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    This is not the real thing, necessarily. Sure God is more than a personality type, but let's not disclude it from argument all too easily. Try to build a convincing argument as to why God is the type you picked. Explain your point through references like the Bible or other general teachings.

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    I'll start it off by suggesting that he's an Alpha. Most everything I know about him suggests "judicious" and "merry."

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    This has been discussed before, and there are two main schools of thought: One is that god is LII, the other is that god is ILI. You can read the entire thread here.

    Personally I think that a being that supposedly created existence with nothing to base their ideas off of would be rather -ish, and that the frequent defining of god through the use of aphorisms may point at a dynamic nature, probably , so I am all for ILI. I think an valuing type would have created multiple universes and realities to test and play with all sorts of unimaginable things, but I have never heard an account of god doing this. What points to an Ip temperament is many accounts of god being unhappy with this reality and flooding the earth - instead of bothering to go through the appropriate paperwork, peer review and waiting period required to build another reality, god basically just said 'fuck it' and decided to see how this one panned out instead, probably thinking that if it was watered, it might grow into something better, as if Earth was a plant or something.

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    God is LSI. Laying down all those strict rules, jealous, demanding unwavering faith...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    God is LSI. Laying down all those strict rules, jealous, demanding unwavering faith...
    LMAO... yeah, Gilly's right--old testament God was LSI... New testament God is INFx ... Maybe SmilingEyes is right about type changing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virekz View Post
    I think an valuing type would have created multiple universes and realities to test and play with all sorts of unimaginable things
    That's the current thought about the universe. Well, the thought of science people who are generali hmmm.

    btw I think ILI too. Although I would have personally not build people as dumb as they are now. But then again, I am smarter than god.

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    My God is smarter than everyone. Not sure about yours.

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    i think he is typeless

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    This is not the real thing, necessarily. Sure God is more than a personality type, but let's not disclude it from argument all too easily. Try to build a convincing argument as to why God is the type you picked. Explain your point through references like the Bible or other general teachings.
    Pick a book in the Bible or look across different authors and sources for the materials, and you will get quite different pictures. The most consistent image in the collage, however, is that of an LSI. YHWH is one who establishes the created order of the cosmos, and despite being slow to anger, and abounding in patience and steadfast love, God is comfortable at exercising displays of force as appropriate (no matter how excessive they may appear to be). Love is expressed as respectful devotion to this cosmic order present in creation, God's covenants, and the Torah. YHWH also acts as the righteous judge. Despite an insistence that there is a difference between OT and NT God, the depiction is actually fairly consistent when you look at what is being expressed. This assessment is based upon a literary analysis of God the character, and not on personal feelings or theology, or any personal religious experience or the lackthereof.
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    I've read that, according to some psychological theory, we ascribe to God the same personality traits our father has.
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    God is the opposite of the devil. The Devil is SLE, God is EII
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    God is the opposite of the devil. The Devil is SLE, God is EII
    LOL .. I used to think that too, but now i believe they are at least mirror LSI-SLE if not identical. Remember the winner writes the rules and they're the ones the rest of us live by etc. The reason that the devil had made himself so different is his need to carve out an identity for himself independent from that of God ....... "better to reign i hell than to serve in heaven"

    Now Jesus INFJ could well be a conflictor in terms of expressed principles and actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    God is the opposite of the devil. The Devil is SLE, God is EII
    I don't think it works that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    I don't think it works that way.
    I think it does.
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    "God is a concept by which we measure our pain" -- John Lennon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    God is Jesus and Jesus VI's like Jesus. Therefore, God is INFj.

    lmao
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    The Devil is SLE? That's good to know.

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    Zeus is a clear ESE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemex View Post
    Zeus is a clear ESE.
    SLE.
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    OK .... God is ESTJ .... Dual to Jesus INFJ and relations of Quasi identity (major misunderstanding) withe the devil ESTP.

    If God and Jesus are part of one and the same thing they must be duals.
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    Is there a manual of how to create a universe?

    This is important evidence to whether God can be an LSI.

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    God - LSI
    Jesus - EIE
    Satan - SLE
    Holy Spirit - must be IEI
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    God - LSI
    Jesus - EIE
    Satan - SLE
    Holy Spirit - must be IEI
    Beta = Drama

    Statement = True
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Beta = Drama

    Statement = True
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Is there a manual of how to create a universe?

    This is important evidence to whether God can be an LSI.
    Is a six day play-by-play not good enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Is there a manual of how to create a universe?

    This is important evidence to whether God can be an LSI.
    HA



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    I think the Devil is Beta something, valuing pride and free will, EIE maybe
    Ugh. UGH. UGH.

    The sheer ignorance/stupidity of some of you all.

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    God is some kind of game nerd since he likes to play universe tycoon.

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    I think that's almost entirely bullshit
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    I think to create anything objective you need some Democratic functioning. Prototypically, ST functioning just implements and NF functioning just _rationalizes -- powerful speaches, social manuevering, or works of art might put ideas into people's heads, but typically it's someone who spends less time outputting and more time inputting who comes up with them in the first place. And I don't think it's more so related to Introversion/Extroversion instead, as that would make little sense for LII vs. ILE (e.g. Marx). The time IEI don't spend "Fe-ing" to large groups isn't really spent being some sort of Analytical powerhouse. More so, it's spent on something like artistic expression (note the tendency towards poetry and other Analytically inefficient storage medium) or manipulating smaller groups. After all, traces of a lot of Beta "revolutionary ideas" can be found (in often more coherent forms) years earlier among the thought experiements of someone like an Aristotle. I do think some Aristocrats may use some Democratic functioning though.
    Well, most of the descriptions of the Creation sound like "he imagined it and it happened." He may have needed some Ti for implementation - all the laws of the universe, etc. No Xe element seems appropriate, because there wasn't anything to be objective about before the universe began. Though, God may have obtained an Xe element in the process of creating the universe...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    God is Jesus and Jesus VI's like Jesus. Therefore, God is INFj.
    A guy came to me one time, and asked me if I wanted to play Jesus in a Passion play. His wife saw me, and then told him "that's the guy that could play Jesus" . I also have a friend that calls me Jesus because I had beard one time. I guess I VI like Jesus paintings somehow, but it's big leap to say Jesus is INFj. Obviously, I know you were joking, but it's iffy to type a deity.

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    We are God and god is in each of us
    so most probably God is XXXx and god is ILI

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    Which allmighty type would come up with the idea to create a universe.

    Probably some NT nerd. Also I think Alpha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Which allmighty type would come up with the idea to create a universe.

    Probably some NT nerd. Also I think Alpha.
    Alpha and Omega ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isha View Post
    Which God, and according to whom?

    Even when you're theoretically talking about the same (Abrahamic, I presume) God, you have some people who insist he's Morgan Freeman, others who insist she's Alanis Morisette, and even a third party who insist he's a self-righteous, violent father-figure resembling Fred Phelps.
    LOL

    I hope I hear Morgan Freeman's voice when I die.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    lol, can you imagine a little black baby, wearing tiny shoes and a diaper and talking in Morgan Freeman's voice?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    God is Jesus Christ


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    Jesus in the New Testament believed he was the same as the god of the Old. They have somewhat different personalities, although still inherently ideologically violent.

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    It's like to ask is God right- or left-handed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    Jesus in the New Testament believed he was the same as the god of the Old
    He called himself son/child of God, like any may say. He never called himself God, never said about himself as identical to God. Jesus was follower of Judaism in basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    They have somewhat different personalities, although still inherently ideologically violent.
    Essence Chrisianity rejects violence ideologically. The main violent ideology today is liberalism wich is secular form of Satanism and an indirect form of fascism/hitlеrism.

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