I'm Chloe from Croatia!

[Chloe]

Hi, I'm Chloe, I'm 22.
I am coming from typology forum, I've been reading for about a month on MBTI .. I'm an ENFP, but Socionic's IEE even matches to me better. When I red it I was like "Who told them that about me?" -looking paranoic around myself-

So basically I am extremely confused with Socionics so I hope I will fhere ind out about it more... and btw. what I already don't like is 3rd and 4th function for ex. ENFp, which re Ti and Se according to Socionics; and I'm sure my Te is much better developed than Ti - I'm good organizer and so...

[Creepy-bg]

hello chloe what do you know?

[Chloe]

Not much. Only red few profiles and that's it. Don't understand that Quadras
Ex. From all N's I least like and can't connect to INFJ (in MBTI), at least I think ... and we are both Delta. I know Is don't translate directly from MBTI into Socionics...

[crazedrat]

chloe from croatia .. your writing sounds like those porno stories and biographies that you find in porno magazines.

[Jarno]

and btw. what I already don't like is 3rd and 4th function for ex. ENFp, which re Ti and Se according to Socionics; and I'm sure my Te is much better developed than Ti - I'm good organizer and so...

Those elements have a global meaning.

Te better than Ti is normal for IEE, so I don't see why it's confusing.

The ENFp's that I know are good organizers too. But your first and second function are most used and therefor most characteristic of you.

[Jarno]

Not much. Only red few profiles and that's it. Don't understand that Quadras
Ex. From all N's I least like and can't connect to INFJ (in MBTI), at least I think ... and we are both Delta. I know Is don't translate directly from MBTI into Socionics...

1 Ne strong / valued
2 Fi strong / valued
3 Se weak / unvalued
4 Ti weak / unvalued
5 Si weak / valued
6 Te weak / valued
7 Ni strong / unvalued
8 Fe strong / unvalued

Your quadra members have the same valued functions. Only in a different order. So you all share Ne Fi Si Te as valued functions. This means simplified, that you feel most understood and comfortable with these people.

[Chloe]

Those elements have a global meaning.

Te better than Ti is normal for IEE, so I don't see why it's confusing.

The ENFp's that I know are good organizers too. But your first and second function are most used and therefor most characteristic of you.

Yeah, but somewhere it says that 3rd and 4rd are Se and Ti, but didn't know about this "unvalued/valued" stuff, whatever that means.

1 Ne strong / valued
2 Fi strong / valued
3 Se weak / unvalued
4 Ti weak / unvalued
5 Si weak / valued
6 Te weak / valued
7 Ni strong / unvalued
8 Fe strong / unvalued

Your quadra members have the same valued functions. Only in a different order. So you all share Ne Fi Si Te as valued functions. This means simplified, that you feel most understood and comfortable with these people.

Aha, yeah, I figured out in the meantime. Well, my sister is ISTJ(ISTj) and we get along okay, we share some values but don't know is it because we grow up together and because we are both into medicine school and stuff, but we were never really friends, because we don't really "click"... so...
but I guess there's something in that.

chloe from croatia .. your writing sounds like those porno stories and biographies that you find in porno magazines.

Thanks pal. I'm glad you read our magazine. :redface:

[munenori2]

Heya Chloe!

[Mea]

Hi Chloe~

[Jarno]

Yeah, but somewhere it says that 3rd and 4rd are Se and Ti, but didn't know about this "unvalued/valued" stuff, whatever that means.

I think you've made the assumption that how further down the ladder a function's place is, the worse you are with it. But that's not the case. Look at the strong and weak in my example.

Valued means that you favor that function. But some of them are weak, so you would like help from someone else with those. Some of them are strong, those are your ego (and most used) functions which determine your behaviour.

The unvalued functions are functions that you don't find interesting. People who use those either bore you, annoy you, misunderstand you etc.