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    If that's allowed.

    Do you think it has to do with your subtype?

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    I'm sure there's no law against it.

    Of those I value Ne the most, so that would be 7th function.

    I doubt it has anything to do with subtype. With type maybe.
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    I'd say is my favorite of my unvalued functions... followed by , and (in that order).



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    I would say in this order , , , , I really really really hate
    LIE-Ni, i think, but maybe ILI

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    Cosine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Cosine!

    Huhwhat?



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    > > >

    haha this is not really a surprise to me, looking at it.
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    > > >>>>
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    > > >

    haha this is not really a surprise to me, looking at it.
    Your version is probably the normal version, and all of ours influenced by bad experiences with particular elements.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Cosine!

    Horribly wrong. The red is sin(x) and the blue is -cos(x).
    LIE-Ni, i think, but maybe ILI

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilodon View Post
    Horribly wrong. The red is sin(x) and the blue is -cos(x).
    Bad Y-axis.
    Last edited by Brilliand; 07-31-2009 at 09:40 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by smilodon View Post
    Horribly wrong. The red is sin(x) and the blue is -cos(x).
    But sin(0) = 0, and at x=0, the red line is clearly at y=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by tereg View Post
    But sin(0) = 0, and at x=0, the red line is clearly at y=1
    Looking again, the red is cos(x) and the blue is -sin(x).



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    Looking again, the red is cos(x) and the blue is -sin(x).
    I had a typo. (Rushed the answer)
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    The red line is clearly cos(x), and the blue line is a phase shifted function, so it's either going to be cos(x-pi/2) or sin(x-pi)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tereg View Post
    The red line is clearly cos(x), and the blue line is a phased function, so it's either going to be cos(x-pi/2) or sin(x-pi)
    Or -sin(x) or -cos(x+pi/2)... Well, they're the same thing.
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    You know me, I like to unnecessarily overcomplicate things. But yes, they are indeed equivalent.
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    The red one could also be a Gaussian bell curve
    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    The red one could also be a Gaussian bell curve
    I think the best evidence against that is that the URL of the image is "http://www.analyzemath.com/cosine/cosine-1.gif".



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    what the heck does that chart signify? (I think I've been out of school for too long...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    what the heck does that chart signify? (I think I've been out of school for too long...)
    Cosine function. I have yet to find out what that has to do with this thread...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    I think the best evidence against that is that the URL of the image is "http://www.analyzemath.com/cosine/cosine-1.gif".
    It just refers to the blue curve
    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    It just refers to the blue curve
    This calls for a "what links here"! ...I think I'm using .

    Here's the page the image comes from: Cosine Function

    As this page was most likely made by the creator of that image, and is an informative source not intended to decieve its readers, it can be trusted to tell us what function is being demonstrated in that image.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    I have yet to find out what that has to do with this thread...
    I'll spell it out for you.

    The non-valued function cosine.

    [insert Ricky Ricardo laughter and canned audience laughter]
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    Quote Originally Posted by tereg View Post
    But sin(0) = 0, and at x=0, the red line is clearly at y=1
    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    Looking again, the red is cos(x) and the blue is -sin(x).
    Oh crap, woops, my bad.

    Or -sin(x) or -cos(x+i/2)... Well, they're the same thing.
    Why are we bringing imaginary numbers into this.
    LIE-Ni, i think, but maybe ILI

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    Quote Originally Posted by tereg View Post
    I'll spell it out for you.

    The non-valued function cosine.

    [insert Ricky Ricardo laughter and canned audience laughter]
    Ah, thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by smilodon View Post
    Why are we bringing imaginary numbers into this.
    Typo. Fixed.



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    I guess for me it would be > > > . Not sure what it says about me though. I guess the "right" answer would be > > > , I don't think I've really thought it through to see if a deviation of this means anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by look.to.the.sky View Post
    I guess for me it would be > > > . Not sure what it says about me though. I guess the "right" answer would be > > > , I don't think I've really thought it through to see if a deviation of this means anything.
    It's still a one-function deviation - I speculate that you've had some very good experiences with supervisors.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    It's still a one-function deviation - I speculate that you've had some very good experiences with supervisors.
    My best friend is a NeTi. Might be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    This calls for a "what links here"! ...I think I'm using .

    Here's the page the image comes from: Cosine Function
    I'm just joking It's context dependent what it is. It really could be lot of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    If that's allowed.

    Do you think it has to do with your subtype?
    > > >
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    I highly value other people's PoLRs.

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    & > >

    But I could be wrong here. I'd have to think more about this.
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    I honestly think it has to do with the types using the elements (due to intertypes). I can get along better with an LII using Ti than an SLE using Ti, for instance.

    In general though, Ni > Ti/Fe > Se.

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    As in, I can't really say "which elements" because intertypes are the sums of every function interacting.

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    Probably Ne or Te.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    I still can't see you as an ethical type.
    What, you mean NT or ST makes more sense for me? Seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    If that's allowed.

    Do you think it has to do with your subtype?
    Ne.

    And theoretically, it should be the 8th function for most people.

    I guess it depends on what you mean by "value" though. I think I expect Ti from others to some extent, but not Ne. Si is nice when it's all taken care of for me, but not when I have to worry about it myself. Fe is a nifty tool.
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    Ti, I suppose. Mostly due to the fact that it's useful in education.
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    Well I was making the observation that an Ni-LIE might express Ne more, and a Te-LIE might express Ti more, because of subtypes. I would say I express Ne more, but I don't think there is a correlation to valuing, nor do I know which element I value more. Probably not Fe.

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    input from Si I generally see as important
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