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    The current names sound neutral and useful, sure, but they don't tell you anything about the "vibe" of the quadra.

    So, here are some more descriptive names I came up with after reading about quadra group behavior:

    Alpha = Casuals
    Beta = Roughnecks
    Gamma = Elitists
    Delta = Craftsmen

    Like these names? What would you name the Quadras?

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    Not quite. Elitist for Gamma is way off, and the rest don't really capture the Quadras as a whole, imo.
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    Alpha - Jovials/Artisans/Lighthearteds
    Beta - Champions/Industrialists
    Gamma - Individualists/Systematics
    Delta - Collectivists/Free spirits
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    I think these names actually take away from the quadras by only being able to describe one aspect a piece. The concept of quadras is complex enough to not be able to be captured with single adjectives. Even Tereg's descriptions there is overlap with the words used and what the quadras are about (collectivists could describe more than just delta, etc...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    heh, I think all of these can fit a certain type of person that is within the given quadra, but they're not really "exclusive" descriptors, or really sum up what the quadra is about. for example, I know what you mean by Gamma elitists (and the Gamma style of being elitist is different from say, the Beta style of elitism), but Gamma itself really isn't "elitist."

    I like the age analogy descriptors, just in case some people haven't seen them:

    Alpha = children
    Beta = adolescents
    Gamma = adults
    Delta = elderly

    @ tereg: what do you mean by Beta Industrialists? I think industrialism is more Gamma ( + )
    yeah, I always liked the age thing too. It works pretty well both for describing them and for roughly explaining them to other people.

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    the idea of this is hilarious. What does roughnecks mean? haha. I like that I get to be a craftsman!! lol.

    Maybe types of dining...

    Alpha: Icecream pops at the circus
    Gamma: Family get together (with a tablecloth)
    Beta: Appetizers at a sparkly venue rooftop bar with a humanitarian artist's sculptures as chairs (but only because the other bar isn't open yet)
    Delta: Dive bar with some chicken we snuck in (in my handbag) so it will even out w/ the expensive martini lounge we're going to in a second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    @ tereg: what do you mean by Beta Industrialists? I think industrialism is more Gamma ( + )
    Basically what is implied by roughnecks. It's a similar concept.



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    Now if you're talking about like the Industrial Revolution and like architectural and technological advancements implied by "industrialism", then I can see how that would be more Gamma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    Alpha = children
    Beta = adolescents
    Gamma = adults
    Delta = elderly
    I totally agree. And I totally disagree with calling Deltas "craftsmen." "Craftsman" is another name for ISTps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    I totally agree. And I totally disagree with calling Deltas "craftsmen." "Craftsman" is another name for ISTps.
    I suppose so. I was thinking more along the lines of Freemasons and skilled workers, etc, compared to Roughnecks (unskilled group laborers).

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    I voted elitist on the other forum, and I am not a Gamma. Delta now reminds me of that young girl named Esther from the new Rob Zombie movie coming to theatres, which I won't see by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    Alpha- Candy Land Quadra

    Beta- Axis and Allies Quadra

    Gamma- Monopoly Quadra

    Delta- Bridge Quadra
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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    Alpha- Candy Land Quadra

    Beta- Axis and Allies Quadra

    Gamma- Monopoly Quadra

    Delta- Quadra
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    haha even better then bridge

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    Alpha



    Beta



    Gamma



    Delta



    (Justin for Beta might be wrong )

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    Alpha: Kindergarten Quadra
    Beta: Emo Quadra
    Gamma: Consumption Quadra
    Delta: Double Beta Quadra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat View Post
    (Justin for Beta might be wrong )
    Yeah; use Brutus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Binky View Post
    I can't believe Abbie still has her asian avatar...
    I like it. What's the point of changing something I like? Irrationals don't seem to be able to comprehend that.

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    lol, Director Abbie is pretty amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    Alpha: Kindergarten Quadra
    Beta: Emo Quadra
    Gamma: Consumption Quadra
    Delta: Double Beta Quadra
    Double beta????
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    Alpha = air
    Beta = fire
    Gamma = earth
    Delta = water
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    Alpha = yellow
    Beta = red
    Delta = blue
    Gamma = ? someone help here
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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    The current names sound neutral and useful, sure, but they don't tell you anything about the "vibe" of the quadra.

    So, here are some more descriptive names I came up with after reading about quadra group behavior:

    Alpha = Casuals
    Beta = Roughnecks
    Gamma = Elitists
    Delta = Craftsmen

    Like these names? What would you name the Quadras?
    Elitists works better for Beta/Delta than for Gamma

    Quote Originally Posted by tereg View Post
    Alpha - Jovials/Artisans/Lighthearteds
    Beta - Champions/Industrialists
    Gamma - Individualists/Systematics
    Delta - Collectivists/Free spirits
    Sure, for Alpha
    Sure, for Beta
    Individualists... yes in the more personal and moral sense, systematics... not feeling this one.
    Yeah Delta can be pretty collectivistic (just look at this forum), and free spirit is an okay one too (shows a dualistic quality to aristocratic quadras in general)

    Industrialism does work well for Beta and slightly less well for Delta. The event has aristocratic connotations, even if it actually only evens hierarchies over-all.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat View Post
    I think these names actually take away from the quadras by only being able to describe one aspect a piece. The concept of quadras is complex enough to not be able to be captured with single adjectives. Even Tereg's descriptions there is overlap with the words used and what the quadras are about (collectivists could describe more than just delta, etc...)
    Yes totally, but this is just for shits and giggles.

    Quote Originally Posted by jewels View Post
    the idea of this is hilarious. What does roughnecks mean? haha. I like that I get to be a craftsman!! lol.

    Maybe types of dining...

    Alpha: Icecream pops at the circus
    Gamma: Family get together (with a tablecloth)
    Beta: Appetizers at a sparkly venue rooftop bar with a humanitarian artist's sculptures as chairs (but only because the other bar isn't open yet)
    Delta: Dive bar with some chicken we snuck in (in my handbag) so it will even out w/ the expensive martini lounge we're going to in a second.
    Alpha... eh.
    Gamma... eh.
    Beta... mebbe
    Delta... lol sure!

    Quote Originally Posted by warrior-librarian View Post
    Alpha = air
    Beta = fire
    Gamma = earth
    Delta = water
    Well warrior-librarian, supposedly Water is Gamma's element and Earth is Delta's although it'd make more sense due to quadra conflict and element oppositions.

    Quote Originally Posted by warrior-librarian View Post
    Alpha = yellow
    Beta = red
    Delta = blue
    Gamma = ? someone help here
    Just going on sheer vibes alone in no particular order:

    Alpha: Sky Blue, sapphire, yellow, green,
    Beta: Cyan, White, Red, gold
    Gamma: Black, silver, opaque, grey (mostly, no colors came to mind)
    Delta: Bronze, brown, blue, dark green
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    Quote Originally Posted by warrior-librarian View Post
    Double beta????
    Because they're twice as emo as Beta.

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    Oh if we're doing color association with quadras, I'd go

    Alpha: yellow, orange, pink, neon
    Beta: black, white, ash
    Gamma: green, red
    Delta: tan, bay, chestnut, nutbrown, almond, russet, roan, sorrel, sepia, tawny, ochre, puce, terra-cotta, beige, taupe, ecru, dust, drab, dun, henna, khaki, umber, light brown, auburn, soil, brown... (Edit: you know... neutral colors)
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    hah i thought sepia for Delta too.

    Also I noticed that your opposing quadra is black, white, and ash and mine is black, silver, opaque, and grey.

    Perhaps the opposing quadra gives us such dull vibes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    hah i thought sepia for Delta too.

    Also I noticed that your opposing quadra is black, white, and ash and mine is black, silver, opaque, and grey.

    Perhaps the opposing quadra gives us such dull vibes?
    It's not that I think they're dull.

    The ash color to me has more of a gritty, mettlesome characteristic to me rather than lack of color or life. Like dirt and oil stains or something (I was trying to think of a color that captures the essence of an industrial worker). The black and white are pretty much what they imply: a hard, clear, distinct, no-middle-ground color.
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    Alpha: Socialists
    Beta: Communists
    Gamma: Capitalists
    Delta: Environmentalists



    Places:

    Alpha:
    Beta:

    Lol, how appropriate...

    Gamma: ?

    Delta:
    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Stromberg
    Let's stop using this outdated measure - which has about as much scientific validity as your astrological sign.

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    Beta 666. I don't think I'm going to watch that video.

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    Compass:

    .\ G /.
    D X A
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Alpha: Socialists
    Beta: Communists
    Gamma: Capitalists
    Delta: Environmentalists

    Uhg I dislike these stereotypes quite alot

    Actual Quadra political movements:

    Original Socialist movement: Delta (Religious/nostalgic throwback to feudal-aristocratic times)

    Marxian Communism: Alpha (Marx was Ne INTj, hailed it as "scientific socialism")

    Communism as practiced: Beta (I can't think of an exception)

    Early 20th century fascism: Beta

    New-deal/Keynesian capitalism: Delta

    Christian Fundamentalist conservatism: Delta-Alpha

    Contemporary socialism: Alpha-Delta


    "Freedom" movements:

    Objectivism: Primarily Beta, flavored as Beta

    20th century libertarianism: Gamma

    Contemporary libertarianism/minarchism: Gamma-Delta

    Collectivist anarchism: Alpha-Delta

    Anarcho-capitalism (Austrian school): Gamma

    Neo-Mutualism/Agorism: Alpha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    In Music:
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ncidences.html


    In Maths:
    Alpha : Addition
    Beta : Multiplication
    Gamma : Subtraction
    Delta : Division

    Seasons:
    Alpha : Summer
    Beta : Spring
    Gamma : Winter
    Delta : Autumn

    Part of Day:
    Alpha : Morning
    Beta : Night
    Gamma : Evening
    Delta : Day

    In Matter:
    Alpha : Gas
    Beta : Plasma
    Gamma : Liquid
    Delta : Solid

    Playing cards:
    Alpha : Hearts
    Beta : Spades
    Gamma : Clubs
    Delta : Diamonds

    Seasons:
    Alpha: Spring
    Beta: Summer
    Gamma: Autumn
    Delta: Winter

    Part of Day:
    Alpha : 12:00 am (Late night - Early morning [Death, birth, childhood])
    Beta : 6:00 am (Morning [Adolescence])
    Gamma : 12:00 pm (Afternoon [Adulthood])
    Delta : 6:00 pm (Evening [Seniority])
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Alpha: Socialists
    Beta: Communists
    Gamma: Capitalists
    Delta: Environmentalists
    No. I'm actually in favor of destroying the Earth. The sooner it's uninhabitable, the sooner God will give us a new one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    In Maths:
    Alpha : Addition
    Beta : Multiplication
    Gamma : Subtraction
    Delta : Division

    Seasons:
    Alpha : Summer
    Beta : Spring
    Gamma : Winter
    Delta : Autumn

    Part of Day:
    Alpha : Morning
    Beta : Night
    Gamma : Evening
    Delta : Day

    In Matter:
    Alpha : Gas
    Beta : Plasma
    Gamma : Liquid
    Delta : Solid

    Playing cards:
    Alpha : Hearts
    Beta : Spades
    Gamma : Clubs
    Delta : Diamonds
    I agree.

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    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    No. I'm actually in favor of destroying the Earth. The sooner it's uninhabitable, the sooner God will give us a new one.
    You've been a Delta for too long.

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    Gamma: Minas Tirith
    Delta: Elves?
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    Lol, I was just kidding with that list... (I'm more of an environmentalist). And I don't think that Alphas are socialists. But I do think that socialism/communism is more Beta. And... I'd say that Karl Marx was more of a Beta.

    I mean, these are some of the questions that are answered by him, and his interests sound more Beta, with a focus on Se, and Ni.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl Marx
    Your favourite virtue ... Simplicity
    Your favourite virtue in man ... Strength
    Your favourite virtue in woman ... Weakness
    Your chief characteristic ... Singleness of purpose
    Your idea of happiness ... To fight
    Your idea of misery ... Submission
    The vice you excuse most ... Gullibility
    The vice you detest most ... Servility
    Your aversion ... Martin Tupper
    Favourite occupation ... Book-worming
    Favourite poet ... Shakespeare, Aeschylus, Goethe
    Favourite prose-writer ... Diderot
    Favourite hero ... Spartacus, Kepler
    Favourite heroine ... Gretchen [Heroine of Goethe's Faust]
    Favourite flower ... Daphne
    Favourite colour ... Red
    Favourite name ... Laura, Jenny
    Favourite dish ... Fish
    Favourite maxim ... Nihil humani a me alienum puto [Nothing human is alien to me]
    Favourite motto ... De omnibus dubitandum [Everything must be doubted].

    * Marx's replies to a set of questions given to him by his daughters Jenny and Laura in 1865
    Anyway, I don't think that political beliefs are really type/quadra-related.

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    delta: cuddling
    lol...
    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Stromberg
    Let's stop using this outdated measure - which has about as much scientific validity as your astrological sign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isha View Post
    Assuming that destroying the Earth will in fact bring about Armageddon (it might not, as far as I understand it its only clear that Armageddon will destroy the Earth -- eventually -- and it is said nowhere that they are mutually dependent). If God is not ready for Armageddon he might just wait around, and then we've cause our premature death in vain.
    +2

    although I'm not sure that abbie was necessarily saying the we should destroy the Earth. If she was, I have to admit that she is one of type of Christians who, imo, are very much missing the point on that matter and frankly scare the bejesus out of me because of the unnecesary suffering that sort of belief would cause. In my opinion, the destruction or Earth is up to God, not us.

    just to be clear, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth Abbie. I'm just explaining the sorts of Christians who scare me and my own look at that topic.

    /offtopic
    Last edited by bg; 06-11-2009 at 04:23 PM.

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