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    "If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann

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    ILI?
    EII; E6(w5)

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    SEI would be my guess.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I'm pretty sure that isn't an LSE.

    Anyone who manages to make VI reliable deserves a Nobel prize. I'm certain that it's possible, but I'm also sure that it's almost impossible.



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    Honestly, that could be anything.

    Fe/Ti would be my guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Honestly, that could be anything.

    Fe/Ti would be my guess.
    just wondering, is there anyway you could explain to me what makes you think Fe/Ti?
    Last edited by pluie; 04-23-2009 at 01:13 PM.
    "If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann

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    IEI is my guess, but I don't have a decent reasoning why. It might be the face structure and or sexiness. Though I haven't typed people enough.

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    IEI

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    I'll agree with IEI as a probable type.

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    We're in the same Quadra, that's for sure. <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluie View Post
    just wondering, is there anyway you could explain to me what makes you think Fe/Ti?
    Not seriously.

    There's just a kind of playfulness/cheekiness I don't see in Te/Fi types.

    Also, if you are Beta > Gamma that would make sense based on the intensity of your look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    IEI is my guess, but I don't have a decent reasoning why. It might be the face structure and or sexiness. Though I haven't typed people enough.
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahah ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah ahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaahahah

    i apologize for the obnoxious-ness
    but i just thought that was really funny

    i actually laughed quite a bit in real life


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirena View Post
    We're in the same Quadra, that's for sure. <3


    duhhhh
    "If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann

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    I would say SEI. Seems I'm the only one who thinks so though.
    maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
    maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
    go ask the frog what the scorpion knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    I would say SEI. Seems I'm the only one who thinks so though.
    yeh... pretty sure i'm not. but what makes you say that?

    sirena and i have had some pretty lengthy conversations... i'm pretty positive we're in the same quadra, whatever that may be.
    "If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluie View Post
    yeh... pretty sure i'm not. but what makes you say that?

    sirena and i have had some pretty lengthy conversations... i'm pretty positive we're in the same quadra, whatever that may be.
    IMO sirena is IEE. I mean, I really, highly doubt she's Beta NF. You both seem very clearly Ne/Si to me.
    maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
    maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
    go ask the frog what the scorpion knows

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    I think you're ENFp
    INTp

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    @Pluie:

    Do you like shocks of hard, icy realities that wake you from the day by day drone of life?

    Or do you more prefer whimisical associations, odd or unlikely scenarios, and alternate/new ways of doing the same thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    @Pluie:

    Do you like shocks of hard, icy realities that wake you from the day by day drone of life?

    Or do you more prefer whimisical associations, odd or unlikely scenarios, and alternate/new ways of doing the same thing?
    lol.
    "drone of life"?

    i'd say both, but only because i'm trying to learn to accept realities. i'm not so good at the whole "it is what it is just because that's the way it is" thing. ya know--reality. it's not my strong point. but i think it makes me stronger as a person to learn to accept/understand it.

    but unlikely scenarios and all that... fun fun fun fun
    "If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann

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    Default enfp, you say?

    please! convince me i'm IEE! that would make me happy if i was

    thought i was for a very long time. *sigh*
    "If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann

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    could be INFp, but the last two pictures feel ENFj to me
    Hi! I'm an ENFP. :-)

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    yeah ya might be IEE. That or SEI methinks
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    yeah ya might be IEE. That or SEI methinks
    those are two pretty different types
    dontcha think
    "If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann

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    ISFp subtype
    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluie View Post
    those are two pretty different types
    dontcha think
    True. Sometimes its hard to tell, cuz im just seeing random bits of info on you.
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    not sensing type that's for sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jewels View Post
    could be INFp, but the last two pictures feel ENFj to me
    thats what i like tah HEAR
    "If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    IMO sirena is IEE. I mean, I really, highly doubt she's Beta NF. You both seem very clearly Ne/Si to me.
    THANK YOU. I totally agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    THANK YOU. I totally agree.
    you don't know me

    thats meant to be stated in a joking way

    but i'm serious too...

    :wink:yeah? yeah?
    "If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann

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    i would also guess alpha or delta quadra. reminds me of a very good friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath View Post
    i would also guess alpha or delta quadra. reminds me of a very good friend.
    what about me reminds you of them?
    what have i said or done? or is it just the pictures?
    "If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluie View Post
    you don't know me

    thats meant to be stated in a joking way

    but i'm serious too...

    :wink:yeah? yeah?
    Quote Originally Posted by pluie View Post
    what about me reminds you of them?
    what have i said or done? or is it just the pictures?
    People underestimate how much they reveal about themselves, and I don't really get why this is. Have you never felt what it's like to judge someone from afar and to be absolutely correct about it? I always hear them say, “you don't know me”, “you don't get me.” You don't need to be known to be Known Of. You're the way you laugh when you're nervous, and that strategy you've got to avoid confronting anything. You've got this rhythm in your words that remind me of something else—like the same book printed under a different cover tells the same story to a different audience. You're That Girl who doesn't want to be figured out, who fails to realize that even enigma is a brand. Yeah, even a puzzle can be mass-produced. But She doesn't know, because they never do. She's The Girl who thinks that stuttering about a foreign city is an intuitive concept—like sensing is for classifying those who cannot be deep or reflective. And sometimes She varies. Sometimes She's vain but sometimes she's hiding. But it doesn't matter. You're the same person no matter what act you put on—no matter how fucked up you think you are, no matter what the world has shaped you to be. You've still got a gut, and your gut won't lie. Your interest always peaks when someone tells you what they think of you. Your fingers still fail to stop you from replying to every opinion carelessly tossed at you. Yeah, and that way you've got of stubbornly campaigning the identity you think belongs to you—I've seen it before. And you're one of those that think they can't be seen. You think that if you act different—you think that playing a role, conforming to external expectations like the mirror we never wanted—you think that will keep you beneath the surface. You think that a silhouette can't reveal the body to which it belongs? Even if a figure changes shape, it's got a behavior and a pulse that marks its name. Put a tablecloth over an elephant and it still looks and sounds like an elephant. It doesn't matter how different you act here or there or wherever you claim to be genuine. Putting on a mask doesn't make you look like the creature you're disguised to be, it just looks like You With A Mask On. Behavior is only a shallow layer. To change behavior isn't anything substantial, just a seemingly different way for you to do the same goddamn things. Maybe if you weren't looking at their outermost layer, you'd ease into that state where you don't have to look at all—where every current beneath the ocean is a glaring red light and the strength and direction's been seared into your memory without permission. And then no matter how mighty or how flat the waves appear to be, you still feel the pull of the Undercurrent without having to have felt it at all. Yeah, She's nothing new. Feet pacing the same direction under the same pace with different shoes on. You won't remember being Her before, but your environment will. Some others will, I will, and maybe the She before You will too.
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    p, i'll cut off my right hand if you turn out to be anything but a Beta NF. lol @ SEI and IEE suggestions! i've thought IEE was pretty laughable for you for a long time now, even before i realized how ridiculous it was for me. but you know all this. and i know you know your type.
    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    IMO sirena is IEE. I mean, I really, highly doubt she's Beta NF. You both seem very clearly Ne/Si to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    THANK YOU. I totally agree.
    OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!! *shock* *sigh*

    fwiw, both pluie and i have been pretty invested in actually trying to justify our original IEE typings. like juju and some others at one point. i say this bc inevitably, some of you (not referring to allie or scarlett), are thinking we're in some sort of quest to define ourselves as "cool betas" or some stupid shit like that, which i just find absolutely laughable. trust me, things would've been a lot easier for both of us had we turned out to be IEEs afterall. we just ain't. it is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    People underestimate how much they reveal about themselves, and I don't really get why this is. Have you never felt what it's like to judge someone from afar and to be absolutely correct about it? I always hear them say, “you don't know me”, “you don't get me.” You don't need to be known to be Known Of. You're the way you laugh when you're nervous, and that strategy you've got to avoid confronting anything. You've got this rhythm in your words that remind me of something else—like the same book printed under a different cover tells the same story to a different audience. You're That Girl who doesn't want to be figured out, who fails to realize that even enigma is a brand. Yeah, even a puzzle can be mass-produced. But She doesn't know, because they never do. She's The Girl who thinks that stuttering about a foreign city is an intuitive concept—like sensing is for classifying those who cannot be deep or reflective. And sometimes She varies. Sometimes She's vain but sometimes she's hiding. But it doesn't matter. You're the same person no matter what act you put on—no matter how fucked up you think you are, no matter what the world has shaped you to be. You've still got a gut, and your gut won't lie. Your interest always peaks when someone tells you what they think of you. Your fingers still fail to stop you from replying to every opinion carelessly tossed at you. Yeah, and that way you've got of stubbornly campaigning the identity you think belongs to you—I've seen it before. And you're one of those that think they can't be seen. You think that if you act different—you think that playing a role, conforming to external expectations like the mirror we never wanted—you think that will keep you beneath the surface. You think that a silhouette can't reveal the body to which it belongs? Even if a figure changes shape, it's got a behavior and a pulse that marks its name. Put a tablecloth over an elephant and it still looks and sounds like an elephant. It doesn't matter how different you act here or there or wherever you claim to be genuine. Putting on a mask doesn't make you look like the creature you're disguised to be, it just looks like You With A Mask On. Behavior is only a shallow layer. To change behavior isn't anything substantial, just a seemingly different way for you to do the same goddamn things. Maybe if you weren't looking at their outermost layer, you'd ease into that state where you don't have to look at all—where every current beneath the ocean is a glaring red light and the strength and direction's been seared into your memory without permission. And then no matter how mighty or how flat the waves appear to be, you still feel the pull of the Undercurrent without having to have felt it at all. Yeah, She's nothing new. Feet pacing the same direction under the same pace with different shoes on. You won't remember being Her before, but your environment will. Some others will, I will, and maybe the She before You will too.
    Wow, this was a really good post, very poetic in a way. I love it.

    Anyway, I can't put it in a better way -- Sirena and pluie... I have recognized Beta NFs, especially IEIs, in seconds because of the feeling of je ne sais quoi they give me that reminds me of myself. And no, it's not like every IEI or EIE I meet has to be a carbon copy, but they just have to have that certain vibe that is ineffable. Identicals are usually the easiest types to recognize online, imo.

    You both are foreign to me, completely. I actually get a little turned off by what appears to me to clearly be Delta NFs parading around in Beta 'masks' as Allie put it. It just doesn't work. I can't shake this feeling, it has nothing to do with either of you, of course I don't know either of you well... but until it goes away, I will keep believing you both are Deltas... not even Alphas, but Deltas.

    No, no ETA: I totally retract my Delta statement after looking back upon pluie's photos and really focusing upon them ... SEI. And if you feel so similar to her, than I would suggest SEI for Sirena as well. I think that would make more sense to be confused between Alpha/Beta than two opposing quadras.


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    I think the fairly recent example of DeAnte and Sirena following each other round the forum with Sirena playing up and DeAnte laying down the authority as part of what was fun for the both of them was a good example of Beta ST-Beta NF flirtation interaction.

    It would not have appealed to an Alpha or a Delta, certainly not for the sustained length of time.

    I don't know much about Pluie, but Beta NF isn't the worst typing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    People underestimate how much they reveal about themselves, and I don't really get why this is. Have you never felt what it's like to judge someone from afar and to be absolutely correct about it? I always hear them say, “you don't know me”, “you don't get me.” You don't need to be known to be Known Of. You're the way you laugh when you're nervous, and that strategy you've got to avoid confronting anything. You've got this rhythm in your words that remind me of something else—like the same book printed under a different cover tells the same story to a different audience. You're That Girl who doesn't want to be figured out, who fails to realize that even enigma is a brand. Yeah, even a puzzle can be mass-produced. But She doesn't know, because they never do. She's The Girl who thinks that stuttering about a foreign city is an intuitive concept—like sensing is for classifying those who cannot be deep or reflective. And sometimes She varies. Sometimes She's vain but sometimes she's hiding. But it doesn't matter. You're the same person no matter what act you put on—no matter how fucked up you think you are, no matter what the world has shaped you to be. You've still got a gut, and your gut won't lie. Your interest always peaks when someone tells you what they think of you. Your fingers still fail to stop you from replying to every opinion carelessly tossed at you. Yeah, and that way you've got of stubbornly campaigning the identity you think belongs to you—I've seen it before. And you're one of those that think they can't be seen. You think that if you act different—you think that playing a role, conforming to external expectations like the mirror we never wanted—you think that will keep you beneath the surface. You think that a silhouette can't reveal the body to which it belongs? Even if a figure changes shape, it's got a behavior and a pulse that marks its name. Put a tablecloth over an elephant and it still looks and sounds like an elephant. It doesn't matter how different you act here or there or wherever you claim to be genuine. Putting on a mask doesn't make you look like the creature you're disguised to be, it just looks like You With A Mask On. Behavior is only a shallow layer. To change behavior isn't anything substantial, just a seemingly different way for you to do the same goddamn things. Maybe if you weren't looking at their outermost layer, you'd ease into that state where you don't have to look at all—where every current beneath the ocean is a glaring red light and the strength and direction's been seared into your memory without permission. And then no matter how mighty or how flat the waves appear to be, you still feel the pull of the Undercurrent without having to have felt it at all. Yeah, She's nothing new. Feet pacing the same direction under the same pace with different shoes on. You won't remember being Her before, but your environment will. Some others will, I will, and maybe the She before You will too.
    I wonder if you realize how presumptuous you are coming off by making these assumptions. Of course, you are the one being true to yourself here and we're the uncool kids following the cool kids around to join their clicke! Give me a fucking break, Allie. I'd appreciate it if you didn't try too hard to read into my motivations because you're obviously not very good at it. You might hurt yourself, you know. I guess it makes you feel good to think you've got others all figured out. You think maybe you're projecting here? (rhetorical, considering I already know what your answer would be) You know, there's a difference between stating your opinion about something and making assumptions as to the reasons for someone's actions. It couldn't be that pluie and I (though I shouldn't include myself in this anymore, considering I'm no longer questioning my type) are genuinely interested in evaluating our self-typings, just like about 99.9% of the people on here (including yourself)! No. It must be a desperate search to become something other than what we are! Or an elephant with a tablecloth or whatever your analogy was. Pretty patronizing.



    Very poetic indeed, though!
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    Wow, this was a really good post, very poetic in a way. I love it.

    Anyway, I can't put it in a better way -- Sirena and pluie... I have recognized Beta NFs, especially IEIs, in seconds because of the feeling of je ne sais quoi they give me that reminds me of myself. And no, it's not like every IEI or EIE I meet has to be a carbon copy, but they just have to have that certain vibe that is ineffable. Identicals are usually the easiest types to recognize online, imo.

    You both are foreign to me, completely. I actually get a little turned off by what appears to me to clearly be Delta NFs parading around in Beta 'masks' as Allie put it. It just doesn't work. I can't shake this feeling, it has nothing to do with either of you, of course I don't know either of you well... but until it goes away, I will keep believing you both are Deltas... not even Alphas, but Deltas.

    No, no ETA: I totally retract my Delta statement after looking back upon pluie's photos and really focusing upon them ... SEI. And if you feel so similar to her, than I would suggest SEI for Sirena as well. I think that would make more sense to be confused between Alpha/Beta than two opposing quadras.
    Have you considered the possibility that your "vibe" might not always be right? Maybe you should because, well, you're wrong. You've recognized other Beta NFs...okayyyyyyyy. Maybe you've failed to recognize some?

    And seriously, the whole overblown concept of everyone running around wanting to be Beta and acting this way or another to achieve it (wearing "masks", as you put it) is so old and tired. Get off your cloud and realize once and for all that you're not that damn special. All most people are trying to do here is find their true types, at least I know I am, not trying to run for Betahood. I am what I am and that's that. And I am a Beta, not because I want to be one, but because I am one. So please, stop acting like the snobby rich kid from the country club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    Yes, I was kind of amazed about the way it was written, too! Poetic.


    I understand exactly what you mean by feeling "something" when it comes to IEIs, and I even agree there is a bit of a different "vibe" when it comes to Sirena and pluie, but I'm not confident enough to say it's because they are not beta NFs. I can think of other reasons. (By contrast, other "new" IEIs, like octopuslove and akra, feel very familiar.)

    I am a bit afraid to walk into this discussion, as I don't have anything other than a vibe to go by, but Sirena's explanation - that she tried hard to prove herself an IEE before (and now seemingly is trying hard to prove herself an IEI) COULD be a reason we feel something's off? So, here's a question for the beta NFs: do you have the same vibe something's "off" when it comes to all Beta NFs previously selftyping IEEs?? I can put my head on the block, if you want... ScarlettLux, could it be that you questionned my type, too, when I first changed? I think you might have said to me as well, that I was not Beta NF? (I might remember wrong) So then, could it be, that we are just slow in updating our brains? That we are so used to thinking "IEE" when reading Sirenas posts, that we think "not Beta" because we identified that very vibe with something other than ourselves? (Not sure this made sense.... ) I'm asking purely to check if and how "previous wrong typings" influences the opinions of the forum.


    SEI in feel, when reading their posts, I could see that. However, both pluie and sirena swear they are intuitive.
    Again...not trying to prove this! (re: part in bold).

    I'd be interested to hear some of these other questions answered though. And I think you raise some interesting possibilities. FWIW, no one questioned my IEI typing (my original self-typing and across the board type suggestion when I first joined) until I changed it back from IEE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirena View Post
    Of course, you are the one being true to yourself here and we're the uncool kids following the cool kids around to join their clicke!
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirena View Post
    It must be a desperate search to become something other than what we are!
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirena View Post
    And seriously, the whole overblown concept of everyone running around wanting to be Beta and acting this way or another to achieve it (wearing "masks", as you put it) is so old and tired.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirena View Post
    Get off your cloud and realize once and for all that you're not that damn special.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirena View Post
    All most people are trying to do here is find their true types, at least I know I am, not trying to run for Betahood.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirena View Post
    So please, stop acting like the snobby rich kid from the country club.
    Uh, the fact that you even interpreted it like this is kind of my point. No one was doing that. ScarlettLux was speaking from an entirely intertype relations perspective: “Identicals are usually the easiest types to recognize online, imo.” And I just think that you come across as blatantly Ne/Si. Neither of us characterized it, for Christ's sake. No one said you were too “uncool” to be Beta. God, where did you get that from? That isn't something Socionics related, so please chill out. I don't consider “IEE” to be an offense… it's just a typing. Yet you're the one who treats it as if you've just been insulted. Look, if you honestly feel like you're being “excluded” because other Betas don't identify with you, then you really need to grow up. Beta isn't a clique, it's a classification that means you value Se, Ni, Fe, & Ti. When I say, “you're not Beta,” it means that I don't see you as valuing those elements.

    It's weird that you'd rant on and on about Beta as not being cool or some sort of club, etc. when no one had said anything like that to begin with. Stop projecting a social order onto this. No one meant it that way, and the fact that you see it as such is pretty much a sign that you're typing yourself Beta for the wrong reasons.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sirena View Post
    FWIW, no one questioned my IEI typing (my original self-typing and across the board type suggestion when I first joined) until I changed it back from IEE.
    This is quite an exaggeration.
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    Thanks for addressing that point, however, it seems like you understood mine. It had nothing to do with taking offense to a supposed claim that I was too uncool for Beta, lol. Where did you get that from? I realize you never said or implied that. Your entire post was about how some people (pluie and I) try to pretend they're something they are not and seek out to prove it, not realizing that others (you) can see right through the facade. Right? THAT is what pissed me off. K?

    And don't try to counterattack by saying you weren't referring to us when you wrote that because you were specifically addressing pluie's statement regarding her knowing herself better than you, which she wrote in response to your basically implying that she sees herself inaccurately. And you included me in your assessment as well, so here we are.

    Oh and thanks for the advice to chill, but no, thanks; I'm good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    This is quite an exaggeration.
    Really? Please, enlighten me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirena View Post
    Thanks for addressing that point, however, it seems like you understood mine. It had nothing to do with taking offense to a supposed claim that I was too uncool for Beta, lol. Where did you get that from? I realize you never said or implied that. Your entire post was about how some people (pluie and I) try to pretend they're something they are not and seek out to prove it, not realizing that others (you) can see right through the facade. Right? THAT is what pissed me off. K?

    And don't try to counterattack by saying you weren't referring to us when you wrote that because you were specifically addressing pluie's statement regarding her knowing herself better than you, which she wrote in response to your basically implying that she sees herself inaccurately. And you included me in your assessment as well, so here we are.

    Oh and thanks for the advice to chill, but no, thanks; I'm good.
    Eh. No offense, but you didn't understand a word of that post—and I'm not interested enough to continue this.

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    Really? Please, enlighten me!
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