ollobollo - perfect example.
ollobollo - perfect example.
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Nothing like having a fake SLE to point this out to us.
ollobollo is the man and has a video somewhere in the last few pages of Jessica129's "video" thread, for those interested.
Wait, I thought SLI's didn't exist on this forum?
"Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..."
- Voltaire
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
Easy parkywarky, don't get too offended. You might start inadvertently giving me credit for my truths.
Actually I think it's pretty funny deliberately answering every question posed.
I teach everyone everything.Say hi to niffweed and tell him to teach you how to think for yourself.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
OK so I get DeAnte, obviously. Unless he's putting an a big act, I can't imagine he's actually SLI. He could just be having fun and being like that for play, but he does really seem to have this complicated Ti-based system.
And I get Luis. He's on my list of forum favorites, but he is so warm and charming, and those traits aren't typical of SLIs. He could be SLI, but that points to SEI to me.
I don't have a strong opinion, but I guess I'm at least not bothered by Winterpark's self typing.
I'm not that into typing other people unless something happens that gives me a strong feeling. My Ne gets in the way and I think, "Maybe this type, and maybe this type, and he could be this type, and this looks like this type" etc. I have a hard time focusing. And I do agree with A.A. that sometimes LSI seems to be thrown out because people simply don't like someone. I haven't liked at least the way DeAnte has been presenting himself lately, and I have worried that I might be thinking he's LSI simply because of that. Also, there's this "Classical Socionics vs. Other Socionics" political stuff going on that I think is distracting people. But even if I ignore all of that and think that he might just be having some fun, his strong valuing of that VI system still makes me think LSI. But I can't say I'm sure, because I'm never sure of anything - I always see that other things are possibly true as well.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
In this case, "standing up for what they believe" is akin to standing up for a "belief" that the Pope is Zoroastrian.
In other words, I know they "believe" it--but they're still wrong--in this case, in terms of Socionics, which is what we're discussing here, (Model A Socionics.)
I wish you'd take your non-socionics stuff (Steve-onics--Ashton, in his wisdom, has distanced himself from the nutty typings, e.g. Christian Bale = ENTp and Dan Cook = ENFp...) to the forum provided for it, i.e. other typologies.
Cyclops is SLI... I think Luis very well may be too... Winterpark I believe to be LSI... Same with DeAnte... And Jessica129.
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That is one other possibility. Also, if he is my dual, I might find him warm and charming for that reason instead of creative Fe. But I do find him warm and charming in the way I find SEIs charming IRL. Like I said, though, there are other things that could be going on so I do not rule out SLI.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Good.
I agree.And I get Luis. He's on my list of forum favorites, but he is so warm and charming, and those traits aren't typical of SLIs. He could be SLI, but that points to SEI to me.
Maybe, but in the case of DeAnte, I don't dislike him. I just think he's misguided.And I do agree with A.A. that sometimes LSI seems to be thrown out because people simply don't like someone.
Unlikely. Those kinds of traits aren't the kinds of traits that would be due to subtype. That's a whole other type.
I remember her saying the only film she cried in was Glory. I watched it last weekend, and I thought "there is no way an SLI would be affected by this film. At all". The director, Ed Zwick, is probably EIE.
By mistyping Luis as anything other than SLI-Si, Ezra's stupidity has truly reached it's peak.
JuJu's wikisocion userlist, which includes myself, strrrng, Jessica129, Allie, Jimbean, and Winterpark as each other's identical and dualz of ******, is so laughably lacking in merit that it practically pwns itself.
I think it's time you and I went and got this out of the way. If you're interpreting the inclusion of benchmarks, gender, and subtype classifications in my VI Guides as some sort of elaborate based system, might I suggest that just because something looks "complicated" or resembles a "system" at face value does not necessarily indicate that it is intrinsically related to ? Might I also add that subjective judgements, efficiency within systems, and noting correctness/logic from incorrectness/illogic are just as much the realm of and as they are , meaning the mere presence of such examples are not automatically indicative of nor do they preclude the others?
Any and all "categorizations" involved were merely the result of my inclination to give the most thorough analysis possible (Model A - , or at least what I have observed many on this forum attributing to Model A Te-cre) in the form of an aesthetically pleasing format (Model A - ).
Take JuJu's "video guide" for example. It's shit. Sloppily put together and not at all concerned about whether not some 23 yr old LSE-Si female is going to relate to or "see" herself in a video of a tired, old Bob Dole, etc. Our differences of opinion in our respective approach to socionics/VI notwithstanding, the basic idea of my guide's format was to avoid creating a resource of such limited potential and utility.
Also, if you observe our interaction in the IEE VI Guide thread, all it took was a little + from look.to.the.sky (to which I was highly responsive) for me to go into a step by step explaination of the methods which brought me to my conclusions, in which I even outright deny the existence and application of some based cohesive structure, though I am sure you and I have different ideas on how certain functions actually manifest.
This is most likely the case IMO. I don't know if you're into enneagram at all, but most SLIs tend to be 9s. I'm a 5w6, which I imagine can, in many cases, create an impression of vast difference online - if comparing to other SLIs - than it would in person. Age may also be coming into play.
Fwiw, for as long as I've been reading this site, you've always been one of my favorite members here and had we initially met IRL, I'm about 100% sure you and I would have gotten along fine and that it wouldn't have taken much time at all for you to recognize me as your "dual."
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DeAnte do you know what type Dr. Gene Ray is? The inventor of the time cube theorem? Videos of him are on youtube.
I don't know what others are reading into my comments, but I mean simply to say that Slacker Mom and I most likely would not have argued over theory/type had we met under different circumstances IRL, in which case, I do not believe it would be difficult for her to view me as being SLI or technically, her socionic "dual."
This does not mean I think we'd automatically love each other nor is it meant to reflect any other mystical view of socionics. My statements mean nothing more than what is stated.
FWIW, if I had to choose a benchmark for SLI, it would be Force My Hand.
I would also like to add that I think it's a misguided assumption that Fe-PoLRs are unfriendly, cold or impersonable. I'd like to bring up Maria (Implied) who most people here type as some kind of IXTp. When I hung out with Maria in New York, I had a blast with her. She was very friendly, rather approachable and the two of us spent a lot of time laughing together and chatting together. Where the concept of Fe-PoLR comes in is that she has very little investment in concerns of upkeeping that atmosphere. She also didn't realize the kinds of vibes she gave off at times (where we joked that she often looked like she was disgusted or confused, which surprised her).
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