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    Default Hello! I'm Joe

    And I'm still not 100% on anything so I would like to interact with as many types as possible to help clarify my own type. If your up for a chat about... well... anything really, please feel free to send me a PM or add me on AIM.

    IEIs SEIs and ILIs preferred as one of those types are most likely my dual.

    EDIT: would enjoy discussing socionics types and how they relate to you, or difficulties you are having with your own type.
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    Your own type is Ti ESTp. Deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    Out of curiosity, Mr. Joe, what's your age limit?
    Half plus seven. That's the rule you do not go below that limit.

    I'm 19 so half of that is 9.5, plus 7 is 16.5 so I can't talk to any one below that age limit. This rule is valid through college, and applies to all males. I however increase my personal age limit to 18 out of preference for talking about dirty things and making sexual references that I would feel inappropriate making with anyone below the a fore mentioned age.

    The age limit is only lower, there is no upper age limit aka Dirty Grandma's; BRING IT ON!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Half plus seven. That's the rule you do not go below that limit.

    I'm 19 so half of that is 9.5, plus 7 is 16.5 so I can't talk to any one below that age limit. This rule is valid through college, and applies to all males. I however increase my personal age limit to 18 out of preference for talking about dirty things and making sexual references that I would feel inappropriate making with anyone below the a fore mentioned age.
    This is legit, and I'm pretty sure I've adhered to it.

    The age limit is only lower, there is no upper age limit aka Dirty Grandma's; BRING IT ON!
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    Lol... Are you talking about me??
    LOL

    Males ONLY???
    I think so. I mean, it's not as perverted for a 23 year-old female to 'talk' with an 18 year-old male, as it is the other way around, just due to gender roles and maturity (i.e. young guys can 'learn' and experience, whereas young girls shouldn't be 'taught' in such a manner imo).
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    Dude, I totally did not give you permission to hit or be hit on by anything. You'd best get back in the bedroom and put on that nighty I bought for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    Lol... Are you talking about me??
    Well despite the fact that you are indeed a very attractive woman and also older than me I was not referring to you directly. It was more of a general statement since there are so many older woman on this forum who I personally would deem as physically attractive.
    And btw, in what way was chatting with me not enough to decide your type???
    Well the parts about relationships could be not type related and simply due to the fact that we have had similar experiences when it comes to the opposite sex. Regardless It was a pleasant chat, we should do it again sometime. aka LOG ON TO MSN! that is all
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanprollyright View Post
    Dude, I totally did not give you permission to hit or be hit on by anything. You'd best get back in the bedroom and put on that nighty I bought for you.
    *whines* But it's pink! You know I don't like pink!
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    I don't trust guys who brag about their conquests on the internet. Pics or it didn't happen ya know?

    In the locker room or at starr, (been around males most of my life) I heard some stories and really most of them turned out to be fibs or exaggerations. In short, I don't believe how good of a lover you are until you have your hands on me. But you're straight, so that will never happen. So therefore, either way- you're screwed and I won't believe you. =D

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    I don't trust guys who brag about their conquests on the internet. Pics or it didn't happen ya know?

    In the locker room or at starr, (been around males most of my life) I heard some stories and really most of them turned out to be fibs or exaggerations. In short, I don't believe how good of a lover you are until you have your hands on me. But you're straight, so that will never happen. So therefore, either way- you're screwed and I won't believe you. =D
    *laughs* What on earth are you talking about? I haven't bragged about anything... have I? I really don't think I have...

    Link or it didn't happen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Half plus seven. That's the rule you do not go below that limit.
    OK, so when I was fourteen I liked this girl that was 6 months younger than me (she was still in my graduating class). So I wouldn't have been allowed to date her until I was fifteen!

    14(my age) /2 = 7. 7+7 = 14(how old she has to be) > 13.5 (her age at my given age)

    14.5/2 = 7.25. 7.25+7 = 14.25 > 14.0

    15/2 = 7.5. 7.5+7 = 14.5 = 14.5
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    Yup... The rule actually only comes into play at about HS, the age where sex usually becomes a concern.
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    I made a graph of this rule once. It's somewhere on this forum. I can date ment between 17 and 26
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    Quote Originally Posted by mn0good View Post
    I made a graph of this rule once. It's somewhere on this forum. I can date ment between 17 and 26
    That doesn't make sense, the rule doesn't have an upper age limit. You mean you can date men older than 17?

    The trick is if your dating some one way older than you, is to make sure they don't know about the rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    Can't. Technical problem. Will be back soon...
    Okie dokie, but for the record ILIs are too victims!

    Victim - Wikisocion

    Also after reading the quadra values I've decided I value the fuck outta
    Completely agree that the silent treatment is the worst thing you can do to some one
    Quadra - Wikisocion

    At least if that wiki is to be trusted
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Completely agree that the silent treatment is the worst thing you can do to some one
    I did the silent treatment to someone for a month, it almost killed me

    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    I mean, it's not as perverted for a 23 year-old female to 'talk' with an 18 year-old male, as it is the other way around, just due to gender roles and maturity (i.e. young guys can 'learn' and experience, whereas young girls shouldn't be 'taught' in such a manner imo).
    I always saw it as the other way around - older man/younger woman is far more common than the converse. Women like Demi Moore and Madonna are far rarer than the millions of rich men with trophy wives. Isn't that also why there's no popular male equivalent of the term "cougar"? I guess "golddigger" is also more widely applied to women, but it's probably all just a byproduct of the way society prefers to look down on female sexuality...
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    Nobody here...besides me, seems to know what SLE is except for maybe Maritsa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octopuslove View Post
    I always saw it as the other way around - older man/younger woman is far more common than the converse. Women like Demi Moore and Madonna are far rarer than the millions of rich men with trophy wives. Isn't that also why there's no popular male equivalent of the term "cougar"? I guess "golddigger" is also more widely applied to women, but it's probably all just a byproduct of the way society prefers to look down on female sexuality...
    I meant in regards to the specifically mentioned age group (16-25 or so). But I agree that past that age range, it is more normal for older men to be with younger women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by octopuslove View Post
    I did the silent treatment to someone for a month, it almost killed me
    What a bitch move! Did they like have a heart attack and die or something? Personally I prolly woulda had an ulcer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Half plus seven. That's the rule you do not go below that limit.

    I'm 19 so half of that is 9.5, plus 7 is 16.5 so I can't talk to any one below that age limit. This rule is valid through college, and applies to all males. I however increase my personal age limit to 18 out of preference for talking about dirty things and making sexual references that I would feel inappropriate making with anyone below the a fore mentioned age.

    The age limit is only lower, there is no upper age limit aka Dirty Grandma's; BRING IT ON!
    you know, the first time i read of this whole half + 7 rule was in malcolm x's biography, talking about it being a big islamic thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    Age disparity in sexual relationships - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    I've always been into guys that are “too old” for me. Hah.
    Which can lead to certain dilemmas:


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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    The Scarlett Letter had nothing to do with age difference.

    On the other hand, this one is quite exemplary:

    YouTube - Somewhere Out There (Duet with mss12000)
    I guess when the first one isn't old enough, some girls go for even older, which can get very confusing - to the point where the object of fixation turns back to the same sex

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    What a bitch move! Did they like have a heart attack and die or something? Personally I prolly woulda had an ulcer.
    I know, I felt terrible. I did the frostily-polite-interactions-only manoeuvre too. He just looked at me like a rabbit in the headlights when I talked to him and tried to be extra cheerful while I just glared, it was actually kind of fun at the same time. He eventually apologised and then jumped a mile when I took a swipe at him with a sharp object. I did it another time to the same guy over his birthday.

    Actually, someone once did the silent treatment to me, and I just entertained myself by standing in his way all the time and laughing at what a douche he was being. I didn't really care about him though, if a friend did that to me I'd apologise right away. Unlike the first guy, who clearly doesn't learn from experience...
    Quote Originally Posted by Agee The Great View Post
    Nobody here...besides me, seems to know what SLE is except for maybe Maritsa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octopuslove View Post
    I know, I felt terrible. I did the frostily-polite-interactions-only manoeuvre too. He just looked at me like a rabbit in the headlights when I talked to him and tried to be extra cheerful while I just glared, it was actually kind of fun at the same time. He eventually apologised and then jumped a mile when I took a swipe at him with a sharp object. I did it another time to the same guy over his birthday.

    Actually, someone once did the silent treatment to me, and I just entertained myself by standing in his way all the time and laughing at what a douche he was being. I didn't really care about him though, if a friend did that to me I'd apologise right away. Unlike the first guy, who clearly doesn't learn from experience...
    The two scariest things in the world; the silent treatment and sharp objects... You ma'am, are scary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Implied
    you know, the first time i read of this whole half + 7 rule was in malcolm x's biography, talking about it being a big islamic thing.


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    Really? I almost read that just last month! I decided against cause this website is stupid and addicting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    Omg lol! Are you going gay with Elda??
    You have to do better than that. You have to actually connect it to the last thing I say, you can't suddenly switch contexts. There has to be continuity, otherwise we might as well throw playground insults at each other. You're an excellent writer, and capable of much more than this - and I am an intelligent enough human being that our standards can be kept high. In your previous post you were talking about girls, so I responded back talking about girls, now for you to suddenly switch it like this totally destroys the integrity of this exchange.

    What would've been better is if you took the exact same point I made to you and flipped it around and found a context where it could connect with something you know about me or can try to pin on me based on openings in my post.

    So for example, in response to this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve
    I guess when the first one isn't old enough, some girls go for even older, which can get very confusing - to the point where the object of fixation turns back to the same sex
    Something slightly better would've been like, "You must be experienced enough with this sort of confusion - work out the confusion yet? Because it looks like you're very confused"

    While this is slightly more effective, it is still quite typical of, and has a striking resemblance to, an Allie-like response, which doesn't say much.

    -I would've probably responded to that with a jesting comment about the confusion of your type.

    A much more effective response would've been, "I can only imagine what you know about objects of fixation of the same sex"

    It has a much more penetrative quality, and leaves the reader's imagination open to possibilities. It's like setting up a situation of potentials that would sort of trap me, AND, the attention would be shifted off of you and back onto me, which is what you'd want.

    Anyway, see how that response preserves the original context but turns it around back on me? I wasn't talking about male homosexuality in my initial post, but about female homosexuality, so you can't make a comment implying that I was referring to male homosexuality because it comes across as you missing a link in the chain here. What you CAN do, is acknowledge the female homosexuality and then given the context turn it back around at me like I did in the example above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    You didn't bother to specify the confused nor the object of fixation.
    Hmm, you're right to an extent. I thought it was implicit since the topic of the sentence was about what some girls do - finding older guys. Though I should have further specified as follows:

    "I guess when the first guy isn't old enough, some girls go for even older guys, which can get very confusing for the girl - to the point where they begin to turn the object of their fixation back to the same sex"

    Which would probably leave much less wiggle room.

    This is fun. It's like free debate class.

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    that exchange was funny to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    Even the fact that that's what it's about, girls going for older guys, doesn't change that without specification, it makes complete sense that the guy in question was confused, and also that he was an object of fixation. It refers back to context established in the previous post.

    I was under the impression that you took debate class in college.
    The subject of the paragraphs in the exchange was the girl. Any mention of guys were only either as direct objects or objects of prepositions, never as the subject "doing" something. Therefore unless distinctly specified it is fair to assume that the original subject remains. By thinking guys were mentioned as the subject, you go off on a tangential possibility, one that in order to be realized, must come with specific mention, of which there was none.

    Just like in music where a note is sharped in a measure, the note continues to be sharped for the rest of the measure unless specifically noted.

    I didn't take debate class, I prefer real life debates instead Academia is useless up against real world experience.

    One priceless thing that no class could ever provide is the magnificent demonstration of an ability to pick apart contexts, processing them as discrete abstract variables with intrinsic properties, according to underlying external rules or criteria that you continually define- that we've seen from you today. I'm impressed. At least it proves the notion that all quadra functions are "strong".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    im just here for the wine coolers.
    Careful, the ice may melt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    what
    *burp*

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    I'm not appealing to something official, some guide of language rules or propositions. It's a very simple thing. By using a dash, you're making it seem like you split your phrasing into two sentences. "I guess when the first one isn't old enough, some girls go for even older, which can get very confusing - [dash] - to the point where the object of fixation turns back to the same sex" . So you have "some girls go for even older", "some girls" being the subject and "go" being the verb. And then you have "the object of fixation turns back", "the object of fixation" being the subject and "turns back" the verb. That's the guy "doing something", that's the verb. I read them as two separate statements. At this point you haven't specified the object of fixation, but it's reasonable to assume that when speaking of the girls, they have an object of fixation, which in turn is being confused by the girls "going for even older". Why would the merit of "confused" necessarily be attached to the girls? Just because the girls "went for someone older" doesn't necessitate them being confused. It's not something automatically more reasonable to assume. The guy could be confused because of a perceived change, and turn to the opposite sex for comfort.
    While what you said contains is an entirely plausible interpretation, I still think that the subject of "who" is having the fixation is left equally ambiguous, and therefore by default the assumption is to go with the subject mentioned previously. Since "guys" were never a subject in the sentences in the conversation, there is no unique signal that would prompt one to assume it is "guys" when choosing from a 50/50 guess of who could be the subject.

    Fortunately now it is clear what I meant with the original comment. Carry on.

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    And that, my good friends and gentle readers, is the story of how even threads with seemingly no topic can get de-railed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    And that, my good friends and gentle readers, is the story of how even threads with seemingly no topic can get de-railed.
    lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    lol!
    I'm so glad you got the humor and didn't get all pissy
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    I'm not appealing to something official, some guide of language rules or propositions. It's a very simple thing. By using a dash, you're making it seem like you split your phrasing into two sentences. "I guess when the first one isn't old enough, some girls go for even older, which can get very confusing - [dash] - to the point where the object of fixation turns back to the same sex" . So you have "some girls go for even older", "some girls" being the subject and "go" being the verb. And then you have "the object of fixation turns back", "the object of fixation" being the subject and "turns back" the verb. That's the guy "doing something", that's the verb. I read them as two separate statements. At this point you haven't specified the object of fixation, but it's reasonable to assume that when speaking of the girls, they have an object of fixation, which in turn is being confused by the girls "going for even older". Why would the merit of "confused" necessarily be attached to the girls? Just because the girls "went for someone older" doesn't necessitate them being confused. It's not something automatically more reasonable to assume. The guy could be confused because of a perceived change, and turn to the opposite sex for comfort.
    This is a very good explanation for something which doesnt matter at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    I'm so glad you got the humor and didn't get all pissy
    Actually it was right on accurate

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