View Poll Results: What dichotomy(s) are the same or different in both of your types?

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  • difference in Introversion/Extraversion

    7 13.73%
  • difference in Intuitive/Sensing

    4 7.84%
  • difference in Thinking/Feeling

    7 13.73%
  • difference in Judging/Perceiving

    11 21.57%
  • same in Introversion/Extraversion

    39 76.47%
  • same in Intuitive/Sensing

    40 78.43%
  • same in Thinking/Feeling

    37 72.55%
  • same in Judging/Perceiving

    35 68.63%
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    Follow my lead by typing your MBTI type and socionics type like the following, and try not to have extra conversation here unless it's directly about your MBTI relating to your socionics type.

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    INTJ : LII

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    ENFP/ENFp

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    Changes depending on mood.

    So, XXFP : SEI

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    ENFj: EIE
    (D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)

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    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    ENFP & ILE
    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    INTJ : LII
    This typing fits you better, than your previous self-typing as NiTe.

    INTP : NiTe

    INTP is based on tests. Although I usually score only just slightly in favor P dichotomy. On the dichotomic/behavioural descriptions I'm INTP. On the functional descriptions I'm half-INTJ half-INTP.
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    INTp

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    INTP/IEI

    Approximate %s:
    E/I: 45/55
    N/S: 85/15
    F/T: 90/10
    J/P: 10/90


    [Edit: Using the test Mimosa linked to below, I'm an INTJ, with preference strengths
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    Almost absolutely certain of IEI.
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    Nobody here...besides me, seems to know what SLE is except for maybe Maritsa.

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    I get INTX, but if I had to settle with one it would be INTP for the irrationality and cognitive functional order (TiNe...).
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    I get INFP in MBTI, and ... something in Socionics (IEE, EII, SEI, IEI all plausible)
    INFj

    9w1 sp/sx

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    I score ISTP on MBTI and Kiersey tests, and SLI on socionics tests.

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    MBTI: INTP most of the time. Rarely INTJ.

    Socionics: INTp, INTj, ISTp, ISTj.

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    ISTP:SLI
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    ENFP on mbti

    undecided on socionics.
    "If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann

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    INTJ/LII

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    ENFP and ENFj

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    In MBTI I test as INTJ most of the time.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    MBTT - INTP
    Socionics - ILE > ILI > IEE > IEI
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    ENTP:EIE

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    MBTI: I've scored ENFP, ENTP, ESTP, ESFP, ISFP, ISTP, & ISTJ
    Socionics: ESI
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    INTP - INTj

    I don't identify with "definite and self-confident, ruthless implementor of plans" and don't see how any Si/Ne valuing type ever could.

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    MBTI: mostly INFP
    socionics: ISFp
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    The results of the poll show that the correlation is evident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    The results of the poll show that the correlation is evident.
    Not really..11 of the 20 people (out of the total of 28) who said that they were the same on the Thinking/Feeling axis could have said they were different on one of the other three dichotomies...also, the difference/same subtotals don't add up to 28...which means in addition there are some people who are unsure if they score the same on a particular dichotomy.

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    The poll asks about correspondences in 4 dichotomies.

    ~75% of posters reported correspondence in at least one of those 4.

    As far as the results go, statistically, there is no correlation whatsoever.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Plus, what about the people who are basing their typing off previous experiences with MBTI, who actually aren't typing themselves accurately?

    Look at this:

    Two of my friends:

    INTJ : ESTp
    INxP : ESTj

    Yep.
    That's what I'd like to call socionics at the end of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    well you're probably not going to infer a 1:1 correlation. but if there was "no correlation", wouldn't one see convergences around (or slightly below because of nonresponses) 50%? the poll accounts for both "correspondence" and "noncorrespondence".
    If there was no correlation whatsoever, then you'd expect 100% of people to vote "difference" for each dichotomy, and 0% to vote "same".

    If everybody identified in both systems with three out of four dichotomies, you'd get on average 75% of people voting "same" for each dichotomy, while having no apparent 1:1 correlation between the two systems (i.e. people having the 'same' type in both).

    The average for people voting "same" is about 77%...and this does not take into account people who voted for neither "difference" or "same" for a particular dichotomy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    If there was no correlation whatsoever, then you'd expect 100% of people to vote "difference" for each dichotomy, and 0% to vote "same".
    That would be negative correlation. That is different from "no correlation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    ~75% of posters reported correspondence in at least one of those 4.

    As far as the results go, statistically, there is no correlation whatsoever.
    Your assumption in incorrect. ~50% means no correlation.

    There are multiple options possible.

    So in this actual case it's even possible that ~75% of the posters reported correspondence to all of the 4 dichotomies.

    I wonder what numbers you would like to see to call it a correlation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    That would be negative correlation. That is different from "no correlation".
    I don't believe you can have negative correlation in this case. You could if you were comparing two linear variables such as weight and height, but not if you were asking if there was a correlation between two systems (a 'yes' or 'no' answer)...in which case, it would go from a correlation of 0 to 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    I don't believe you can have negative correlation in this case. You could if you were comparing two linear variables such as weight and height, but not if you were asking if there was a correlation between two systems...in which case, it would go from a correlation of 0 to 100%.
    What you call CORRELATION inhere is actually CORRESPONDENCE.
    So, 1:1 positive correlation => 100% correspondence.
    1:1 negative correlation => 0% correspondence.
    No correlation => 50% correspondence.

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    Oh I see. But if 50% of people said there was a 1:1 correlation between their socionics type and their MBTI type, and 50% said there wasn't, it wouldn't mean that there was no correlation whatsoever between the two systems, would it? INTJs and INTps share at least some similarities for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    Oh I see. But if 50% of people said there was a 1:1 correlation between their socionics type and their MBTI type, and 50% said there wasn't, it wouldn't mean that there was no correlation whatsoever between the two systems, would it? INTJs and INTps share at least some similarities for example.
    If 50% of people said there was a 1:1 correlation between their socionics type and their MBTI type, and 50% said there wasn't, given that types are equally distributed(are they?), it would mean that there is a pretty strong correlation between the two systems. Why is that so? Well, we have 16 types, if equally distributed - than every type - 6.25% of socion. If there is no correlation between the two than one would expect for example that all MBTI ESTPs and other types would be approximatelly equally distributed along the socionics types(that meaninig 6.25% of MBTI ESTPs would be socionics ESTps, ILIs, IEIs etc.). But if 50% of ESTPs are SLEs, than, that's a good one correlation.

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    So...if 21 people voted that they have the same Thinking/Feeling dichotomy...there are 11 votes for a difference in the I/E, I/S, and J/P dichotomies. In addition, because it is known that 28 people voted, it can be calculated how many votes were not used because people weren't sure if one of the dichotomies was the same or different. For the I/E, I/S, and J/P dichotomies, this is 6 votes.

    This could mean that of the 21 people who voted that they have the same Thinking/Feeling dichotomy in both systems, 17 of them could be different in one other dichotomy, or be uncertain. 4/21 = 19%, or 14% of the people who took part.

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    I keep wondering what numbers people would like to see, before they call this a correlation.

    Remarks like 'there's no correlation at all' seem a bit to unjustifitied.

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    I'm certain that atleast a few voted the same type for MBTI and socionics because they don't know the difference. This number could definitely be bigger.

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    This kind of thing makes me think that maybe I am an ESTP in MBTI. It's plausible. I'm more of an ESTP than I am an ESTJ. It's just that I think ENTJ > ESTP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    It's just that I think ENTJ > ESTP.
    Well yeah. MBTI Te is in some ways described similarly to .

    I hate when people say MBTI Ne is socionics Ne. "No, because MBTI is a different theory than socionics. Two interpretations of Jung that look at two different elements of personality and have two different sets of dichotomies, that, get this, used one set of 16 types and one set of 8 letters." Bad call. They're the same people who think socionics P is MBTI P, J for J, which completely contradicts their previous statement. Just die already.

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