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    so how does VI work with identical twins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huitzilopochtli View Post
    so how does VI work with identical twins?
    Different demeanors and facial expressions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolanzon View Post
    Different demeanors and facial expressions.
    +1, and also how they choose to present themselves. Generally, people who know identical twins reasonably well can easily tell them apart, not just by things like extra moles but their walk, speech patterns, "gaze", etc.
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    Nobody here...besides me, seems to know what SLE is except for maybe Maritsa.

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    cool, thanks

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    information metabolism is a form of behavior; I have also found it quite rare (but not unheard of) that identical twins share personality

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    I'm an identical twin and my sister and I definitely have some obvious IM differences
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    I haven't met true identical twins who have different types, but they can have sort of different personalities, unfortunately I have no proof to back up it's the same with all, so, dunno.

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    it seems that identical twins are clones and have exact the same genes, this in contrary to non identical twins who share half. (or something like that, I've read it quickly)

    So it probably very likely that identical twins have the same type. But I guess you would have to take some tests to know it for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Here...take away makeup and skin, just look at the skeletal formation and you have the same type...ISFp

    http://allwomenstalk.com/wp-content/thumbs/39366.jpg
    This is assuming skeletal formation correlates with type. Something that isn't quite panning out per my observations of your typology method.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    What observations do you have to add?
    What boggles my mind is how foolproof you feel your VI technique is. Show me the evidence that type is related to skeletal structure. Heck, show me the evidence that sociotype depends 100% on DNA.

    There is none.

    My personal feeling is that sociotype may be hereditary and/or inborn, but I highly doubt it's determined solely by the nucleotide sequence of DNA.

    My sister and I are identical twins. We have confirmed identical DNA. We dont look 100% alike, we dont have the same skeletal structure.

    You typed me SEE by your VI technique.
    You typed her SEI by your VI technique.

    I relate best to IEE.
    She relates best to EII.

    You wanted an observation. You got one. Sorry to say, you and your teachers need to rework this VI technique. It's imperfect. (assuming VI can even be relied upon in general as a sole way of determine type--i'm highly skeptical).
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    Everything Workaholics said is completely true.
    "And above all, watch with glittering eyes the whole world around you because the greatest secrets are always hidden in the most unlikely places. Those who don't believe in magic will never find it." -Roald Dahl

    http://forum.socionix.com/
    It's pretty cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    In a book that I read...Twin studies...they used factor 5 psychology test to assess to twins and found a positive correlation between identical twins (same genes) and the catagories of the test.
    That still doesn't explain skeletal structure vs type.

    p.s. I know what identical twins means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I just explain why...because if they are genetically the same and not typelogically the same, they would not have been able to score the same results on the factor 5 test. They scored the same results as in basically they think the same way or have the same value or wiring.
    You STILL are missing the structural link here. Which is what brings us down to your pure VI techniques.

    People can be genetically the same but have different bone structure. Embryology and development is a complex process that goes beyond simple nucleotide sequence.



    As far as twins scoring similarly on such tests--sure it's to be expected to an extent. It's not 100% though.

    My sister and I are in the same quadra. . .
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    Identical twins seperated at birth when meet up at later life have similar ways of dressing, ways of saying things, attitudes, personality even their handwriting is almost the same.

    So I don't see why their socionic type can't be the same, given they are similar in so many other ways.

    Just a small sample of many things:

    Identical twins reunited after 35 years - Telegraph

    "It's not just our taste in music or books; it goes beyond that. In her, I see the same basic personality. And yet, eventually we had to realise that we're different people with different life histories."

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