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    Seriously, what is his type? If there's a consensus, I'd like to know it. If not, this is the perfect time to discuss.

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    I think it's difficult to type someone who is that much of a nut case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    He's some Si/Ne-valuing type. A Delta NF or any of the Alphas (except ESE).
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    He's ILE. I think the Ne + Ti is obvious. And ILE > LII because of his completely shit Fi.
    But, no worries ILEs, he is an anomaly to your general coolness.
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    I think he is ILE but he kinda looks like an LII. He doesn't seem particularly healthy at the moment though, at the extreme risk of stating obvious, heh..

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    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    he always brings up his personal sentiments ("I don't like this", "how could you do this to me", etc.) when arguing something, and he seems to use this as his "reason". he tries to appeal to feelings, not logic.
    I agree completely. I have no idea why anyone would think he's ILE when he's the single most irrational person I've ever encountered. Even when he tries to make some kind of logical structure (alchemical socionics) when anyone tries to deconstruct the logical foundations he gets completely flustered and angry. All that is there is essentially obvious, he's completely incapable of logical justification, of constructing an argument.
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    Actually as sad as it is, I think he could easily be some kind of Beta NF...like the most pathetic EIE to ever live...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    His use of Ti and Te is better?
    okay. let me rephrase that. I think he royally sucks at all elements. However, his focus is on Ti + Ne. And, whenever I, or the other Deltas, harp on him for Fi related issues, he seems no to understand why it's at all important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mn0good View Post
    I agree completely. I have no idea why anyone would think he's ILE when he's the single most irrational person I've ever encountered. Even when he tries to make some kind of logical structure (alchemical socionics) when anyone tries to deconstruct the logical foundations he gets completely flustered and angry. All that is there is essentially obvious, he's completely incapable of logical justification, of constructing an argument.
    look. I don't think that is Ti, as much as most people here would like to believe so. I think logical reasoning is more likely to be related to intelligence and experience in logical reasoning.
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    He looks kind of like Dave from Pure Pwnage.

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    That's his photo, dj, for real?

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    I think his is a given, I also think that he has a polr and a hidden agenda.
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    o_O lol that's funny, because Dave (Pro At Cooking guy, right?) seems like a clear LSI to me.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I'm pretty sure he's either Ti INTj or Ti ENTp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Actually as sad as it is, I think he could easily be some kind of Beta NF...like the most pathetic EIE to ever live...
    I agree with this. Not that I have a strong opinion, but the best argument I've seen was for EIE... this was during his "black magic" phase.



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    Unfortunately, I think he's an EXFp.

    Like glam says, he uses personal sentiments to justify or 'argue' his actions/beliefs. He also relies on the emotional appeals of his own as well as others to prevent him from ever having to provide any real reasoning. He is also more than willing to try to force others into 'abiding by' his whacked sense of ethics.

    Ethical people don't always agree with each other.
    Fi people won't always agree with other Fi.
    Fe won't always agree with Fe.

    I actually think that if subtypes exist, then he could very well be an Fi subtype.

    He enjoys a sense of power and control over others.
    He seemed to perceive himself as a benevolent savior of the forum when he purchased it. And even attempted to encourage that perception. And often played that card when things didn't go the way he wanted them to go.

    And, when things didn't go the way he wanted them to go AND the savior card wasn't working for him, then he played the victim card....poor persecuted him.

    And if that didn't work, he played the power card.

    Even when he talked about his "gayness" it wasn't so much about liking men...as it was liking men that play the feminine roles, have feminine appearances, and played the submissive role to him. This is particularly interesting considering some of his childhood experiences in which he felt dominated and controlled by an adult male. (he's mentioned this publicly on the forum, so it's not like i'm bringing up anything privately discussed)

    The guy has a lot of issues to deal with...issues he's avoiding, and issues he's refusing to acknowledge. These kinds of things take their toll, and can make a person become more and more erratic. It's my belief that even his erraticness follows that of an EXFp under stress.

    When he was less stressed, he seemed comfortable with Ne.
    The more stressed he became, the more erratic he became, the more Se-ish behavior came out.
    But still...his own personal Fi was there, guiding him all the while.


    Sometimes people assume that if a person is dealing with theoretical stuff, that it's a sign of Ti. But the person of topic didn't show any signs of strong Ti. In fact, he'd avoid it as best as he could, even going on the attack and/or tossing in red herrings when pressured to provide actual Ti.

    Yes, he has a system that he built and set up into a visual mapping. But that doesn't mean that he utilized Ti to get that mapping. It's my belief that he more likely used his Ne+Fi to get the original connections he made, and then worked hard on putting it into a more Si+Te format. And because of this, that made it even more difficult for him to accept Ti criticisms and/or to provide any kind of actual Ti connections.

    So, basically, as much as I really....REALLY..don't like the guy, I still think he's NeFi who was really fucked up as a child, and has a ways to go to overcome it.

    (I admit that there is a part of me that sees him as a possible SeFi or FiSe, but that's when I know that my biases are showing through and I have to remind myself that the only time he showed Se was when stressed out. And while he became stressed out more and more easily...he hadn't always been so. When calm, he showed Delta values over alpha/gamma. And even when playing the savior/victim cards, it was usually done in a stressed out Deltan EP way.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    I think you're right that his comes out during stress... is this consistent with role function use I wonder? though maybe his health should be taken into account.
    A number of NeFi have talked about what happens when they "flip the switch". There are actually two switches. One is an anger/frustrated based one, another is a silly one. The more stressed out the NeFi, the more likely it'll be anger/frustrated based.
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    I still think he's IEE, as much as I don't want to claim him. That's mainly from before he went 100% nuts. He was only about 75% back in those days and therefore probably a bit easier to type.

    I could be convinced otherwise. But he's a nutcase and that clouds everything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom View Post
    That's mainly from before he went 100% nuts. He was only about 75% back in those days
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    Quote Originally Posted by mn0good View Post
    I agree completely. I have no idea why anyone would think he's ILE when he's the single most irrational person I've ever encountered. Even when he tries to make some kind of logical structure (alchemical socionics) when anyone tries to deconstruct the logical foundations he gets completely flustered and angry. All that is there is essentially obvious, he's completely incapable of logical justification, of constructing an argument.
    Eh, guess how often I encounter Alpha-NT's being that way, when they failure is factual understanding opposed to being logically sound. McNewb's theories are logically sound, that's why he's so convinced about them. They just don't make any sense when applied to reality.

    Ti-PoLR, wouldn't even bother to try to construct a theory like that. They would consider it to be the lamest and the most boring thing ever to even try to do. And then post it in public so everyone can publicly critize the persons PoLR, and vehemently continue doing it, even after all the attacks at their PoLR? Definetly not Ti-PoLR.
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    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by look.to.the.sky View Post
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    Carla is everyone's supervisor.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Carla can supervise me any day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    Carla can supervise me any day
    If she can figure out how.



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    I'm sure I can arrange something.

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    ...what? Am I not allowed to use Ne?

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    I'd say Reuben McNew is an ENTp
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    handcuffs are , I think.
    wait :grin: how do you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    because I like them?
    my kind of girl
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    President Grant says "hi glam."


    "His feeling that this world is not his Fatherland, and that it does not represent his proper condition, so to speak—his feeling that, basically, he 'comes from afar'—will remain a fundamental element which will not give rise to mystical escapism and spiritual weakness, but rather will enable him to minimise, to relativise, to refer to higher concepts of measure and limit, all that can seem important and definitive to others, starting with death itself, and will confer on him calm force and breadth of vision." — Julius Evola

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    Curse my vivid visual imagination.

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    -PoLR HERO:


    maybe LSE-Te.

    "His feeling that this world is not his Fatherland, and that it does not represent his proper condition, so to speak—his feeling that, basically, he 'comes from afar'—will remain a fundamental element which will not give rise to mystical escapism and spiritual weakness, but rather will enable him to minimise, to relativise, to refer to higher concepts of measure and limit, all that can seem important and definitive to others, starting with death itself, and will confer on him calm force and breadth of vision." — Julius Evola

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    Are you trying to be disrespectful?

    "His feeling that this world is not his Fatherland, and that it does not represent his proper condition, so to speak—his feeling that, basically, he 'comes from afar'—will remain a fundamental element which will not give rise to mystical escapism and spiritual weakness, but rather will enable him to minimise, to relativise, to refer to higher concepts of measure and limit, all that can seem important and definitive to others, starting with death itself, and will confer on him calm force and breadth of vision." — Julius Evola

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    "Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated....glam-0."


    "His feeling that this world is not his Fatherland, and that it does not represent his proper condition, so to speak—his feeling that, basically, he 'comes from afar'—will remain a fundamental element which will not give rise to mystical escapism and spiritual weakness, but rather will enable him to minimise, to relativise, to refer to higher concepts of measure and limit, all that can seem important and definitive to others, starting with death itself, and will confer on him calm force and breadth of vision." — Julius Evola

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    handcuffs are , I think.
    Handcuffs are things, actually. , , , , , , , and . Even their given purpose is something that could appeal to at least five different elements.



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    I think it's obvious NcMewto is Ne.

    However, I've always had this perception of Delta NFs as saintly; essentially 'good' people. With MN's bastard coward tactics, I just don't think it possible that he is an EII or IEE.

    This is basically the only reason I'm in agreement with Alpha NT. Also, I think his social skills are bit too shit for him to be Delta NF.
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    does anyone else feel like it's a bit fucked to be doing a "type Mcnew" thread where we all talk about how disturbed and unhealthy he is right after he gets banned from the forum he used to run and can't in any way respond to what's being said? probably just me, the person who HAS to save drowning bugs from the pool... ugh. I know if he could say something, it would most likely be his normal dog and pony show shit, but still... there's just something about this that makes me feel kind of sick and bummed out.

    (not that I'm any sort of saint mind you)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat View Post
    does anyone else feel like it's a bit fucked to be doing a "type Mcnew" thread where we all talk about how disturbed and unhealthy he is right after he gets banned from the forum he used to run and can't in any way respond to what's being said? probably just me, the person who HAS to save drowning bugs from the pool... ugh. I know if he could say something, it would most likely be his normal dog and pony show shit, but still... there's just something about this that makes me feel kind of sick and bummed out.

    (not that I'm any sort of saint mind you)
    feel free to delete my post if that would help relieve some of the sickness and bummedness

    last i read of his writings though, this thread would be labeled as 'just part of the plan' of his
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