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    What do you Deltas think of Steve's Socionix userlist?

    I'm interested in how you evaluate it in terms of Socionics, (not Socionix.)

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    User:Steve - Wikisocion

    ENFp

    Slacker Mom (Fi)
    Kim (Fi)
    JuJu (Ne)
    anndelise (Ne) 6w7 sp/
    Sirena
    Ssmall
    Tereg 9w1 so/sp

    [edit] INFj

    Rick (Fi) sp/
    ****** (Fi) 9w1 sp/so
    Minde (Fi)
    Diana (Fi) 1w9 sp/
    Christy (Ne) 4w5
    Bionicgoat (Ne) sp/sx
    munenori (Ne) 9w1 sp/
    Ritella (Ne) 6w so/sx

    [edit] ISTp

    Jessica (Te)
    Rocky (Te) 6w5
    Cyclops (Te)
    heath (Si)
    iAnnAu (Si)
    Winterpark (Si) sp/sx
    LokiVanguard (Si) 9w8 sp/sx
    [edit]

    ESTj

    Expat (Te) sp/so
    director abbie (Te)
    Smilingeyes (Te)
    Tom (Si) 8w9
    Ezra

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    This is the Socionix celebrity typings list ... Again, I'm interested in how Deltas relate to these individuals, e.g. Dane Cook, Dr. Phil, Elton John, and Ben Affleck...

    ENFp

    Oprah Winfrey - TV Personality -(Fi) 6w7
    Dane Cook -Comedian- (Fi)
    Sarah Silverman -Comedian- (Fi)
    Ashton Kutcher -Actor- (Fi)
    Rikki Lake -TV Host- (Fi)
    Jack Black -Actor- (Fi)
    Carrie Fisher -Actress- (Fi)
    Gavin Degraw -Musician- (Fi)
    Mary-Louise Parker -Actress- (Fi)
    Whoopi Goldberg -Actress- (Fi)
    Cher -Musician/Actress- (Fi)
    Elton John -Musician- (Fi)
    David Gallagher -Actor- (Fi)
    Franklin Delano Roosevelt -Former U.S. President- (Fi)
    Jennifer Love Hewitt -Actress- (Ne)
    John Candy -Comedian/Actor- (Ne)
    Keanu Reeves -Actor- (Ne)
    Drew Barrymore -Actress- (Ne)
    Jerry Seinfeld -Comedian- (Ne)
    Ellen Degeneres -TV Host- (Ne)
    Chris Rock -Comedian- (Ne)
    [edit]

    INFj

    George Lucas -Director- (Fi)
    Gwyneth Paltrow -Actress- (Fi)
    Michael Jackson -Musician- (Fi)
    Jodi Foster -Actress- (Fi)
    Jimmy Carter -Former U.S. President- (Fi)
    Adrien Brody -Actor- (Fi)
    Echkart Tolle -Spiritual Author- (Fi)
    Malcolm Gladwell -Journalist/Writer- (Fi)
    Morgan Freeman -Actor- (Ne) 9w1 sp/
    James Earl Jones -Actor- (Ne)
    Bill Cosby -Comedian- (Ne)
    Maya Angelou -Poet-
    [edit]

    ISTp

    Rudolph Giuilani -Former NYC Mayor- (Te)
    Chesley Sullenberger -Pilot- (Te)
    Ben Affleck -Actor- (Te)
    Eli Manning -Athlete- (Te)
    George H.W. Bush -Former U.S. President- (Te)
    Calvin Coolidge -Former U.S. President- (Te)
    Dwight Eisenhower -Former U.S. President- (Te)
    Harry Truman -Former U.S. President- (Te)
    David Letterman -TV Host- (Te)
    Donald Rumsfeld -Former U.S. Secretary of Defense- (Te)
    John Kerry -Politician- (Te)
    Bob Saget -Comedian- (Te)
    Clint Eastwood -Actor/Director- (Te)
    Brian Williams -TV Anchor- (Si)
    David Caruso -Actor- (Si)
    Lane Smith -Actor- (Si)
    Jim Henson -Director/Producer/Puppeteer- (Si)
    Stephen Colbert -TV Host- (Si)
    Chuck Norris -Actor- (Si)
    Haley Joel Osment -Actor- (Si)
    Phil McGraw -TV Host/Counselor- (Si)
    [edit]

    ESTj

    George W. Bush -Former President- (Te)
    Michael Bloomberg -Businessman/NYC Mayor- (Te)
    John Roberts -U.S. Supreme Court Justice- (Te)
    Matt Damon -Actor- (Te)
    George Washington -Former President/Military Commander- (Te)
    Billy Joel -Musician- (Te)
    Tim Russert -TV Anchor- (Te)
    Matt Lauer -TV Anchor- (Te)
    Diane Sawyer -TV Anchor- (Te)
    Robert DeNiro -Actor- (Te)
    Tony Blair -Former U.K. Prime Minister- (Te)
    Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -Iranian President- (Te)
    John McCain -Politician- (Te)
    Jesse Jackson -Activist- (Te)
    O.J. Simpson -Athlete- (Te)
    Oliver North -Political Commentator/Military Officer- (Te)
    Joseph Ratzinger -Pope Benedict XVI of the Catholic Church- (Te)
    Phil Donahue -TV Host -(Te)
    Marshal Mathers (Eminem) -Musician- (Te)
    Bruce Willis -Actor- (Si)
    John Wayne -Actor- (Si)
    Sylvester Stallone -Actor/Director- (Si)
    Valerie Simpson -Musician- (Si)
    Maury Povich -TV Host- (Si)
    Arnold Schwarzenegger -Actor/Bodybuilder/Politician- (Si)
    Mel Gibson -Actor- (Si)
    Tommy Lee Jones -Actor- (Si)
    Mick Jagger -Musician- (Si)
    Ryan Seacrest -TV/Radio Personality- (Si)
    Judith Scheindlin -Judge/TV Personality- (Si)
    Al Pacino -Actor- (Si)
    Martha Stewart -Businesswoman/TV Host- (Si)

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    Winterpark can suck it.

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    Ashton is EIE.

    He's so blatantly Fe in everything he says and does.

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    I don't really know about the 4 ppl that ou listed, I haven't seen them enough. Elton I don't know too well but I think that it is quite possible that he is a delta NF although he seems to show Fe a lot.

    There are quite a few that I don't agree with. I think Micheal Jackson is a beta NF, same with Opra. Jack black I don't agree with, I'm not sure what type though... Jerry Sienfeld is someone I can definitely relate to, he is a delta NF for sure.

    As for the ST's. David Letterman seems way off. I don't even think he is an ST. Clint Eastwood seems right, same with Robert Denero, except I would put him as an ISTP. Bruce Willis also seems right. Mick Jagger?? That is a really strange one. I would type him as an ENFJ.

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    Gulanzon is ILE.

    He's so blatantly Ne in everything he says and does.
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    It's Binky bitch.
    See not the unsmiling lips and icy eyes,
    And hear not the silence after.
    Look instead as the mime hypnotizes
    And listen to the laughter
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    The forum member type list is okay for the most part; far better than JuJu's. My main disagreements are on Ezra (who I think is Se EP) and rmcnew (ILE > Delta NF). I'd consider a few other alternate typings but these could pass as alternatives.

    The celebrity type list, however, is hit or miss IMO. I think Oprah is most likely an ENFj (even though I wouldn't dismiss ESFj and ENFp entirely). I'd also type Ashton Kutcher ENFj, Jerry Seinfeld INTj, Michael Jackson INFp, Ben Affleck ENFj, Clint Eastwood ISTj, Phil McGraw ISTj, Mel Gibson ESFp, and Mick Jagger Ni EJ. The rest of the typings could pass I guess, even though a certain portion of them seems somewhat off-base.

    Are all of these Steve's typings?
    Last edited by Park; 04-28-2009 at 12:54 PM.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    This is the Socionix celebrity typings list ... Again, I'm interested in how Deltas relate to these individuals, e.g. Dane Cook, Dr. Phil, Elton John, and Ben Affleck...
    You know, asking questions which you already know the answers to in order to get a specific desired reaction can be seen as hypocritical in a way. And it makes your motives transparent.

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    Winterpark can suck it.
    You can suck 3 at a time.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    You know, asking questions which you already know the answers to in order to get a specific desired reaction can be seen as hypocritical in a way.
    If I knew the answers, I wouldn't ask the questions... I'm posting this so other people (who might not know) can see how Socionix types people.

    I view these lists as inconsistent. I mean, I think he's got minde's type right, you know, but yours, WP, and mine wrong, (albeit just by the letters at the end...)

    There are some celebrity typings on here that could've come from Niffweed's random generator... Mick Jagger, Ben Affleck, Sylvester Stallone.

    If this list were a baseball player, it'd have about a .200 avg. (not horrible.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    If I knew the answers, I wouldn't ask the questions...
    Oh, come on, you know exactly what (most) people here think about the types of the specific people you pointed out, and you were fishing for a reaction of disagreement. It's pretty damn obvious.

    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    I'm posting this so other people (who might not know) can see how Socionix types people.
    Socionix = Steve? Steve owns Socionix?

    Also, I'm not sure if that's why you posted it.

    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    I view these lists as inconsistent.
    I agree. I view them the same way, because that's how they are - inconsistent.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Why isn't my username caputalized? Am I or am I not a proper noun?
    My enneagram is also lacking. How recent is this list? Who's Steve?

    I was told George Bush was an SLE. Now I know why I though he was a decent president, even though he made stupid budget mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Oh, come on, you know exactly what (most) people here think about the types of the specific people you pointed out, and you were fishing for a reaction of disagreement.
    I'm not psychic, you know..? I know what I think of the above typings, but I now what, for example, you think of them--or Deltas like Director Abbie or Cyclops.

    Like I said before, I posted the list to show the typings to people who probably haven't seen them.

    To answer your other question, Socionix = Steve, Ashton, Allie, Dolphin, and DeAnte ... Steve is the one these days doing most of the typing, from what I've been told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    I'm not psychic, you know..? I know what I think of the above typings, but I now what, for example, you think of them--or Deltas like Director Abbie or Cyclops.

    Like I said before, I posted the list to show the typings to people who probably haven't seen them.
    Whatever dude. Fine. I get what you're saying, I'm just not sure what is true.

    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    To answer your other question, Socionix = Steve, Ashton, Allie, Dolphin, and DeAnte ... Steve is the one these days doing most of the typing, from what I've been told.
    Okay.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    To answer your other question, Socionix = Steve, Ashton, Allie, Dolphin, and DeAnte ... Steve is the one these days doing most of the typing, from what I've been told.
    lol, "Ashton, can I join ur gang?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    If I knew the answers, I wouldn't ask the questions... I'm posting this so other people (who might not know) can see how Socionix types people.
    Dude, you gotta be less transparent. I don't know how you're going to be a successful credible journalist (wait, I think I just uttered an oxymoron) if you go around misrepresenting people's affiliations in an attempt to discredit their point of view. Is this what they teach you at Journalism school? I don't know how you'll make it to NBC Nightly News doing this. Although there's always Fox News - they seem to have enough of a viewership. I guess there's always some place for everyone.

    You're like fucking Sean Hannity who calls anyone who wants to talk to the Palestinians as fellow human beings as Anti-Semitic, Anti-Israel, and "supporting evil doers". Only in this case, you characterize anyone that has had any sort of intellectual similarity with Ashton or Socionix as being tainted and are on a mission to quarantine them.

    What's most amusing here, is that you are acting out your own issues in the sphere of other people. A total outsider to this situation would look at this and see: "JuJu is accusing other people of being followers, but yet cites specific people who he considers to be credible and having the right information."

    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu
    To answer your other question, Socionix = Steve, Ashton, Allie, Dolphin, and DeAnte ... Steve is the one these days doing most of the typing, from what I've been told.
    Told by whom? What am I, the press secretary for Socionix? Ashton by no means considers socionix to be a group, and certainly does not affiliate himself with my views. It couldn't have been Allie or Dolphin, because, well, that's obvious. DeAnte I haven't really talked to so it couldn't have been him. So who is your source? Who is the "socionix insider" that squealed and conveyed this tantalizing bit of information? Or would it instead be the perfect missing piece to complete the story, and be within the range of "acceptable embellishment" the Journalist can throw in at the last second to make the perfect soft lead?

    At least your story would've been better if you had footage of me getting out of a black limousine wearing sunglasses meeting Ashton for lunch at DiNapoli's restaurant, escorted by a black-suited portly gentleman of 300 pounds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark
    Are all of these Steve's typings?
    The list consists of my own typings along with many typings that were made originally by Sarah or Ashton. Out of those, I included the ones I agree with, stand by, and can defend. I omitted the ones from their typings that I either cannot adequately defend, or disagree with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie
    Why isn't my username caputalized? Am I or am I not a proper noun? My enneagram is also lacking. How recent is this list? Who's Steve?
    lol. Yeah I don't have enough info on most people to accurately type their Enneagram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Am I or am I not a proper noun?
    Your name is a proper noun. I'm afraid you're more of a tangible object.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    At least your story would've been better if you had footage of me getting out of a black limousine wearing sunglasses meeting Ashton for lunch at DiNapoli's restaurant, escorted by a black-suited portly gentleman of 300 pounds.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    This list blows, gimme a new one. Wtf's a 9w8?

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    Tommy Lee Jones has a super gamma vibe. I'd put him as an LIE (ENTj)

    He'd has never given off a very delta vibe, even in photo shoots and movies, his face always screams Gamma to me.



    Meryl gives me a Delta vibe. A lot of people put her as an Alpha social, but I don't know..... she's gets a nervous laugh in all her interviews, and her body language when she's embarassed says SLI to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LifeIsDucky View Post
    Tommy Lee Jones has a super gamma vibe. I'd put him as an LIE (ENTj)

    He'd has never given off a very delta vibe, even in photo shoots and movies, his face always screams Gamma to me.

    Meryl gives me a Delta vibe. A lot of people put her as an Alpha social, but I don't know..... she's gets a nervous laugh in all her interviews, and her body language when she's embarassed says SLI to me.
    I always related to Meryl, yet I don't' think she is IEE.. I have heard her typed SLI, and this could be. They say you identify with your Dual that way, and even mistype yourself as them (I have not done that myself, but, as different as my SLI husband and I are, we do seem the same a lot). So, yes, she could be SLI...
    "A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
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    Quote Originally Posted by LifeIsDucky View Post
    Tommy Lee Jones has a super gamma vibe. I'd put him as an LIE (ENTj)

    He'd has never given off a very delta vibe, even in photo shoots and movies, his face always screams Gamma to me.

    Meryl gives me a Delta vibe. A lot of people put her as an Alpha social, but I don't know..... she's gets a nervous laugh in all her interviews, and her body language when she's embarassed says SLI to me.


    I always related to Meryl, yet I don't' think she is IEE.. I have heard her typed SLI, and this could be. They say you identify with your Dual that way, and even mistype yourself as them (I have not done that myself, but, as different as my SLI husband and I are, we do seem the same a lot). So, yes, she could be SLI...

    Nice to meet another SLI, Ducky! I like what you wrote in your profile: "all stereotypes about us are pretty true. We are the "justice league of nowhere." I have moral opinions, but rarely act on them. I keep to myself, walk around in nature, enjoy my own company." LOL. I had not heard that description but it fits. Early on, in the first hour of the first meeting with my SLI who, unbeknownst to me, was to become my husband (I knew him well as a longtime friend I wrote to), I called him out for not acting on his moral beliefs. Basically he did not set boundaries with his adult daughter and then blamed her for the troubles that followed, and I told him it was his own fault, for not acting on his beliefs in the first place.. and I was surprised to see he did not mind my saying this, at all. He seemed to actually appreciate it...
    "A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
    ........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........


    "Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
    by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
    attitude acceptable to today's standards."
    - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"

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