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    Default Questions on :Se:, :Si:

    Are all ESTps and ESFps physically strong? Are there skinny, weak ES*ps?

    Which subtypes are stronger? or /?

    Is mental endurance / ambition / desire of self-development related to ?

    What is rejecting comfort/overindulgence from a Socionics POV?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Are all ESTps and ESFps physically strong? Are there skinny, weak ES*ps?
    Se leading and physical strength are completely independent of one another. Se adept individuals may be more inclined to buff themselves up at the gym or whatever, since they are most aware of their physical capacity, but they are by no means necessarily physically strong. (FTR, other types, such as EIE, might be inclined to work out at the gym in order to make up for a lack of Se; that is, they buff themselves up to make themselves look stronger. It is less likely that a Se competent individual who was not physically tough would see any need to do this; they are more likely to work out if they have an aim to achieve e.g. get a shag, be able to carry more weight because they are hikers etc. They would not just work out for the sake of it.)

    Which subtypes are stronger? or /?
    Irrelevant.

    Is mental endurance / ambition / desire of self-development related to ?
    This is definitely different, since it is cognitively rather than physically related. Mental endurance is unlikely to be related to a particular function, although individuals with strong, valued Se are likely to endure more based on their willpower. Ambition is of a similar nature. Self-development could be related to any function, since each type will want to develop themselves in different ways.

    What is rejecting comfort/overindulgence from a Socionics POV?
    Rejecting comfort, for whatever reason, is certainly Si devaluing. As for overindulgence... not sure. Probably the same, although there are plenty of Se valuers who overindulge. Like me, for instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Rejecting comfort, for whatever reason, is certainly Si devaluing. As for overindulgence... not sure. Probably the same, although there are plenty of Se valuers who overindulge. Like me, for instance.
    +1

    The LSEs I know all go in for the whole RIGOROUS EXERCISE crap.

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    I realised that what I said didn't actually make complete sense.

    It should read: "Rejecting comfort, for whatever reason, is certainly Si devaluing. As for overindulgence... not sure. Probably the same;, although there are plenty of Se valuers who overindulge. Like me, for instance."
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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