Where are you all coming from?
Where are you all coming from?
y so no AIM
Do I get to be the charismatic SF war leader?
How about the charismatic Alpha Extravert war leader?
The saddest ESFj
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You can be the war leader if we can find a decent war. They're kinda hard to come by nowadays...
Maybe we should make one. Think "Flame Warriors" could be played out as an act?
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
What plans? What are you talking about?!
I think you've been struck by this terrible thing.
As, of course, there certainly aren't any "plans" to be intercepted, after all. *whistles innocently*
IJ temperament
LII ()
LII-Ne
H-LII
Ni-LII
iei-LII
Enneagram: 5(w4?)
the fragile balance between objective and subjective philosophy on this forum is being disrupted
subjective does not = introversion
I remember reading an article on Wikisocion about the Ethics-Logic dichotomy, and how it, too, is often confused with "subjective thinking" and "objective thinking".
In passing, it mentions that the introversion-extraversion is more likely to be that dividing line. They were probably getting at how Extraverted functions pick up information on objects, and how Introverted functions pick up information from the "fields" between them.
If you want to see the article, here's the link.
Here's the quote, though:
I'm not entirely sure about that, either, as I think objectivity and subjectivity can be a learned behaviour of any type, which I think is also in that article, as well. I'm not entirely sure if it is, though.It is interesting that C. G. Jung correlated the tendency towards objectivity not with logic / ethics but with another dichotomy – vertness.... Introverted types differ from extroverted in the fact that they are oriented predominantly not on the object and not on objective data, but on subjective factors. In an introvert, between the perception of an object and its own action there is a subjective opinion, which prevents the action from acquiring an objective nature." [9, p.415]
@Coo: You're very welcome. It's my pleasure to point out delusions and correct them. *continues to whistle innocently*
IJ temperament
LII ()
LII-Ne
H-LII
Ni-LII
iei-LII
Enneagram: 5(w4?)
Currere, this is your fault.
From what I understand, it's divided like this:
Subjectivity: Se, Fi, Ti, Ne
Objectivity: Si, Te, Fe, Ni
Where a necessary part of objectivity is the ability to distinguish between objects; and with subjectivity, the experience of the information is emphasized, and boundaries between objects are not.
The impression objective & subjective implies a difference in the information itself which is processed is wrong. We know that objectivity & subjectivity are two separate ways of looking at the same thing.
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
That could make sense, because in one of Augusta's articles, she quickly defines the elements, dividing them into static and dynamic. She then states that the static ring of functions is "analytical thinking" and the dynamic ring of functions is "synthetic thinking".
Since the two are opposite methods, I could definitely see that being the case.
@Khola: We will not abandon them to torment and death! Not while we have strength left.
So, I take, it we need to begin a Fellowship of NTs to accomplish this *ahem* "task" of ours?
IJ temperament
LII ()
LII-Ne
H-LII
Ni-LII
iei-LII
Enneagram: 5(w4?)
The value of LIIs is plummeting due to inflation. Better invest in ESEs instead.
Hehe, I'm in demand :redface:
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi