Delta compared to Alpha, Beta, and Gamma Quadra
I'm new at this, so what makes Deltas different from the lesser three quads?
del*ta - 1. the fourth letter of the Greek alphabet. 2. anything triangular, like the Greek capital3. a nearly flat plain of alluvial deposit between between diverging brances of the mouth of a river.
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a good link
Delta Quadra - Wikisocion
Perception of other quadras
[edit] Alpha
Deltas tend to see Alpha types as fun company and interesting people to discuss ideas and prospects with, but naive and inconsistent in their personal and business relationships. Alpha types seem to lack the common sense to turn their fun and creative energy into something productive and often seem overly idealistic.
[edit] Beta
Deltas tend to see Beta types as people who "dream big" and always want to turn things into grandiose endeavors, yet can't manage day-to-day affairs effectively. Also, Beta types seem unwilling to consider things from the point of view of others, which gives them a streak of meanness and cruelty.
[edit] Gamma
Deltas tend to see Gamma types as driven and reliable in personal and business relationships, but not sufficiently understanding of people who want to pursue their own individual path in life. Gamma types sometimes become too demanding and can have a streak of vindictiveness or spitefulness which prevents them from being accepting and forgiving.
Delta gets its name because there simply are four quadras. Delta is forth, perhaps, because it is thought of as "the older quadra"; each quadra representing things characteristic to a certain time period in human lifespan... alphas being childish, betas being teenagers, gammes being adults, and deltas as the elders.
It may also somewhat be related to the founder being ENTp, and her deciding to start "quadras" there. I am particularly unsure about the previous sentence, however. Someone who knows more history about socionics might be able to say.
Also, for a particularly interesting take on quadras....
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http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...elay-race.html
Wow! That's pretty much how I was thinking. I also found this....Originally Posted by Ryu
Originally Posted by Topaz
@schrödinger's cat: when you look at the conscious and unconscious attitudes of Delta, which areyou can see that we all agree on certain lines of thinking and action. For example
is about bodily comfort, beauty and simplicity and cleanliness (at least I think it is
) So all of Delta have that as a particular value.
is about logic and objective order and just plain commo sense, also efficency and not wasting recources. Definitely Delta Values.
says Delta is about fantasy, potential and originality, making something useful out of something old, creating an idealized world (or apartment :wink: ) Finally
is out there, power, position, strength, push, pull, grab.
in your face emotions; anger, passion, love, crying, rejoicing, ennui etc. does not like its emotions laid out for the public to walk on. It is subtle, removed, focused on principles and intergrity etc.
wants to make systems and come up with its own way of classifying everything. It goes deep into its own view seeking to perfect it.
I think Delta is like an egg.
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There is one thing about the Delta descriptions that I think is inaccurate, and it's that Deltas are this wise and mature quadra. We deltas can be just as immature as other quadras, minus the "crazy" type of immaturity though. I've noticed that idealism and naivety has a way of going hand and hand as well.I'm new at this, so what makes Deltas different from the lesser three quads?
del*ta - 1. the fourth letter of the Greek alphabet. 2. anything triangular, like the Greek capital
Something that I don't quite get is how someone is supposed to know if you belong to a certain quadra. Do I give off a Delta vibe? How about an INFj vibe? I don't think there's a clear cut way to determine it.
Delta information pipeline is considered mature, not the individuals. Besides, maturity is not implicitly better than any other stage.
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You know what? You're an individual, and that makes people nervous. And it's gonna keep making people nervous for the rest of your life. - Ole Golly from Harriet, the spy.
What does this mean? Their information pipeline would surely be Si/Ne? and their judgement pipeline Te/Fi?
While a bit vague and oversimplified, this fits delta pretty well as a one-liner. Also, delta is basically the "mature" quadra for its place in the internal socion cycle.; its the stabilizing of the macro-internal processes of the socion.I think Delta is like an egg.
Or to put it in more familiar terms:
Wond'ring aloud, How we feel today. Last night sipped the sunset, My hand in her hair. We are our own saviours, As we start both our hearts, Beating life Into each other. ~Ian Anderson
OMG! Si = aunts stuffing you with milk and cookies!
Si = the caretaker who consistently focuses on maintaining a favorable environment.
Wond'ring aloud, How we feel today. Last night sipped the sunset, My hand in her hair. We are our own saviours, As we start both our hearts, Beating life Into each other. ~Ian Anderson
In an intimate relationship I'd expect a caregiver to "nurture". To maintain a certain environment condusive to the continuation of our bond.
That doesn't mean Si is "nurturing" or "perceives comfort". It means that within the context of relationships (usually more intimate or at least close) it means that Si behavior can be described as "nurturing"
The end is nigh
wow tom we are of like mind lol
The end is nigh
I'll give your aunt a good stuffing.
I'm also starting to think Delta has this slightly subversive element to it. In an awesome way.
I forgot why I think that, though. Maybe I'll have a brainwave today.
If we feed our partners lots of cookies then they'll get a fatter ass so they'll be even more comfortable when sitting down.
In the socion cycle, Deltas stabalize resources and tie up loose ends in preparation for the Alpha paradigm shift (which they are unaware of and will eventually come to resent even as they unknowingly set the foundations).
The end is nigh
Pffffftt hahahahahahahaha
Or not resent, if they see the continuation of the cycle as an unending form of stability. The lack of Fi is a bit ruinous, though.
Wond'ring aloud, How we feel today. Last night sipped the sunset, My hand in her hair. We are our own saviours, As we start both our hearts, Beating life Into each other. ~Ian Anderson
Ruinous powers of CHAOS.
Si + Fe
The end is nigh
ISTPJIM YOU CHANGED YOUR NAME!
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
That's a bit simplified but accurate. There was another old post by the same user on the same subject that went something like "if you're Delta then you like this&that and dislike this&that..." that was even shorter but very Delta-esque. I'll see if I can find it.Wow! That's pretty much how I was thinking. I also found this....
Originally Posted by Topaz
@schrödinger's cat: when you look at the conscious and unconscious attitudes of Delta, which are
I think Delta is like an egg.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Witness protection program. shhh.
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