Silly Quadra Re-names
The current names sound neutral and useful, sure, but they don't tell you anything about the "vibe" of the quadra.
So, here are some more descriptive names I came up with after reading about quadra group behavior:
Alpha = Casuals
Beta = Roughnecks
Gamma = Elitists
Delta = Craftsmen
Like these names? What would you name the Quadras?
Not quite. Elitist for Gamma is way off, and the rest don't really capture the Quadras as a whole, imo.
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
Alpha - Jovials/Artisans/Lighthearteds
Beta - Champions/Industrialists
Gamma - Individualists/Systematics
Delta - Collectivists/Free spirits
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
I think these names actually take away from the quadras by only being able to describe one aspect a piece. The concept of quadras is complex enough to not be able to be captured with single adjectives. Even Tereg's descriptions there is overlap with the words used and what the quadras are about (collectivists could describe more than just delta, etc...)
yeah, I always liked the age thing too. It works pretty well both for describing them and for roughly explaining them to other people.Originally Posted by glamourama
heh, I think all of these can fit a certain type of person that is within the given quadra, but they're not really "exclusive" descriptors, or really sum up what the quadra is about. for example, I know what you mean by Gamma elitists (and the Gamma style of being elitist is different from say, the Beta style of elitism), but Gamma itself really isn't "elitist."
I like the age analogy descriptors, just in case some people haven't seen them:
Alpha = children
Beta = adolescents
Gamma = adults
Delta = elderly
@ tereg: what do you mean by Beta Industrialists? I think industrialism is more Gamma (+
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the idea of this is hilarious. What does roughnecks mean? haha. I like that I get to be a craftsman!! lol.
Maybe types of dining...
Alpha: Icecream pops at the circus
Gamma: Family get together (with a tablecloth)
Beta: Appetizers at a sparkly venue rooftop bar with a humanitarian artist's sculptures as chairs (but only because the other bar isn't open yet)
Delta: Dive bar with some chicken we snuck in (in my handbag) so it will even out w/ the expensive martini lounge we're going to in a second.
Hi! I'm an ENFP. :-)
Basically what is implied by roughnecks. It's a similar concept.@ tereg: what do you mean by Beta Industrialists? I think industrialism is more Gamma (
Blue collar working class
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
Now if you're talking about like the Industrial Revolution and like architectural and technological advancements implied by "industrialism", then I can see how that would be more Gamma.
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
I totally agree. And I totally disagree with calling Deltas "craftsmen." "Craftsman" is another name for ISTps.
I can't believe Abbie still has her asian avatar...
It's Binky bitch.
See not the unsmiling lips and icy eyes,
And hear not the silence after.
Look instead as the mime hypnotizes
And listen to the laughter.
I suppose so. I was thinking more along the lines of Freemasons and skilled workers, etc, compared to Roughnecks (unskilled group laborers).
I voted elitist on the other forum, and I am not a Gamma. Delta now reminds me of that young girl named Esther from the new Rob Zombie movie coming to theatres, which I won't see by the way.
almost
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INFj
9w1 sp/sx
haha even better then bridge
Alpha
Beta
Gamma
Delta
(Justin for Beta might be wrong)
Alpha: Kindergarten Quadra
Beta: Emo Quadra
Gamma: Consumption Quadra
Delta: Double Beta Quadra
alpha - ewoks, jawas, the cantina band
beta - The rebellion
gamma - The Empire
delta - ?????
The saddest ESFj
...
x
Alpha
Merry quadra
Alpha
Lazy quadra
Beta
BetaAggresive quadra
GammaBusiness quadra
Gamma
Delta
Delta
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
Yeah; use Brutus.(Justin for Beta might be wrong
I like it. What's the point of changing something I like? Irrationals don't seem to be able to comprehend that.I can't believe Abbie still has her asian avatar...
lol, Director Abbie is pretty amazing.
Double beta????
LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP
Alpha = air
Beta = fire
Gamma = earth
Delta = water
LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP
Alpha = yellow
Beta = red
Delta = blue
Gamma = ? someone help here
LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP
Elitists works better for Beta/Delta than for Gamma
Sure, for Alpha
Sure, for Beta
Individualists... yes in the more personal and moral sense, systematics... not feeling this one.
Yeah Delta can be pretty collectivistic (just look at this forum), and free spirit is an okay one too (shows a dualistic quality to aristocratic quadras in general)
Industrialism does work well for Beta and slightly less well for Delta. The event has aristocratic connotations, even if it actually only evens hierarchies over-all.
Yes totally, but this is just for shits and giggles.
Alpha... eh.
Gamma... eh.
Beta... mebbe
Delta... lol sure!
Well warrior-librarian, supposedly Water is Gamma's element and Earth is Delta's although it'd make more sense due to quadra conflict and element oppositions.
Just going on sheer vibes alone in no particular order:
Alpha: Sky Blue, sapphire, yellow, green,
Beta: Cyan, White, Red, gold
Gamma: Black, silver, opaque, grey (mostly, no colors came to mind)
Delta: Bronze, brown, blue, dark green
The end is nigh
Because they're twice as emo as Beta.
Oh if we're doing color association with quadras, I'd go
Alpha: yellow, orange, pink, neon
Beta: black, white, ash
Gamma: green, red
Delta: tan, bay, chestnut, nutbrown, almond, russet, roan, sorrel, sepia, tawny, ochre, puce, terra-cotta, beige, taupe, ecru, dust, drab, dun, henna, khaki, umber, light brown, auburn, soil, brown... (Edit: you know... neutral colors)
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
hah i thought sepia for Delta too.
Also I noticed that your opposing quadra is black, white, and ash and mine is black, silver, opaque, and grey.
Perhaps the opposing quadra gives us such dull vibes?
The end is nigh
It's not that I think they're dull.
The ash color to me has more of a gritty, mettlesome characteristic to me rather than lack of color or life. Like dirt and oil stains or something (I was trying to think of a color that captures the essence of an industrial worker). The black and white are pretty much what they imply: a hard, clear, distinct, no-middle-ground color.
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
Alpha: Socialists
Beta: Communists
Gamma: Capitalists
Delta: Environmentalists
Places:
Alpha:
Beta:
Lol, how appropriate...
Gamma: ?
Delta:
Beta 666. I don't think I'm going to watch that video.
Compass:
.\ G /.
D X A
./ B \.
Uhg I dislike these stereotypes quite alot
Actual Quadra political movements:
Original Socialist movement: Delta (Religious/nostalgic throwback to feudal-aristocratic times)
Marxian Communism: Alpha (Marx was Ne INTj, hailed it as "scientific socialism")
Communism as practiced: Beta (I can't think of an exception)
Early 20th century fascism: Beta
New-deal/Keynesian capitalism: Delta
Christian Fundamentalist conservatism: Delta-Alpha
Contemporary socialism: Alpha-Delta
"Freedom" movements:
Objectivism: Primarily Beta, flavored as Beta
20th century libertarianism: Gamma
Contemporary libertarianism/minarchism: Gamma-Delta
Collectivist anarchism: Alpha-Delta
Anarcho-capitalism (Austrian school): Gamma
Neo-Mutualism/Agorism: Alpha
The end is nigh
Seasons:
Alpha: Spring
Beta: Summer
Gamma: Autumn
Delta: Winter
Part of Day:
Alpha : 12:00 am (Late night - Early morning [Death, birth, childhood])
Beta : 6:00 am (Morning [Adolescence])
Gamma : 12:00 pm (Afternoon [Adulthood])
Delta : 6:00 pm (Evening [Seniority])
The end is nigh
No. I'm actually in favor of destroying the Earth. The sooner it's uninhabitable, the sooner God will give us a new one.
I agree.
You've been a Delta for too long.
Alpha: Hobbits
Beta: Rohan
Gamma: Minas Tirith
Delta: Elves?
The saddest ESFj
...
alpha: dick sucking
beta: ass fucking
gamma: pussy licking
delta: cuddling
Lol, I was just kidding with that list... (I'm more of an environmentalist). And I don't think that Alphas are socialists. But I do think that socialism/communism is more Beta. And... I'd say that Karl Marx was more of a Beta.
I mean, these are some of the questions that are answered by him, and his interests sound more Beta, with a focus on Se, and Ni.
Anyway, I don't think that political beliefs are really type/quadra-related.
lol...
+2
although I'm not sure that abbie was necessarily saying the we should destroy the Earth. If she was, I have to admit that she is one of type of Christians who, imo, are very much missing the point on that matter and frankly scare the bejesus out of me because of the unnecesary suffering that sort of belief would cause. In my opinion, the destruction or Earth is up to God, not us.
just to be clear, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth Abbie. I'm just explaining the sorts of Christians who scare me and my own look at that topic.
/offtopic
Last edited by bg; 06-11-2009 at 03:23 PM.
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