I gots me a video!

[The Exception]

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[07490]

Hey, Warrior-Librarian that video by contrast did not bored me at all. You sound very concise on the video and I think you probably are more observant and more knowledgeable than I am in Socionics. you are sound very structure and connect all elements of socionic without much confusion to me, I wouldn't be the one to contradict your self-typing here, nicely done ;-).

[jewels]

nicely done! liked your video.

[The Exception]

Oops, in my video I said judging/perceiving when I meant to say rational/irrational.

Also, I noticed that my mouth movements were not in sync with my voice when viewing the videos. Anyone know how to fix that?

[Not A Communist Shill]

You're very methodical and considered in your speech...I can see why you have thought about LIE, ILI, and LII as possible types for you. I don't think you are LIE though, and from the video, I don't believe you're a SLI for example either.

I think cracka said once that it was better to put videos on photobucket or something rather than youtube to prevent the video and sound being out of sync...or have I got that the wrong way round? I didn't even notice a problem until you pointed it out though!

[Cyrano]

Great video. I'll bet it's harder to make one than you expect. 8 minutes is a long time. Well done!

[Cone]

Some of my own observations:

- Generally unwavering, stays in one position throughout the entire video
- Limited facial expression
- Love the permanent smile!
- Doesn't feel the need to fill in silence, i.e. you like to think about what you are going to say rather than "thinking out loud"
- Most of what you say comes out seeming well thought out (whether it is or not) and coherent without a lot of interjections (like "um's" and "like's") and without many or any tangents
- Talk about Socionics seems to concentrate on how things fit together logically

So, yeah, I think that fits well with the IJ temperament and leading , specifically LII, if I am remembering correctly what Rick said about them.

[Jonathan]

I would tend to agree...The discussion really talks about how things are supposed to work based on the consequences of the system. In contrast, perhaps a Gamma, while being aware of all that stuff, may not be as inclined to explain how that's all supposed to work, and might instead point out a few things to criticize or apply. Regarding the general manner of speaking, that's not definitive, as both LIIs and ILIs may talk very slowly and calmly like that. But the sense of how it's organized, as if there's a sort of internal "book" and one is turning the page mentally, may speak for Ij temperament and LII.

The caveat though is that a lot of people will seem Ti-focused if they're creating a video about the basics of Socionics. I think a lot of people in daily life may be very different from that but if they decided to lecture about Socionics, that might make them appear LII at that moment.

I'm not saying that this is a reason say that LII is wrong here. It's just something to consider.

[Krig the Viking]

I agree with everyone else. Your discussion of socionics was logical, abstract, and generalized, heavy on theory and light on specific examples (Ti+Ne). Your reasons for studying socionics were: it's interesting, there's more to it than MBTI, and it's more nuanced. In other words, it's a complex system you enjoy learning and understanding for its own sake rather than any practical application (Ti>Te). Like Numbers said, I see no reason to contradict your self-typing.

[Nexus]

lol, you called PoLR 'polar'; sometimes I like to pronounce it pole-'R' :tongue:

you seem very alpha NT; definitely / valuing; I think you are Ne-INTj personally

[ragnar]

I finally got around to doing one. What type do I come across as on the video?

I get INTj and ISTp vibes. Also alpha ones.

[Nexus]

Just from your intro, I would say Alpha NT with a high degree of confidence. Either ILE-Ti or your self-typing. I mentioned the former because you come off exactly like an ILE teacher I had last semester. Though of course, that was based off of my typing of her.

nm, I 2nd aixelsyd - -ILE

[Warlord]

Regarding to your facial expressions: you have the expressive range of Steven Seagal, although a different expression (instead of the pissed off, and even more pissed off) That wasn't meant as offence.

There's some movement regarding to your entire body, you move little bit back and forth, but you don't seem to change the positions of your body parts much at all (like change your posture, move your arms).

TiNe is accurate typing.

[UDP]

I can see LII, mhm.

[The Exception]

nm, I 2nd aixelsyd - -ILE

Actually, that's not far off. It's like the best incorrect answer. LOL.

I just reread the ILE description, and much of it fits. I have from time to time considered ILE as a possibility but then discard it. I guess the main reason why I can't claim to be one is temperament. I'm an IJ and waaay too introverted to be an E.

Function-wise, I identify the most with base and creative rather than the other way around. I particularly identify with dual seeking, although I like SEI's almost as much as ESE's relationship wise. PoLR also makes the most sense, although I definitely have issues with . I did identify with part of the PoLR description.

[Krig the Viking]

"The customer is always right" is the stupidest saying in the history of retail. Not only is it not true, but it is actually counter-productive: employees who must give in to the craziest customer's wildest demands are not happy employees, and unhappy employees are ineffective employees, especially when dealing with people. An employee who is backed up by his boss when a difficult situation arises is going to be happier, more confident, and more willing to help his customers because there's no fear of having to bow and scrape before a crazy one.

Also, the snapping at the overly-demanding computer user -- Super-Ego Limit Break! A guy keeps hammering on an LII's PoLR Se like that, he's got to expect a backlash!

[The Exception]

Also, the snapping at the overly-demanding computer user -- Super-Ego Limit Break! A guy keeps hammering on an LII's PoLR Se like that, he's got to expect a backlash!

Initially, I didn't think of this as being a PoLR hit but I think you're right.

[Creepy-male]

So if you get into an argument with an SLE, can you figure out where the shattered pieces of exploded LII will land with PoLR co-ordinates?

[The Exception]

So if you get into an argument with an SLE, can you figure out where the shattered pieces of exploded LII will land with PoLR co-ordinates?

[Creepy-male]

See if you can triangulate that pun. It's pretty complex!

They say that random tangents are a sine of madness. And maths puns are a cosine too...

[The Exception]

nm, I 2nd aixelsyd - -ILE

I noticed you have me as Ti-ILE on your userlist. Are you basing that primarily off the video or on my posts?

[Nexus]

I noticed you have me as Ti-ILE on your userlist. Are you basing that primarily off the video or on my posts?

your posts actually, though I changed you back to -INTj after some thought

[Nexus]

See if you can triangulate that pun. It's pretty complex!

They say that random tangents are a sine of madness. And maths puns are a cosine too...

as the angle becomes more imaginary, the sine [of madness] increases

[jason_m]

Warrior-Librarian:

I liked your video. I thought before that there was some possibility of LIE - I now don't think that it's possible. Actually, I'm pretty sure that you're LII. (You seem very Alpha to me.)

Jason

[The Exception]

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[The Exception]

I wonder what Maritsa will say. Probably that I should get a side view of me or something.

[The Exception]

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[Nowisthetime]

Fantastic! I love watching these videos. It really contributes to building a picture of what different types look like. You seem LII to me.

I also liked the elephant in the first video.

[The Exception]

Fantastic! I love watching these videos. It really contributes to building a picture of what different types look like. You seem LII to me.

I also liked the elephant in the first video.

What elephant?

[The Exception]

I'm also sort of considering more LII-Ne (and may have confused the other person as ILE).

Loved the customer service vid.

Other person? They're both me. Now don't go confusing me!

[The Exception]

I'm guessing the one hanging on your wall in a picture frame.

Duh! And that in itself is indicative of type. Having something in your surroundings and not even remembering it's there.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Beautiful sky]

Very close to ENTp

[Suz]

LII was my first thought while watching the video. Obvious introvert VI.

I went to college with a lot of LIIs and the way you talk and act is very similar. I also think that you obviously have a large preference for Ti in part based on what you chose to talk about (the dichotomies, etc, and the structure of socionics).

Not ILE by any stretch of the imagination, Maritsa!! I see no Fe-HA in her, nor any Fi-POLR. Instead I see Se-POLR and Si-HA by the way you're sitting, W-L, and the way you carry yourself, the way you're dressed, etc.

EDIT: and looks like a bunch of people here agree with me! Yay! I think my typing skills are getting pretty good!

[Suz]

You mean Se PoLR, right?

And I am less and less confident on ILE, as I said earlier. I may have a tendency to mistype LII-Ne types as ILE-Ti types because I can see some differences in how WL comes off compared to those who I have typed ILE-Ti beyond shadow of a doubt.

And if I were to compared you, WL, to any community member, it would be Carla...who I honestly believe is LII-Ne...so yeah.

Yeah I meant both Se-POLR and Si-HA, weak Si is what I was getting at I corrected myself after you quoted me!

[Krig the Viking]

I think your customer-related difficulties are tied to Vulnerable Se. You have great difficulty asserting yourself, and then when it finally gets too much, you snap and go overboard and assert yourself too much. That's pretty characteristic of the Vulnerable function, from what I understand. Meanwhile, you have Role Fi considerations always in the back of your mind -- you don't want to make the customers dislike you, because you'll get in trouble with your boss. An ILE, I think, would be better at sticking up for herself (Se), but worse at making the customers like her (Fi).

I go through the exact same stuff at my job, so I feel your pain.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Suz]

I agree with this. Maybe EII? She also VIs and have similar expressions like Suzzy.

I dont know, i thought Suzzy was a little different.

for one thing, I thought W-L was more technical in what she chose to talk about (which imo reflects a lot about one's mindset and thus type). Along those lines I thought Suzzy was more people oriented that way.

[The Exception]

Got some questions:
I don't understand that librarian stuff actually. Sounds boring, you got the user from your workplace, then talk always about it, got a website, for a looong time, everything gravitates around this. Is this so important and how can you resist to stay attached to this endeavor for so long?
I'd go crazy.

Here's what I like about the librarian profession:

*When a patron has a reference question involving some degree of research, to me its like a puzzle to solve. I like the puzzle solving aspect.

*Through answering reference questions for people, I learn alot of new things myself. I love learning new stuff.

*Knowing that I'm making a difference. For example, I had a user who knew very little about computers but had to do an online job application. I helped him through it and two weeks later he comes into the library to tell me he got the job and he owed it largely to my assistance.

*There's actually quite a diversity in what librarians do. There are multiple specialities and sub-specialties. There's reference, acquisitions, cataloging, youth services, outreach services, management, just to name a few.

There are also public libraries typically run by the city or the county, college/university libraries, corporate libraries, law libraries, etc. The nature of the job is very different depending on the type of work/library involved. I'm currently staff the reference desk in an urban public library.

Okay, that was probably more than you wanted to know.

And I am less and less confident on ILE, as I said earlier. I may have a tendency to mistype LII-Ne types as ILE-Ti types because I can see some differences in how WL comes off compared to those who I have typed ILE-Ti beyond shadow of a doubt.

And if I were to compared you, WL, to any community member, it would be Carla...who I honestly believe is LII-Ne...so yeah.

Does Carla post here anymore? I miss her.

LII was my first thought while watching the video. Obvious introvert VI.

I went to college with a lot of LIIs and the way you talk and act is very similar. I also think that you obviously have a large preference for Ti in part based on what you chose to talk about (the dichotomies, etc, and the structure of socionics).

Not ILE by any stretch of the imagination, Maritsa!! I see no Fe-HA in her, nor any Fi-POLR. Instead I see Se-POLR and Si-HA by the way you're sitting, W-L, and the way you carry yourself, the way you're dressed, etc.

EDIT: and looks like a bunch of people here agree with me! Yay! I think my typing skills are getting pretty good!

I noticed that I was pretty stationary in those videos and didn't move around alot. I couldn't get the camera to show much of my body beyond my face, so I think that compounded the looking stationary effect.

It's good to have someone else's insight as to how I come across body-wise. What specific aspects did you see in me that led you to believe Se-PoLR and Si-HA. i.e. How would you think an Si or Se base type would carry themselves and sit and dress compared to myself?

I think your customer-related difficulties are tied to Vulnerable Se. You have great difficulty asserting yourself, and then when it finally gets too much, you snap and go overboard and assert yourself too much. That's pretty characteristic of the Vulnerable function, from what I understand. Meanwhile, you have Role Fi considerations always in the back of your mind -- you don't want to make the customers dislike you, because you'll get in trouble with your boss. An ILE, I think, would be better at sticking up for herself (Se), but worse at making the customers like her (Fi).

I go through the exact same stuff at my job, so I feel your pain.

I think you hit the nail on the head here.

Here's another question:

I am prone to feeling guilty after an angry outburst with someone. Sometimes I'm not even really that angry and my expression of anger can be rather subtle, but I'll stew about it for a long time afterwards. Other people, are more inclined to just completely forgot it about it afterwards or think, well they had it coming, they deserved it, why should I feel guilty? I think this guilt I experience is another way in which role Fi manifests. Would you agree?

[The Exception]

Thanks to all you who posted in this thread and gave me feedback. I'm going back to --one. ILE made a good run for its money but LII emerges victorious.