing just via photos, but I'll give it a shot

    A- SEE, wife ILI
    B- ILE
    C- SLI
    D- ILI
    E- EIE
    F- LIE
    G- SEI
    H- ST
    I- SEI
    J- ESE
    K- IEE
    L- ESE
    M- EII
    N- EII
    O- SLI
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    Most of em are Gamma...


    * Person O = ILI (compare with Beach Boys' Brian Wilson, another ILI.)
    * Person J = Gamma irrational

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    Very interesting guesses Marie . Some changes/clarifications I would perhaps make:


    person A- SEE, wife SLI
    person D- IEI-Ni
    Person F- LIE-Ni, if not; ILI-Te.
    person G- Delta ST
    person H- LSI
    person J- SLE-Se, his wife; IEI
    person N- Maybe LSE instead of EII.

    This was fun

    EDIT:

    I've been thinking, and person J could be ESI-Se. Person F is probably ILI-Te or SLI-Te, rather than LIE.
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    Since I got nothing better to do...

    I guess Ill list what my opinion of their types are or at least what they could be:

    Person A is my brother and he is SxE (but more likely SLE), his wife is either SEI or IEI.

    Person B is more likely LII/ILI or SLI, can't peg on any of them.

    Person C SXI

    Person D is ILI.

    Person E is more likely LII/ILI, can't peg on any of them.

    Person F is LSE or LIE.

    Person G is more likely ESE with a small chance of being LSE.

    Person H could very well be ILE, second best fit would be IEE.

    Person I is most likely EIE, could also be LIE.

    Person J is most likely SEE.

    Person K is a mistery to me as far as types go.

    Person L is EIE .

    Person M is most likely Alpha irrational.

    Person N is Delta NF, most likely EII.

    Person O is most likely LII.

    For me it seems to be a problem to distinguish LII from ILI's no matter how different they are supposed to be. Whichever type person #B and #E are they are closer to my quadra/type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Ssmall, I have some things to tell you.

    The hardest by far, because I like you and because I'm tired to fight for retyping people is: I think you're an IEI, not an IEE. Please consider IEI (Ni subtype, I'd dare to say) until I look for your older posts (if I won't forget), because I'll be back .
    He's Ne-ILE

    The VI was interesting. It seems that I was not so far away with all. I don't know if to trust your typings on those people, your skills are promising, but as long as it is the idea your self type is wrong I can't tell more than that. But you definitely were sincere about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post

    Edit: slater, I trust your VI skills, can you tell me what's her type?
    Ni-EIE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Ssmall, I have some things to tell you.

    The hardest by far, because I like you and because I'm tired to fight for retyping people is: I think you're an IEI, not an IEE. Please consider IEI (Ni subtype, I'd dare to say) until I look for your older posts (if I won't forget), because I'll be back .
    IEI, SEI, ILE, SEE, IEE

    Now I have a quite wide type list to choose from. I have no problems with typing of IEE. Now lets say I would be IEI-Ni. If we go from VI, I don't see the gaze of Ni types in me. Most IEI's I know are quite eccentric people too, but lets say that is irrelevant to the type. Where do you see Ni in my posts? Or is it just appearance? Wouldn't Ni be more introverted than the Fe counterpart, although I do consider myself a bit introverted extrovert I by no means consider myself introverted person. If I would be IEI, wouldn't you think Fe subtype be more fitting in this case?

    As for ILE, I don't see why I should be one. I find no similarity between me and other people with this type, nor I find descriptions of this type fitting for me. So I don't know where that type comes from .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ssmall View Post
    IEI, SEI, ILE, SEE, IEE
    Not bad

    Now I have a quite wide type list to choose from. I have no problems with typing of IEE. Now lets say I would be IEI-Ni. If we go from VI, I don't see the gaze of Ni types in me. Most IEI's I know are quite eccentric people too, but lets say that is irrelevant to the type. Where do you see Ni in my posts? Or is it just appearance? Wouldn't Ni be more introverted than the Fe counterpart, although I do consider myself a bit introverted extrovert I by no means consider myself introverted person. If I would be IEI, wouldn't you think Fe subtype be more fitting in this case?
    You are static, judicious and asker --> ILE Ne

    As for ILE, I don't see why I should be one. I find no similarity between me and other people with this type, nor I find descriptions of this type fitting for me. So I don't know where that type comes from .
    ILE-Ti and ILE-Ne are really different from each other and most of the ILEs around here are Ti. Anyway, you know yourself better than I do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    You are static, judicious and asker --> ILE Ne
    Could be, the asker/declarer dichotomy always seemed like not fitting me. I saw myself more of an asker than declarer. Nevertheless, I do not think it is enough to type me ILE though.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    ILE-Ti and ILE-Ne are really different from each other and most of the ILEs around here are Ti. Anyway, you know yourself better than I do!

    Yes, they are different. Yet I do not think they would be THAT different. This does not answer the question why I do not relate to type descriptions. I do realize they are not good for typing, but I relate to other type descriptions way better than to ILE one's which is something to note. Lets take

    Intuitive logical extrovert - Wikisocion

    Introverted logic, Introverted ethics, Extroverted ethics parts do not fit at all.

    In general I have a hard time relating to Introverted Logic, Extroverted logic or Extroverted Sensing descriptions.

    Also I do not think that it is common for ILE to be the person to whom others go for relationship or similar advices or that it would be my natural inclination to share such advices or that I would feel enjoyment while doing so. This is of course not impossible, but not THAT likely either.

    I also do not see how an ISFp would cover all my weak spots. But knowing I had no relationship with one this is purely hypothetical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    I will have to check your older and richer posts to see about it. Most of my reasons are based on appearance, lifestyle and what I vaguely remember of your posts.
    Heh, ok, but you might stumble upon problems when doing so, I rarely post threads from which you could derive a lot of info. However if you have questions for me you can ask them here or via PM, Ill try to answer them as thoroughly as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Recently you posted about how you see relationships. This free bird is not consistent with IEE, I think all IEEs could not relate to this, while for IEIs it's natural. Relationship is perceived as an obligation for most IEIs afaik, but I don't see things so absolute myself, you mights ask for confirmations from other users, I suppose - but take care to the mistypes.

    Two posts where the contrast attitude between you and IEE type is obvious, imo:
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...tml#post594501
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...tml#post593620
    IEE works on interdependence, they find it indispensable.
    Regardless of what I said, I might also note that I don't remember the last time I was not in a relationship for more than 3 months. And it was always serious relationships. The shortest I had was probably 6 months. How I perceive things and how they really are does not always match up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Do you have sadistic tendencies in intimacy, not in the full sense, but some impulses, like biting them, for example their calf, or holding them tight by the hair during sexual intercourse? If you confirm me this, I'll have almost no doubts that you are an IEI, but no doubts that you are not an IEE.
    No I can't confirm this. I don't see myself as having sadistic tendencies in intimacy (and not because of the word sadistic, just that I dont see myself as having those). The closest I could get to sadistic tendencies would be leaning someone against the wall in a lift or somesuch but that is as much as it would go and would be more playfull than anything. I have dated some "Victim's" and I found it tiering due to what was expected of me (to take control or whatever is on their mind). I could fake it but it was not rewarding and felt silly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    While I consider subtypes learned behavior, so not reliable or separated, I say that you are the Ni one because you seem dispassionate in pictures, public places, a more "elegant" attitude towards strangers, compared to Fe ones who I see as being more passioned, dramatic and sometimes quick to critique. The users I can remember right now are strrrng - Ni and BulletsAndDoves - Fe.

    Ph, maybe you're talking about the Fe-IEIs when you talk about those eccentricities.

    Subtypes are a rather complicated issue, at least for some types, this is why I prefer to not talk about it. It's about the naming convention: using this case, IEI, one might say that the more eccentric one is Fe because of the dramatic behavior, on the other hand he's the more Irrational, because this can be more rebel, "the devil", "suicidal" or whatever. This applies to SEI, too.

    I just read the Wikisocion descriptions, indeed, checking the Wikisocion descriptions, I'm definitely talking about The Diplomat (Fe there), not The Idealist, so sorry for the confusion.

    Edit: reading carefully, the Wikisocion descriptions don't match exactly my observations. The calmer one looks more down to earth, the other is more dreamy but more dramatic, I think they are mixed - either Gulenko or the others. But the titles at least definitely match to my view: you being the Fe one, the Diplomat.
    Well thanks for your insights. I have no problem with retyping myself as I do not base my interactions on socionics, I think it helped me understand what I want from another person, but thats that. So retyping myself wont make any impact on my life on any level. I think I am skilled enough on my own to know which relationships are bad and which are not. So if you have the patience and will you can go on asking questions or analysing my posts.

    Maybe I will look more into IEI descriptions later on and see if they would resonate with me. I have much more issues with me being ILE than IEI. I might aswell entertain myself with being IEI, at least it would refresh my interest in socionics and could prove an interesting discussion and maybe some source of info for future retypings . I havent really considered any type for a while as I felt no need, so maybe it would be the time to rethink my position on my type. Although as I said before I don't really have problems with my current selftyping.
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    K, I checked some descriptions (in Wikisocion, if you have better ones please share) and here is what I found so far.

    IEI domain - Wikisocion
    Dunno who done this link but it seems useless and I am not even sure to what should I relate. One thing I do not have for sure is introvert stryfe .

    IEI subtypes - Wikisocion
    I'm more like a mix of two of those. Yet, things like dramatism, extravagance, shyness, melancholy are things I do not associate with myself.

    IEI male and female - Wikisocion
    Well don't know. Some parts fit some don't, like with any description I guess. I am also more likely to start conversations than tease other people into them, although I guess I can do that too, but I deffo do not wait until someone will notice me .

    And probably more interesting link would be:
    Intuitive ethical introvert - Wikisocion

    Introverted intuition - Generally everything could fit (although it is a bit situational rather than general trend for me). What deffo does not fit is that I am not mystical and dreamy. Actually people like this can sometimes annoy me.

    Extroverted ethics - "IEIs' speech and voice usually have a certain dramatic affect and depth of feeling", "If things seem too quiet and low-key, they may even generate controversy or conflict to liven things up and get people involved once again in a high-spirited atmosphere"
    Those two sentences stand out as something I do not and would not do. This trend is through all descriptions of IEI, the dramatism, controversity, conflict, all those things I avoid in my life.

    Introverted sensing - Some parts certainly do fit, except the part about "IEIs will often have extremely picky tastes, and will not try new things when a stimulus that has been enjoyed in the past is available."

    Extroverted logic - "They dislike rote routine and do not give much attention to what others may view as the practical aspects of life. They may seem oblivious to objective reality, lost in their "dreams." Again quite the opposite of me, I hate people who are lost in their dreams and are oblivious to objective reality.

    Extroverted sensing - Seems like it could fit.

    Introverted logic - Again all those things about "lost in their dreams and out of touch with reality" is really annoying trait, one I think I do not have. The other parts, neither fits neither doesn't fit. So can't really say yes or no to them.

    Extroverted intuition - I think it does not fit, because I will always point out all possible ways of things to happen sometimes ALONG with most likely outcome, but not the other way around. Or if someone says something definite I will always try to point out other possible outcomes and show that everything is not necessarily like that. Thats probably my biggest issue, the Ni-Ne battle.

    Introverted ethics - Not sure what to make of it. Some parts fit, some don't. Hard to tell right now.


    Have you thought of SEI for me instead? I haven't checked it recently but it is also one of the types which were proposed for me long time ago. Maybe it wouldn't clash that much over Ne-Ni then . Either, will wait what you have to say to it.
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    Extroverted intuition - I think it does not fit, because I will always point out all possible ways of things to happen sometimes ALONG with most likely outcome, but not the other way around. Or if someone says something definite I will always try to point out other possible outcomes and show that everything is not necessarily like that. Thats probably my biggest issue, the Ni-Ne battle.
    This sounds like me.
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    Hey, stop hijacking my thread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I typed all the men ISTP; person F could be ENFP the ladies I am not too sure about.
    ok.....

    Either the case for too much reading and too little practice or this is someones new project.

    @Pinocchio
    I'm sorry but I don't think that description helped me much due to the fact I can see myself acting one way or the other in different circumstances. Sometimes I'm open ended, usually it is when there is quite a lot of possible options and I'm trying to hint into the whole set, not something specific. And on the other hand sometimes I try to hint something specific. Either way I think I am in general open ended person. I do sometimes get annoyed when someone doesn't get something I am trying to point out but I think that is general for everyone. Any other ideas? Sorry if i am not making it easier for you.
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    Well I am back. How's everyone? Don't have as much time now, but glad to see some of the old gang are still here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    NP. Right now I have no other ideas
    Cmooon . Anyway, I was thinking a bit more about some stuff which may or may not be related to what you say. My friend (who I thought was IEI, but if I am IEI she can be IEE??) is always elusive with definite answers. Whatever she said is open to interpretation and she can't be pinned down, if you ask something concrete then she says she didn't have this in mind and she never said it. Which is true but you can see her intentions pretty well. If you don't pin her down then she is fine with supposed interpretations as long as you don't associate the thoughts with what she said directly. As soon as you do she gets hysterical. Thats quite annoying, as usually I prefer to stand by my words even if I am elusive, I by no means am avoidant of responsibility. Maybe I misenterpret what you said, actually this situation I remembered only partially due to what you said, but I think she is way more open ended and even elusive than I would normally be. What are your thoughts on this?
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