Intellect in SLE-Se and SLE-Ti (ESTp)
Do you think SLE-Ti is more intellectual than SLE-Se? That is, do you think Ti subtypes read more, are more open to intellectual pursuits and are more likely to take on a career which requires an intellectual capacity (e.g. law) than Se subtypes?
Or do you think it's entirely unrelated to subtype, and that all SLEs can either be thick as pig shit or incredibly intelligent?
Intellect isn't related to information metabolism or subtypes, dumbass.
I don't divide subtypes so sharply or completely to be able to say that one is more prone to anything than another for the most part. It's like something that goes backwards, but can't go forwards. So an SLE obsessed with law, you could say "that's because you're the Ti subtype" (when it's one thing among many that points to "Ti subtype"). But if you try to go the other way and say "is law obsession a Ti subtype thing" I don't think it works very well.
Last edited by marooned; 05-06-2009 at 02:19 PM.
Everybody knows SLE's are lowbrow brutes with small, mean piercing eyes and overlarge muscles they use to coerce and beat sweet innocent people into a pulp with if others don't do as they say. Their idea of "intellect" is to muse which spot hurts the most when they apply the taser to bend people to their will...
>_O
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If your sea chart does not match reality, go with reality (Old mariner saying)
I thought those were LSEs.Originally Posted by Wittmont
LOL @ the last question!!!
You know, it's strange... The really smart SLEs I know are all Ti subtype... The Se subtype ones I know are all just typical dudes you see at the gym... Young, dumb, and full of... steroids
Them too eh? O_<
This socionics stuff is too easy.
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If your sea chart does not match reality, go with reality (Old mariner saying)
Let's see... the SLE-Ti male I know is smart however he doesn't like to do too well on things like standardized tests. He even admitted this to me once. Because he doesn't want to upset the grading curve or get people mad at him for doing TOO well. LOL It's like he wants to do well enough to get by (and to know what he's doing in his job, he's a senior vice president of a financial firm) but the academic part of it isn't that important to him. In fact, he's actually more of a salesperson, bringing in the clients and then leaving the investing part to his partner. (but he's reeeeeeally good at what he does)
I know a female SLE-Se who runs her own business. She's also very smart but it's more of a street-smart kinda thing. She does read some when she has extra time, but her pursuits are all related to making money with her art. And I think she gets antsy sitting still for too long.
Another female SLE I know (I think Ti) has a masters degree in business and started up her own business with some other women. She seems to be fully enmeshed in her career. She and the first SLE-Ti male I mentioned both got their undergrad degrees in accounting.
In none of these three persons do I see an extreme degree of interest in any sort of intellectual pursuits. They're very goal-oriented but the goals have nothing to do with learning for the sake of learning. Everything they do leads them to a goal they can pin down. I know the first SLE-Ti enjoys reading for pleasure and occasionally self-helpBut otherwise I think true intellectual pursuits are not his thing.
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That's basically my stand on life.In none of these three persons do I see an extreme degree of interest in any sort of intellectual pursuits. They're very goal-oriented but the goals have nothing to do with learning for the sake of learning. Everything they do leads them to a goal they can pin down. I know the first SLE-Ti enjoys reading for pleasure and occasionally self-help
I'm relatively sure i am Ti subtype and I am a Theatre major and aspiring actor.
...Would you like more coffee?
Easy Day
Is intellectuality even type related?
has some correlation with logic and intuition
lol this thread. Ive known very smart, intelligent SLE-Se
In theory, -Ti subtype is most likely to be inclined at having a deep interest towards managerial, strategy, math, etc.
However, this mainly is because that they are eager to be in touch with their contact rather than inert elements.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel: "The history of the world is none other than the progress of the consciousness of freedom."
In terms of classic IQ shit, yes I think the Ti subtype is smarter. Though, you can be smarter in stealing cars and beating people, so...
Trump's Se was smart enough for him to become the president of the USA, with little Ti logic
(I type him SLE-Se)
Let's say he stole the president's seat. Does that make sense? He is smart, he just isn't smart in a book smart way. That's what I was talking about.
Same.
Left is Ti-subtype, right is Se-subtype
Producing subtypes in general are usually more well-rounded
I dated both
I like both SLEs
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I don't think he really stole it for his first term. He did try for the second term, yea.
I've known book smart SLE-Se too (the one I referred to in my earlier post).
Nah, I don't mean that he literally stole the election. Like if I stole a young girl's heart, it doesn't mean that I ripped it out and took it to my mancave.
Oh yeah, this one SLE journalist star could be an SLE-Se, so yeah, it's possible. It's just that the Ti subtype is more likely to be more intellectual.
I mean, I didn't mean it literally either. I still do not think he stole it when he became president. Just my opinion from the facts available to me. Feel free to share facts with me that point to your claim instead
I think you might be surprised if you actually measured the likelihood of that comparing a lot of examples of SLE-Se and SLE-Ti people. Might turn out the difference is not that big. Because it depends on IQ a lot, also upbringing, value system etc....Oh yeah, this one SLE journalist star could be an SLE-Se, so yeah, it's possible. It's just that the Ti subtype is more likely to be more intellectual.
Also the OP mixed up affinity for intellectual pursuits with intelligence itself (a.k.a. IQ). Doesn't help when discussing this, lol
He did not steal it. He was elected. I was following his campaign in 2015, lol.
Oh yes, sure, it's just a small percentage. But type and subtype does influence the life of a man.I think you might be surprised if you actually measured the likelihood of that comparing a lot of examples of SLE-Se and SLE-Ti people. Might turn out the difference is not that big. Because it depends on IQ a lot, also upbringing, value system etc....
Also the OP mixed up affinity for intellectual pursuits with intelligence itself (a.k.a. IQ). Doesn't help when discussing this, lol
OK so you referred to his second attempt to get elected.
MaybeOh yes, sure, it's just a small percentage. But type and subtype does influence the life of a man.
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